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Loomis wrote:Scrooge McDuck was a cranky old bugger only interested in money. In DuckTales, this ruthlessness is downplayed and he is simply the loveable (but still greedy) uncle of Donald's nephews. Did this "ruin" the character? Hell, no - it endeared him to countless millions.

Wow, you're missing a LOT of history of the Disney Ducks there. Carl Barks did a wonderful job of making the world that Duck Tales takes place in, mostly in the comic book Walt Disney Comics and Stories. Great stuff there, fleshed out all of Duckburg and the Beagle Boys. Check some of them out from a local comic store or by finding some of the collections in bookstores.

Yeah, this is my first post, but I've been lurking for awhile, just never registered.

jeff

slappythedarkjedi wrote:Yeah, this is my first post, but I've been lurking for awhile, just never registered.

Glad you did! Welcome aboard, Jeff!

Tinkerbell NEWS.......





Posted below is a link to an article from Disney Consumer Products that offers a wealth of great information about the new Tinkerbell franchise and a new Princess Franchise known as Disney Princess Season of Enchantment — "a new product and promotional theme bringing new stories to life through entertainment from Walt Disney Pictures and BVHE."

Link To Article:
https://licensing.disney.com/Login/disp ... =pressRoom

Link to LARGE NEW Tinkerbell Image:
https://enterpriseportal.disney.com/gop ... _movie.jpg

slappythedarkjedi wrote:Wow, you're missing a LOT of history of the Disney Ducks there. Carl Barks did a wonderful job of making the world that Duck Tales takes place in, mostly in the comic book Walt Disney Comics and Stories.

First of all, welcome!!! Great to see you posting here!

Secondly, I totally have to agree with you there. In fact, many would say that DuckTales is a watered down version of the wonderfully imaginative characters and stories that Carl Barks created. Anyone that calls themselves a fan of the cartoon really needs to check out the comics that inspired (ripped-off?) the series.

At the risk of getting further off-topic. . .

Something available now that's really worth getting is "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" by Don Rosa, which you should be able to find or order at your local comic shop. He takes as many facts as possible from Barks' Scrooge stories to put together his history. In it you see him as a young boy (duckling?) with his family (including his sister Hortense, who is Donald's mother), how he earned his #1 dime, how he earned his millions and and became so tough and jaded that he lost the love of his family, and how he hit rock bottom right before meeting Donald and the nephews.

In all honesty, this is something I was really, really love to see done in animation. You might not expect it, it's got adventure and humor in it, and there are parts in it that actually made me cry.

You can see a fairly detailed review of the comic here: http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18868

Ok, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

enigmawing wrote:

slappythedarkjedi wrote:Wow, you're missing a LOT of history of the Disney Ducks there. Carl Barks did a wonderful job of making the world that Duck Tales takes place in, mostly in the comic book Walt Disney Comics and Stories.

First of all, welcome!!! Great to see you posting here!

Secondly, I totally have to agree with you there. In fact, many would say that DuckTales is a watered down version of the wonderfully imaginative characters and stories that Carl Barks created. Anyone that calls themselves a fan of the cartoon really needs to check out the comics that inspired (ripped-off?) the series.

First up, I'd also like to welcome slappythedarkjedi/enigmawing to the forum. Hope it is the first of many posts.

However, this kind if gets to the heart of my point - Scrooge McDuck has been reinterpreted several times, and found new audiences. The DuckTales version may be watered down, but it certainly connected with audiences. I think a large majority of UD users, and Disney DVD buyers generally, went out to buy these DVDs last year. People liked DuckTales, regardless of the origin.

Now many people were sure to have complained about the "Disneyfication" of Peter Pan upon the original release, just as some may have taken issue with DuckTales or Tail Spin upon their releases. All three examples are reinterpretations of previous works that met with resistance/had their detractors at the time of release, and if the evidence on this board is anything to go by, still have some now. However, all three are now considered 'classics' in their particular genre. The point is that time forgives many things. The Tinkerbell movie may be seen as a brilliant reinvention in 20 years time and people will cry out for its release on whatever format they are using the same way we cry out for Disney Television on DVD. Secondly, we have no way of telling what the concept will yield until it is completed. Why should this reinterpretation be any different to the other ones we've mentioned here?

Loomis-

Oh, I totally get what you're saying. . . I just couldn't resist on going off on a tangent over one of my all-time favorite Disney characters (I often feel he's misunderstoood). If it hadn't been for DuckTales, I probably wouldn't have looked into the original comics, and I still carry a deep attachment to the show.

(And BTW, Slappy's the first time poster, not me, but thank you for the welcome. I'm still new myself. Well, er-- sort of.)

But yeah, characters constantly get introduced to new audiences under different incarnations, often at the resistance of the original fans-- and I used to be one of them. I try really hard to see things with an open mind these days though.

Nice wallpaper that was posted up there. Both my wife and daughter are huge Tink fans and will be suprised on the change of the desktop.

Posted in the article, "Brittany Murphy Gives Tinker Bell Her Voice":

"I've had the good fortune of playing many interesting characters, but none as magical as Tinker Bell," said Ms. Murphy. "To give Tinker Bell a voice for the first time in history is such an honor."

Well I'm glad at least she realizes what a great honor it is. Considering how much arguing/debating is going on in this here thread about whether or not this will destroy Tink for good, she should consider it a great honor. I'm sure Disney spent a heck of alot of time carefully selecting the person to be the voice of Tink.

I've never heard of Brittany Murphy doing the voice of Tinkerbell where she speaks for the first time in Disney history in the upcoming animated CGI film. When you go back to 1953, Tinkerbell was first introduced in "Peter Pan", she can't speak. During the TV years on Walt's TV show "Disneyland" in 1954, Tinkerbell made her debut off screen in one of the intros. She also appeared in numerous weekly TV shows like "Walt Disney Presents" in 1958, "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color" in 1961 where Tinkerbell was introduced at the start of first act as well as the main intro. In 1969, she was also appeared on "The Wonderful World of Disney" three years after Walt's death in 1966 where she continued to do intros and the start of Act 1. She was appeared at the very beginning of "Fanatsy In the Sky" fireworks at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World until the early 2000's. After 53 years where Tinkerbell appeared in every Disney movie and TV show, Tinkerbell can't speak. What is she going to do, she going to speak for the first time in history. I've never heard of Tinkerbell speaks in the upcoming film. Brittany Murphy is getting the job right to do the voice of Tinkerbell. This should be part of the Disney Fairies. I'm not a big fan of the Disney Fairies, but I do like her when she appeared in "Peter Pan" and on every old Disney TV shows for years. I would like to see Tinkerbell speaks for the first time. I hope this works.

musicradio77 wrote:After 53 years where Tinkerbell appeared in every Disney movie and TV show, Tinkerbell can't speak. What is she going to do, she going to speak for the first time in history. I've never heard of Tinkerbell speaks in the upcoming film.

Well didnt she speak in the 2003 Peter Pan movie? Or did I just think she spoke?

Pluto Region1 wrote:Well didnt she speak in the 2003 Peter Pan movie? Or did I just think she spoke?

No she didn't. She just laughs and coughs, but this also sounds like "tinkle tinkle".

First of all, I absolutely love the branding they've done with this whole Tinkerbell thing. It looks to me like they're on the right track to a huge success.

Secondly - I prefer to think of Tinkerbell speaking along the same lines of the dogs speaking in Lady and the Tramp - the humans can't hear them talking...it's just bringing their species 'speak' into words for us to hear.