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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:34 am
by steetboris
Yes, it's a real shame that they consider their TV series so badly, when they make so much efforts for their animated films...
I still don't understand why, because the Disney afternoon series are among the best ever made, and I'm sure most people think that way.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:04 pm
by chadhobbick
The saddest part is that each series that has already been started likes what, one more release, maybe two, to finish out the series? That is what pisses me off the most, just WB has done w/Animaniacs in not releasing the final volume.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:28 pm
by Mr. Toad
What really annoys me is the good series that were never started - House of Mouse(which I have recently bought a complete bootleg of and will still buy an official release if it comes out), Aladdin, Timon and Pumbaa, Goof Troop which only got a couple of episodes. I would love say the best 25 episodes of these. I found bootlegs of the missing episodes of Ducktales and Talespin too.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:17 pm
by jlppr
is there any way to petition for the remaining sets to be released?

i would love to complete my collection of these shows, and like someone said before of animaniacs as well. all these are pretty much just one set away each of being complete.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:02 pm
by goofystitch
You can petition all you want, but I don't think it will do much good. Disney released multiple shows and at the end of the day, all they are looking at are the numbers. They didn't sell what they expected to. Even if Ducktales became the most requested show on tvshowsondvd.com, it still wouldn't change the fact that the previous volumes didn't sell.

Outside of the possibility of the remaining episodes and shows being released through the DMC or on Disney's forthcoming on demand subscription website (like a Disney Hulu), I would say the only other way these episodes will ever be released will be if Disney follows Warner Bros. lead and starts to do print on demand DVDs.

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:39 pm
by jlppr
what's DMC? and what shows is warner bros printing on demand? i haven't heard of that before. is there a website link?

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:23 am
by goofystitch
DMC is Disney Movie Club, which sells exclusive titles to members that aren't available in stores.

Warner Bros. started the Warner Archives, a print-on-demand service for its older films. I don't believe they have released any TV shows yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are coming. Click here to go to their site.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:53 pm
by ajmrowland
What we really need to do is draw their attention to the lack of advertising they put out for these discs. Disney is being really idiotic with many of their releases trying to squeeze a quarter out of a nickel. What they fail to realize is that not only are their discs overpriced, but most people have forgotten that these cartoons exist since they were aired. Not everyone keeps tabs on DVD sites, and they fail to realize that. Essentially, Disney's got their heads in their asses.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:08 pm
by jlppr
thank you for the link. i'm gonna try it now. i hope that we get to see the final releases of all these shows.


and i agree they should advertise the dvd's better. th only reason why i knew about them was because of tvshowsondvd.com and this website. otherwise i wouldn't have known. and like the last post says, not everyone keeps tabs on dvd sites

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:12 pm
by goofystitch
I agree. Even if they didn't want to do a combined commercial for all of the releases they had planned, they should have at least done some internet banners. Even the Treasures have internet and magazine adds.

I think that they thought these would sell themselves. People who buy old animated series would check the news sites, such as tvshowsondvd.com, or Disney animation fans would find out in forums and such. They then expected the people who knew about the releases to tell their friends. The rest of the sales were expected to come from people in stores who saw the DVD on a shelf and remembered it fondly. As I have said before, the packaging and the price wasn't right. Nobody wants to pay more than $30 for a show they watched as a kid and marketing them as volume sets was the wrong choice. It allows consumers to assume that this is a random sampling vs. a complete or partial season. Other studios have had better luck breaking down season sets. For example, "Ducktales: Season 1 - Volume 1," a 4-disc set containing episodes 1-33. Rather than waiting a whole year, 6 months later they should have done "Ducktales: Season 1 - Volume 2," a 4-disc set containing episodes 34-65. And finally, 6 months later, release "Ducktales: Seasons 2 & 3," a 4-disc set containing episodes 66-100. Instead of being greedy, each set should have been $30.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:44 pm
by Luke
goofystitch wrote:Other studios have had better luck breaking down season sets. For example, "Ducktales: Season 1 - Volume 1," a 4-disc set containing episodes 1-33. Rather than waiting a whole year, 6 months later they should have done "Ducktales: Season 1 - Volume 2," a 4-disc set containing episodes 34-65. And finally, 6 months later, release "Ducktales: Seasons 2 & 3," a 4-disc set containing episodes 66-100. Instead of being greedy, each set should have been $30.
So instead of selling sets of 24-27 episodes for $25ish a piece, selling sets of 33-34 episodes for $30 would have worked in everyone's favor? I kind of doubt that.

The short of it is that Disney won't release TV content unless it generates a lot of profit. One need only look at the mounds of content they haven't released to see how conservative they are in this genre. Things like the Disney Afternoon shows, "Avonlea", "Boy Meets World", and so on clearly required a minimum of effort and money. Despite that fact, the obvious profits apparently weren't substantial enough for Disney to continue to spend that minimum of effort and money. So much for customer satisfaction.

And yet this is the same studio that keeps dipping into its vaults for barely-functional Disney Movie Club Exclusive DVDs that probably struggle to sell a thousand copies. Go figure.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:23 pm
by PeterPanfan
Luke wrote: The short of it is that Disney won't release TV content unless it generates a lot of profit. One need only look at the mounds of content they haven't released to see how conservative they are in this genre. Things like the Disney Afternoon shows, "Avonlea", "Boy Meets World", and so on clearly required a minimum of effort and money. Despite that fact, the obvious profits apparently weren't substantial enough for Disney to continue to spend that minimum of effort and money. So much for customer satisfaction.
Speaking of, is there any news regarding "Boy Meets World" rerelease?

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:29 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
Probably the only way to get more DAD (Disney Afternoon DVD's) is that Disney team up with Amazon like Nick did and release classic nicktoons on DVD exsulively through Amazon.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:31 pm
by Luke
PeterPanfan wrote:Speaking of, is there any news regarding "Boy Meets World" rerelease?
Lionsgate has the rights and they appear to be taking their time to get it out. Based on what they did for "8 Simple Rules", I expect they'll start with Season 4 of "BMW", though, so the wait for new content shouldn't be too long. Unless sales of the first seasons of "My Wife & Kids", "According to Jim", and "Hope & Faith" have scared them away from sitcom DVDs. But I doubt that.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:38 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
Lionsgate does own distrubution rights to BMW and other Beuna Vista series, but I think the only way to see more BMW would to wait till 2013 when the series turns 20 and see if they release a complete 20th Anniversary Edition DVD set.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:42 pm
by PeterPanfan
SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Lionsgate does own distrubution rights to BMW and other Beuna Vista series, but I think the only way to see more BMW would to wait till 2013 when the series turns 20 and see if they release a complete 20th Anniversary Edition DVD set.
I highly doubt that. I mean, I guess I could see it happening, but it seems more likely for them to release the seasons individually.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:42 pm
by Luke
SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Lionsgate does own distrubution rights to BMW and other Beuna Vista series, but I think the only way to see more BMW would to wait till 2013 when the series turns 20 and see if they release a complete 20th Anniversary Edition DVD set.
They could also wait until May 5, 2015 because it's the 15th anniversary of the series finale's original airing. It's a Tuesday and everything.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:51 pm
by jlppr
what i don't get is that they went as far as selling three sets of ducktales and two of the others, why not release the final sets? if anything they should release less sets or something. it couldn't have cost them too much money to make these sets. i'm sure they made some profit

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:37 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
The DVD's must of made some profit, but not what Disney was expecting is all.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:25 pm
by Ioz
I really wish Disney would license these shows out to another company like they have with some of their non-animated shows.