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Okay, I said I'd do it, so here it is. Camp Rock's Meaghan Jette Martin as Sailor Moon:

That looks horrible and freaky.

Super Aurora wrote:That looks horrible and freaky.

Gee, thanks Super Aurora. You know how much I value your opinion too.

slave2moonlight wrote:

Super Aurora wrote:That looks horrible and freaky.

Gee, thanks Super Aurora. You know how much I value your opinion too.

I don't think he means your work is horrible, just that the actress as Sailor Moon looks weird.. which I agree... yeesh!

I think she's the perfect girl for a part. Much better than a Japanese actress in a blonde wig like they used in Japan.

slave2moonlight wrote:I think she's the perfect girl for a part. Much better than a Japanese actress in a blonde wig like they used in Japan.

Well Sailor Moon is a Japanese girl with blond hair isn't she?

Anyways, if they were to westernize the series with American girls in the leads, I beg of them not to use anybody with ties to the Disney channel. There are plenty of teen girls out there who can actually act and aren't just chosen for products based on their ability to sell merchandise to little girls!

slave2moonlight wrote:

Super Aurora wrote:That looks horrible and freaky.

Gee, thanks Super Aurora. You know how much I value your opinion too.

Oh please. Learn to take a little criticism. lol

Super Aurora wrote:

slave2moonlight wrote: Gee, thanks Super Aurora. You know how much I value your opinion too.

Oh please. Learn to take a little criticism. lol

I learned the nature of criticism in art school. The place was run by a woman who drew nothing but male privates growing from inanimate objects, and she didn't even draw it well, but she was great about critiquing others.

You do have talent, so don't think I am dogging that portion. But, that is absolutely horrid! That girl is much too cheesy and bubble gum.

I as a moonie, and disgusted by that. If they were to "americanize" it, I would prefer an unknown. Or someone who isn't so mainstream. Like Ashley Greene from Twilight, who played Alice. She would be a good choice, a classic beauty, not cheesy or bubbly. That girl, and Kristen Storms look too, whats the word, like an ABC family movie. Nothing that would actually look good, or worth while.

I hope, that Naoko never allows an american Sailor Moon movie!

Widdi wrote:

slave2moonlight wrote:I think she's the perfect girl for a part. Much better than a Japanese actress in a blonde wig like they used in Japan.

Well Sailor Moon is a Japanese girl with blond hair isn't she?

Anyways, if they were to westernize the series with American girls in the leads, I beg of them not to use anybody with ties to the Disney channel. There are plenty of teen girls out there who can actually act and aren't just chosen for products based on their ability to sell merchandise to little girls!

Amen honey!

The Little Merboy wrote:You do have talent, so don't think I am dogging that portion. But, that is absolutely horrid! That girl is much too cheesy and bubble gum.

I as a moonie, and disgusted by that. If they were to "americanize" it, I would prefer an unknown. Or someone who isn't so mainstream. Like Ashley Greene from Twilight, who played Alice. She would be a good choice, a classic beauty, not cheesy or bubbly. That girl, and Kristen Storms look too, whats the word, like an ABC family movie. Nothing that would actually look good, or worth while.

I hope, that Naoko never allows an american Sailor Moon movie!

You've got to be kidding? Ashley Greene from Twilight? Meaghan looks a thousand times more like Sailor Moon, and how is someone from "Twilight" of all things less "mainstream" and "known" than someone who has only had one semi-important role in a film herself as the badgirl from a TV movie?

Also, seriously, Sailor Moon was nothing if not bubblegum and cheesy! The character at least, if not the whole show in general. Not saying a film shouldn't be done in a serious tone, but the character is totally a teenie-bopper Disney Channel type girl.

And, I'm sorry, but a Japanese girl in a blonde wig just looks ridiculous.

I think both Meaghan and Ashley Greene don't fit the bill Honestly I don't think I'd want to see a Sailor Moon live action movie, I'd rather see a re-launch of the series or perhaps a newly animated version with the original content Even though that would never happen.

I love Sailor Moon. Someday I would like to direct the live-action Sailor Moon movie, if I really felt it, and thought I could do it well. The first film would be the first season, condensed, but long enough to actually make sense and be good. Then if that succeeded, try to continue with each season as a sequel.

Slave2moonlight, what about Japanese girls with dyed blonde hair? Honestly, there are some girls with light brown hair in Japan that could be dyed blonde, and of course even black hair can be made any color, and some have big eyes and I'm sure there are some who could look enough like the characters and act enough like them if we searched. I mean, so many girls would line up to try out for each character, we'd find the right ones.

But I thought the live-action series should have just given them temporary hair coloring for each filming, but...since that might get costly, time-consuming, and crazy, wigs may have been best for the show.

