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Well, we found a Swedish DVD of Make Mine Music that wasn't edited.

The Saludos and Melody Time VHSes aren't edited, are they?

drfsupercenter wrote:The Saludos and Melody Time VHSes aren't edited, are they?

I am under the impression that these too are edited. I believe that the DVD print for Melody Time is the same as the earlier (as in two years earlier) video, and Saludos Amigos was released on video at the same time as the DVD.

Oh, I just used the PAL R2 DVDs... and I plan to cross-edit with the Gold Classics Collection version.

But I coulda sworn UD's review of Saludos showing the paintover used an American VHS and DVD...

Why not just get one of the "Song of the South" DVD's that is offered here on UD.................I have purchased two or three of them as gifts and they all claim to be 'digitally mastered from an original source' and on my 15' Home Theater screen with playback on a Samsung Blu-Ray play the picture was scrumptious. The sound was click-free, and it was totally unedited and there are no specks or artifacts, and it has the complete intro and outro music.

A company that is currently on hiatus had offered a Two-Disc Version of "Song of the South" for a number of years, and I have that one also. It contains a 'digitally-mastered-from-an-original-source' print of the film, with an intro from Walt Disney himself, and then the second disc has loads of bonus features (about four hours worth), some are remastered, and others are taken from whatever source was available.

Why monkey around with conversions when there are complete, unedited versions available right here on the forums?

dvdjunkie wrote:...and on my 15' Home Theater screen with playback on a Samsung Blu-Ray play the picture was scrumptious.

Surely that is a typo. A blu-ray player connected to a 15 inch home theatre screen?

' means feet. Probably a projection system?

dvdjunkie, is it bootleg? And where was it taken from? There's no "real" DVD release... so it has to have been taken from something. And heaven forbid they're selling copies of the Hong Kong laserdisc that isn't even the right speed.

I never thought of UD as the type to sell bootlegs...

My Home Theater is a front projection system with an Optomo HD projector, and my Blu-Ray player is the only source besides my Cox Cable that is hooked to it. I have a 'theater-style' screen that measures 14' 7" diagonally thus I just round it up to 15 foot. I have two rows of stadium-style seats, 4 seats in each row, four adult size bean bag chairs, 3 child size bean bag chairs and two La-Z-Boy recliners as my seating.

There are no authorized releases in the United States of "Song of the South", so I guess that you could say that yes, on the front page of UD there are bootlegs advertised. But believe me, these are very excellent copies of the film. Even the extras on the second disc are very good quality. Those extras include the 'complete' Warner Brothers short "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs" that everyone talks about, but have seldom seen in its entirety.

Don't know from where they got their 'film source', but compared to my Japanese LaserDisc, I find the picture on these DVD's at least twice as good if not better. You should order one, and compare for yourself.

dvdjunkie wrote:Those extras include the 'complete' Warner Brothers short "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs" that everyone talks about, but have seldom seen in its entirety.

Thanks Dvd Junkie. I just checked my copy of Song of the South for the Coal Black short. Eventhough it was purchased someplace else and it is only one disc the Coal Black short is hidden on mine too. I reccomend everbody just buying the bootleg. The extras are good and it beats sitting around begging Disney to release it.

OK, you guys.

If your DVDs have the Coal Black short, and it's a hidden Easter Egg... (I'm guessing it also has two trailers and some radio footage?) Than it is a bootleg of the Hong Kong laserdisc.

Why in Lord's name would you BUY it if you can get it for free? I'm helping seed a torrent of it, as I strongly oppose to commercial piracy... so please stop reccomending that anyone go and buy a bootleg. If anyone wants it, let me know and I'll give you a link.

By the way, that laserdisc rip is not even the best you can get. It's a bootleg of a PAL VHS, which means it's sped up by 4%. Thus, the running time is 3 minutes shorter than it should be, so it's not even the original.

I am just wondering why we should all wait for something that is as illegal as bootlegs. Wouldn't you consider what you are doing bootlegging? I would. There are some of us who are computer-savvy enough to know how to download to our computer, and why watch a movie on a computer screen when you have a nice Widescreen television set to watch movies on?

Incidentally folks, that single-disc copy that has the Easter egg of "Coal Black" is taken from the Laser-Disc and is truly about three minutes shorter than the original.

The two-disc version I have, along with a single-disc version that I bought from a site advertised here on UD, both have the original feature film that has been 'digitally mastered from an original source' and includes an introduction by Walt Disney and the Overture along with the Mickey Mouse Disney Logo in front of the feature film and then after the end credits there is the Outro (Exit music) with a total running time of just over 1 hour and 43 minutes. The feature film itself runs for 1:34:17.

