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While I wish Hercules was included in the line before they restarted it, I don't mind picking them all up on blu ray again.

But I want ALL the noise removed if so

While I LOVE Aladdin,I'm okay with it being axed.'

The DVD I have now is substantial and I love it. Of course,I would like to see some of Robin Williams on it,but we all know that won't happen.

As for Alice...I'm ecstatic! I LOVE Alice in Wonderland and it remains on my top 10 list.

So even though I am extremely skeptical about this I'll play along for a minute. So Alice gets added to line so that there is something for a spring 2011 release. Wouldn't that mean something else will be needed to be added to take the spring 2012 release? If it follows pattern Aladdin will be issued in fall 2012, that leaves spring wide open. Personally I hope Dumbo will finally get the release it deserves. Then all of the golden 10 will be in the collection.

EDIT: Just realized that 2011 is Alice's 60th anniversary. That could explain the reasoning for adding it to the collection. It can be a "60th Anniversary Platinum Edition".

Widdi wrote:Wouldn't that mean something else will be needed to be added to take the spring 2012 release? If it follows pattern Aladdin will be issued in fall 2012, that leaves spring wide open. Personally I hope Dumbo will finally get the release it deserves. Then all of the golden 10 will be in the collection.

Yeah, I agree with that. But we have to remember that adding two more titles (one year) to the collection without taking anything out, the time between the reissues will no longer be 7 to 7 years, but 8... And I really think that Disney wants to finally define this 7 years thing.

This makes me conclude that Aladdin and Dumbo will no longer be Platinum, and 2012 titles are going to be Bambi and Cinderella...

Widdi wrote:Wouldn't that mean something else will be needed to be added to take the spring 2012 release? If it follows pattern Aladdin will be issued in fall 2012, that leaves spring wide open. Personally I hope Dumbo will finally get the release it deserves. Then all of the golden 10 will be in the collection.

Yeah, I thought about all that, too, after I made my last post. Since there'll be two Platinums a year (and I mistakenly lumped Bambi in the same year as Aladdin when it should be after), that means March 2012 is open. That means there must be another title added to the collection, otherwise if they release Bambi a year early and have the rest follow, there's going to be a year with only one Platinum. I, too, think that Dumbo's a good candidate for the collection. I've always said since the beginning that Dumbo and Alice deserve to be Platinums, so let's see if Dumbo gets added now that Alice has.

And let me just say that with Alice being a Platinum (and released for its 60th anniversary), we'll probably be seeing merchandise from the film released, and that makes Kelvin a happy camper. I can't wait to see what goodies are released and what freebies are offered in various retailers. This may end up being the first Disney DVD I actually pre-order (or, rather, BD).

Poseidon wrote:Yeah, I agree with that. But we have to remember that adding two more titles (one year) to the collection without taking anything out, the time between the reissues will no longer be 7 to 7 years, but 8... And I really think that Disney wants to finally define this 7 years thing.

Well, if the chart is any indication, it seems the window has been bumped up to 8. This makes sense to me, though, because Disney opened the availability window. So now instead of being in-print a year and out of print 7, they'll be in-print 2-3 years (depending on what mood Disney's in) and out of print 8 years.

Oh, I also thought of another possible reason for Alice's 2011 release: that may be the year the live-action from Disney is released. The script is being worked on right now by Linda Woolverton and probably won't get greenlit by Disney executives until this strike is over. Now that I think about it, even with the strike halting production on this and other Disney films (like Prince of Persia), there's still a chance the film will be released 2010 since most movies are made in about two years. If that happens, then perhaps the animated Platinum Edition will coincide with the live-action DVD release, thus setting up the perfect cross-promotion.

If this is all true, I can't really see Aladdin being dropped from the line completely. I think it's really hard to say exactly why it's sales were down, but my thought is that the new release wasn't exactly publisized well and I don't think there was really a public outcry for it's release. I'm just saying that though, because that's how I personally feel about the film. It's like The Lion King for me. When I was young I was in love with it, but now I guess I'm just worn out.