But in a movie, well, you can see how that changes everything, among time and production values being greatly increased.

And by the way, Naoko actually thought Sailor Moon would have blonde hair as a normal girl, then silver hair after she transformed. I think. So the idea of their hair changing fits, as well as makes sense when...people would notice girls with unnatural colored hair that they say they were born with. I know, I know, you could make the film take place in a universe where all people have any possible color in their hair. And maybe I'd do that. But I think the transforming idea is cool.

slave2moonlight wrote: Not saying a film shouldn't be done in a serious tone, but the character is totally a teenie-bopper Disney Channel type girl.

Sailor Stars says otherwise.

Disney Duster wrote:I love Sailor Moon. Someday I would like to direct the Sailor Moon movie. The first film would be the first season, condensed, but long enough to actually make sense and be good. Then if that succeeded, try to continue with each season as a sequel.

Please don't.

Disney Duster wrote:
Slave2moonlight, what about Japanese hirls with dyed blonde hair? Honestly, there are some girls with light brown hair in Japan that could be dyed blonde, and of course even black hair can be made any color, and some have big eyes and I'm sure there are some who could look enough like the characters and act enough like them if we searched. I mean, so many girls would line up to try out for each character, we'd find the right ones.

Well, I wouldn't feel a search is necessary for Moon. I'm happy with who I've picked for that role. The others I would need to find still. Ya can't find the "right" one for everyone anyway. Some people are always going to complain about the casting choices, just like with every movie based on a cartoon or comic. And, as you can see in this thread, a lot of folks are just dead set against a live-action Sailor Moon.

Anyway, you sort of described the whole problem. In trying to find a Japanese girl to play Sailor Moon, one ends up looking for a Japanese girl who doesn't look very Japanese at all. I would prefer to cast them as they look, and Sailor Moon and Sailor Venus just don't look Japanese to me. You can live in Japan and not be Japanese, after all (it's not even her real family she lives with, ha). (As for the dying vs. wigs issue, it was less about the wig itself and more about the idea of Japanese girls with blonde hair, which just doesn't look good to me.)

Super Aurora wrote:

slave2moonlight wrote: Not saying a film shouldn't be done in a serious tone, but the character is totally a teenie-bopper Disney Channel type girl.

Sailor Stars says otherwise.

Oh, c'mon, you're going to base your argument on the final season? Weak.

Well, Slave(uh, or would you prefer Moonlight? Hm, is that any hint at being a slave to Sailor Moon?), you have to see how your girls would do in the parts, you know, like, audition or something. I'm pretty sure even big actors do this...? But even if not, I would have the actors try acting as the characters, and have many people around me tell me what they thought, too.

Anyway, after what you said, I would not need the girls to look that much like the manga or anime versions. So they don't look like comic proportioned characters, so what? You know, lots of girls in Japan do make their hair colors other than black or brown...! And people like it!

So maybe I would have to adjust some things for these more real looking Japanese girls. But the story would stay the same, and the designs would stay basically the same, just perhaps a new artistic, or more realistic, style.

Disney Duster wrote:Well, Slave(uh, or would you prefer Moonlight? Hm, is that any hint at being a slave to Sailor Moon?), you have to see how your girls would do in the parts, you know, like, audition or something. I'm pretty sure even big actors do this...? But even if not, I would have the actors try acting as the characters, and have many people around me tell me what they thought, too.

Anyway, after what you said, I would not need the girls to look that much like the manga or anime versions. So they don't look like comic proportioned characters, so what? You know, lots of girls in Japan do make their hair colors other than black or brown...! And people like it!

SOME people like it. I'm not saying Japanese girls can't wear their hair other colors, but I picture Sailor Moon as a natural blonde, and that's one color I've never seen look good on a Japanese girl. The character simply does not look Japanese, and for me, looking like the original characters is as important as anything else when making a comic or cartoon based film. So, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. My personal preference is for a non-Japanese actress for that particular character (and for Venus), definitely a Japanese actress for Mars, and I could go either way for Mercury and Jupiter.

And either Slave or Moonlight is fine.

slave2moonlight wrote:

Super Aurora wrote: Sailor Stars says otherwise.

Oh, c'mon, you're going to base your argument on the final season? Weak.

Doesn't matter. Still part of the series. Even if excluding that saga, Sailor moon as a whole never once come across as a teenie bopper as oppose to the crap on Disney channel.

Saying Sailor Moon is tennie bopper is like saying Cardcaptor Sakura is one as well. Obviously the answer is "No".

Either way, let Sailor Moon rest. It been 12 years since Sailor Moon ended it's run.

Yes, it's time for more Sailor Moon!