The two-disc version doesn't have the radio stuff, but it does have a full-color complete version of the "Coal Black" short along with a couple hours of other extras.

There are so many sites out there that are selling these great bootlegs and also some that are selling the 'rip-off' bootlegs also. It is sort of potluck out there. Just read the ad carefully and if you don't like what you get from them, send it back.

"Coal Black" and other non-Disney racist films really have no place on even a bootleg copy of 'Song of the South' - - they help stigmatize the unrelated, non-racist feature film unfairly by association.

Boo to the bootleggers!

Bill, is this where you bought your copy from?
http://www.songofthesouthdvdremastered.com/

merlinjones, what do you suggest then? Surely you know it was never released on DVD anywhere.

blackcauldron85... that's the Hong Kong bootleg. If it has two trailers and radio spots, it's bound to be that. Let me know if you want it for free... I seriously have exactly what they're selling.

But I need something BETTER, the Hong Kong one is sped up by 4%, it's fine for plain watching but still looks like a VHS and isn't the original speed.

drfsupercenter wrote:But I need something BETTER, the Hong Kong one is sped up by 4%, it's fine for plain watching but still looks like a VHS and isn't the original speed.

I think you're right. I took a peek at the screenshots posted on that site, and if they are taken off the DVD, then the film must look terrible! I'm positive the copy 2099net recorded off TV for me looks better.

>>merlinjones, what do you suggest then? Surely you know it was never released on DVD anywhere.<<

Well, I still have the legit Japanese laserdisc to soothe my nerves as I wait for the Walt Disney Company to come to their senses about a DVD release of "Song of the South."

Hopefully, they will see that their actions to suppress this film are more harmful and divisive than anything in the movie itself.

And Disney could be making a lot of money on the title.

What about www.officialsongofthesouth.com ? Is that the same as the http://www.songofthesouthdvdremastered.com version ? And drfsupercenter, you said for blackcauldron85 to let you know if they wanted it for free. Would you really give it away ? I'd really like a region 1 copy but don't want to get ripped off and lose money on a bootleg version that has no intention of sending anything.

dvdjunkie wrote:I am just wondering why we should all wait for something that is as illegal as bootlegs. Wouldn't you consider what you are doing bootlegging? I would. There are some of us who are computer-savvy enough to know how to download to our computer, and why what a movie on a computer screen when you have a nice Widescreen television set to watch movies on?

Incidentally folks, that single-disc copy that has the Easter egg of "Coal Black" is taken from the Laser-Disc and is truly about three minutes shorter than the original.

The two-disc version I have, along with a single-disc version that I bought from a site advertised here on UD, both have the original feature film that has been 'digitally mastered from an original source' and includes an introduction by Walt Disney and the Overture along with the Mickey Mouse Disney Logo in front of the feature film and then after the end credits there is the Outro (Exit music) with a total running time of just over 1 hour and 43 minutes. The feature film itself runs for 1:34:17.

The two-disc version doesn't have the radio stuff, but it does have a full-color complete version of the "Coal Black" short along with a couple hours of other extras.

There are so many sites out there that are selling these great bootlegs and also some that are selling the 'rip-off' bootlegs also. It is sort of potluck out there. Just read the ad carefully and if you don't like what you get from them, send it back.

What are the sites that have a good version ?

Spottedfeather, both of those are the HK bootleg.
The easiest way to tell is to look at the running time. Enlarge the picture of the back of the box, it says 91 minutes. The original was 94. Anything that runs 91 is from a PAL source, and most likely the Hong Kong bootleg.

When I said I'd give it out for free, I meant it. I won't mail anybody anything - you have to have a high-speed Internet connection and a DVD burner. Let me know if you're interested

Of course, the one I'm offering for free is the Hong Kong bootleg. I also have the Japanese Laserdisc rip, if you want that. (Correct running time, but Japanese subtitles.) If someone has that 2-disc version, or THINK theirs is remastered (If it has the features I mentioned and running time of 91 minutes, don't bother!), let me know... and I'll show you where to upload it so we can all benefit

Darn. I don't have a dvd burner. Oh, well. Is the HK version any good ? I might just take a chance.

Well, it depends what you're looking for.

If you just want to watch the movie, it's fine. If your goal is to preserve it, though, then it really isn't. The quality is mediocre - that of a very early DVD (such as Gold Classics Collection, and it's far less than a Platinum Edition), and it's also sped up by 4%.

So it's up to you really... it's fine for just watching, but if you have a HDTV or something you'd probably find it a waste of money.