As for Alice being moved to a PE, i'm shocked. I guess I can understand why though. The 60th Anniversary would've made Disney release it anyway, i'm sure of that. The fact that there will be a live-action version made also deems a large release of this film worthy. It makes sense to me in a way.

As far as adding yet another platinum to fill in the space, I think we're going to have to wait and see. I personally don't think Aladdin is cut. I think it's possible that Disney might hold off on releasing it again for a while. I can see them pulling a Cinderella, what I mean by that is maybe keeping it in the vault for way more that 7 or 8 years then promoting that it's been in the vault for 11 or so years like Cinderella was promoted. I think by then the public would be dying to have it on Blu-ray. I think Disney might add just one more title, and I think it'll be another shocker. If this is the case my personal predictions are Pocahontas, Lilo & Stitch, or Mulan. I say Pocahontas and Mulan because similar to Alice they both recieved very nice 2-Disc special editions that I think sold very well. Lilo & Stitch because of it's overall popularity.

First we started out with 10 Platinum Edition titles, then 10 turned into 14, and now it looks like we are getting still more Platinum Edition titles. I hope this trend doesn't continue forever. I like that only certain titles are being released under the Platinum title. Perhaps now Disney has had adequate time to observe the sales of the Platinum Edition titles and has decided to add a few more titles to the list. Perhaps this time 16 will be the magic number for Disney. If this is the case, I said it in here earlier, and Widdi and DisneyKid will agree with me, Dumbo definitely deserves the Platinum title. It is a timeless classic with a big (no pun intended), recognizable, lovable character. If there is going to be another addition after Alice in Wonderland I certainly think that Dumbo is most deserving.

I would love for Dumbo to get a PE release, but I see it as being very unlikely. I just don't think it has the same appeal as the Platinum titles do, and i think the fact that the Big Top Edition was released prooves this. I don't think Disney has enough evidence of positive sales for them to decide to make it a Platinum. On the flip side though, I feel that Disney may have unintentionally sabotaged Dumbo by not giving it a proper release by fan standards and making it too kiddy. This for me is the same reason why Winnie the Pooh would never be considered for PE status even though it probably deserves it.


Here's a thought.... Maybe disney should stop making the Platinum Editions and just release the films as they are and also release them in collector's editions. That way parents could buy the bare-bone releases with stupid games they apparently want for their children and the rest of us could get the huge collector's editions that would fill us with documentaries and other awesome special features that we want.

What year did the masterpiece Edition of "Alice in Wonderland" come out? It seems a little silly to have it go platinum when it got a pretty good masterpiece edition out just what, 2 1/2 years ago?

jediliz wrote:What year did the masterpiece Edition of "Alice in Wonderland" come out? It seems a little silly to have it go platinum when it got a pretty good masterpiece edition out just what, 2 1/2 years ago?

I think it came out in 2004 though I could be wrong. Which would make it 7 years old in 2011 and a reasonable candidate for a reissue.

Hm, interesting...

I wouldn't mind triple-dipping on Alice if the "Platinum Edition" gets extras the Masterpiece Edition didn't have. I read somewhere that not everything from the Laserdisc version made it to the ME version.

Umm, I don't want to alarm/disappoint anybody but I just realized a reason why Alice may appear on the schedule.

The Masterpiece Edition was released in spring of 2004. Now we all know that it was not a PE, but to someone who doesn't really know that much about past releases Alice could definitely pass as one. If the person who created this chart thought Alice was a PE that was released in spring '04 then by following the pattern Alice would be out of print this January (as the chart shows) and then reissued in spring 2011...

It may just turn out the person who made this chart didn't have correct information...

Interesting release schedule, however I'd still like to hear something about these movies, perhaps special edition releases:
Saludos Amigos
The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad

If all this is true, it's sad news for Aladdin, especially since, I think, it has the best bonus/extra features out of all the PE's. I'm glad I got mine when it was released back in 2004.

I've never been that crazy about Alice in Wonderland. I still have the original Gold Collection DVD release and didn't even bother upgrading to whatever the 2-disc edition was called.

I cannot explain how happy I am that 'Alice' has been added. It is by far and away in my top 5 Disney movies. I think it deserves this release, and a '60th Anniversary' release does seem likely.

I know Alice is very popular over here, and I'm sure another release would be welcome. Do you think it is following the format of 'Sleeping Beauty'? We had a special release for it, then a Platinum Edition announcment. Alice had her 'Masterpiece' edition, followed by now a supposed Platinum Edition as well.

Do you think Disney will just end up releasing ALL its movies in Platinum format?! It seems to be the way they are heading now ....

[quote="Disney's Divinity"]considering Enchanted basically pokes fun at the films rather than creating its own story.quote]
No,it's a homage to the classic movies,not a parody,it's real worlds meet Disney.
And besides-she is a Princess in any way,why not adding her?.

I hope they release Alice again as part of the Platinum line-up!!! Can you say triple dipping baby!!!

Widdi wrote: If the person who created this chart thought Alice was a PE that was released in spring '04 then by following the pattern Alice would be out of print this January (as the chart shows) and then reissued in spring 2011...

Isn't the point of the vault to keep movies in there for a long time? Isn't Disney supposed to hold the movies in the vault for about 7 years (sometimes more, sometimes less)? Because if AiW goes in the vault in January 2008, and gets released again in 2011, that's only 3 years that it's been in the vault, which is almost pointless. The vault is to ensure that the movies comes out for a new generation...

If the movie had been put in the vault even in 2006, it'd make a little more sense to me. But, whatever floats their boat...

Disney Villain wrote:After 9/11 I have NO tolerance for people who joke about the events. I was personally affected by 9/11, in Manhattan. Let’s just say, I'm lucky to be typing this now

I'm really sorry about that joke and 9/11 in general, I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me for that foolish remark.

I was a little offended when I heard Disney are underrating a great movie because the characters are Arabian, I'm an Arab and after 9/11 I usually see frowned eyebrows on the stampers face when he sees my passport at the airports because of my nationality.

What I'm trying to say is that there are good and horrible people wherever you go, but to assume someone is bad because of his or her race is such a shame.

I hate war with all my heart, to me a soul killed is piercing to me regardless of that person's race or religion.

I support peace, and watching movies like Pocahontas and Beauty and the Beast inspired me from an early age to judge people justly and forget about their exterior and race, and I'm mad because the same people who supported these meaningful movies are starting to show signs of discrimination which is contrary to what I thought Disney was all about.

blackcauldron85 wrote:Isn't the point of the vault to keep movies in there for a long time? Isn't Disney supposed to hold the movies in the vault for about 7 years (sometimes more, sometimes less)? Because if AiW goes in the vault in January 2008, and gets released again in 2011, that's only 3 years that it's been in the vault, which is almost pointless. The vault is to ensure that the movies comes out for a new generation...

You have a point, though it seems to me that Disney just sort of threw Alice into the collection without much planning. This would be why it didn't go out of print sooner. They probably intended for the Masterpiece Edition to stay in print always the way previous versions have done. The ME is supposed to go out of print this January, yet Disney didn't include it with their press release of other titles leaving during the same month. That leads me to believe this decision was made in the past couple of months, if at that.

Besides, I think an exception should be made for Alice, anyway, since that title has always been in print. There's never been a period time since the first VHS release where the movie hasn't been readily available to the public. So while three years seems insubstantial compared to other movies like Cinderella, for Alice that's a new record. Plus, Disney probably considers Alice to be the dark horse of the Platinum Collection and isn't as worried about it not being very exclusive the way they might about their crown jewels like Snow White or Beauty and the Beast.