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Yes, because Disney said so. End of discussion...

Chicken Little IS AN ANIMATED CLASSIC.
here is a pic I made from DisneyDVD.com:


Just go to http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/animated.html
They did; however, leave out Lilo & Stitch, The Little Mermaid, and The Emperor's New Groove. They usually do this if the movie is getting an upgrade or has just gotton an upgrade on DVD.

A couple of problems exist with that list.

Why are Lady and Peter Pan on there twice?

When did The Reluctant Dragon become an AC?

EDIT: The Little Mermaid appears to be absent.

BrandonH wrote:A couple of problems exist with that list.

Why are Lady and Peter Pan on there twice?

When did The Reluctant Dragon become an AC?

EDIT: The Little Mermaid appears to be absent.

I just updated my post with a few answers to your questions. Lady & the Tramp, & Peter Pan appear twice because of my poor cropping skills lol. They did leave out Lilo & Stitch, The Little Mermaid, and The Emperor's New Groove. They usually do this if the movie is getting an upgrade or has just gotton an upgrade on DVD. This is common for the website. I have no clue why The Reluctant Dragon is there.

Adding to the list of missing titles:
101 Dalmatians
Beauty and the Beast

Odd.

Escapay.

Escapay wrote:Adding to the list of missing titles:
101 Dalmatians
Beauty and the Beast

Odd.

Escapay.

I can't beleive I missed those. That is odd, though. What's even odder is that 101 Dalmatians (animated) can't even be found by searching the site, but the films official site STILL exists from the Limited Issue DVD:
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/101/

There you go!
As long as that list is inaccurate I have the right not to consider Chicken Little a classic!!

Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:There you go!
As long as that list is inaccurate I have the right not to consider Chicken Little a classic!!

So if the list *were* accurate, would you consider CL part of the DAC canon?

Anyways, it looks like this thread has gone to 3 pages rehashing everything discussed over and over again. That's UD for ya! I still consider Chicken Little to be a Disney Animated Classic (note the uppercase). But it's not an animated classic yet (note the lowercase).

Escapay

Escapay wrote:So if the list *were* accurate, would you consider CL part of the DAC canon?Escapay

Well, I would accept the fact that Disney, for marketing reasons, decided to name that movie a DAC (in that case,it would be more suitable if its meaning was Disney Animated Crap ), but I would never consider it being a true classic.

Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:

Escapay wrote:So if the list *were* accurate, would you consider CL part of the DAC canon?Escapay

Well, I would accept the fact that Disney, for marketing reasons, decided to name that movie a DAC (in that case,it would be more suitable if its meaning was Disney Animated Crap )

I never heard that one before! I'm glad you used the lower-case where necessary ("true classic"). A "Classic" is different from "classic", in the Disney sense. If only it were that simple for others to understand!

Escapay

At least the way I see it, there seems to be one basic "problem" with this discussion. Some of us (myself very much included) prefer to see "The 44" as a finished chapter, a "canon", as has already been mentioned - without including CL and other forthcoming CGI titles.

Others, on the other hand, disagree.

The distiction between non-CGI and CGI animation can hardly be drawn by means of criteria such as quality of story or element of timelessness or anything like that. I think it appears now that the meaning of the term "Disney Classic" is pretty unclear. To me it doesn't really matter all that much anyway. I'll just use a somewhat different definition of the "canon". Such as "traditionally animated theatrical features".

I've started taking the use in Disney marketing of the word "classic" less and less serious. A "classic" is something that has stood the test of time.

Escapay wrote:I still consider Chicken Little to be a Disney Animated Classic (note the uppercase). But it's not an animated classic yet (note the lowercase).

We all know that Disney uses the word "classic" as they see fit. But I think it's wrong to assume that the capitalization of "animated classic" has any special significance. It only depends on the context. Animated classic is not a name or a trade mark.

In English, it's common for the initial letters of the words in a headline/caption to be in upper case. Thus, if you were to create a table of animated classics, it would only be natural for the caption to read "Animated Classics."

If you do a Google search like this
"animated classic" site:disney.go.com
you'll find that Disney only rarely spell "animated classic" with capitals, and when they do, it's usually because the term is used as part of a headline.

Other languages have other spelling conventions. For example, in German, all nouns should always have the first letter in upper case.

Chicken Little IS an Animated Classic!

End of story.

Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Chicken Little IS an animated classic!

End of story.

So, this means war, eh?

Then, I'd like to inform you that...

Chicken Little is NOT an animated classic!

And here is the end of the story!!!


p.s. I just try to be as democratic as you are!

Have we established why it even matters?

Lars Vermundsberget wrote:Have we established why it even matters?

I would suggest that it determines what needs to be collected for bragging rights to a complete Disney Animated Classics collection, but I'm guessing anyone savvy enough to care will probably buy the film either way. Not that bragging rights matter.

Anders M Olsson wrote:

Escapay wrote:I still consider Chicken Little to be a Disney Animated Classic (note the uppercase). But it's not an animated classic yet (note the lowercase).

I think it's wrong to assume that the capitalization of "animated classic" has any special significance. It only depends on the context. Animated classic is not a name or a trade mark.

When I use the term "Animated Classic" with uppercase letters, I use it as part of the canon of Disney films animated by WDFA. When I use the term "animated classic" with the lowercase letters, I use it as a more artistic term, as many others have. Therefore, I don't think it's wrong that there's a difference between "Animated Classic" and "animated classic". Capitalizing it gives it significance to me, as a capitalized "Animated Classic" simply refers to the film as one in the DAC canon, while if I said "animated classic" in reference to any animated film, it would be the artistic connotation. I always use "Animated Classic" in the context of naming a movie from the list of 45, and "animated classic" in the context of what I would believe to be a well-produced animated film, be it from Disney, Warner Brothers, Pixar, Dreamworks, Bluth, etc.

Example:

"Chicken Little is an Animated Classic, as it was animated by WDFA."

"Some of my favorite animated classics are Dumbo, Gulliver's Travels, The Last Unicorn, An American Tail, Beauty and the Beast, Grave of the Fireflies, and Finding Nemo."

Notice how the first sentence uses it as part of a group of films, while the second sentence uses it as an artistic designation of films I enjoyed.

And of course, semantics aside as to whether it should or shouldn't be capitalized, Chicken Little is an Animated Classic. Is it an animated classic? Not yet.

Escapay

Escapay wrote:And of course, semantics aside as to whether it should or shouldn't be capitalized, Chicken Little is an Animated Classic. Is it an animated classic? Not yet.

I guess this does make sense. If Disney Marketing says that CL is a "Classic"; then that's what it is, in a "trademark" sense of the word, and really no longer open for discussion. Whether or not it's a "classic" is up to future film critics and philosophers to decide.

Then we're left with the question of "bragging rights", which, of course, must be clearly defined.

I loved Chicken Little but I don't think it deserves that "classic" term just yet.

Aladdin from Agrabah wrote: So, this means war, eh?

Then, I'd like to inform you that...

Chicken Little is NOT an animated classic!

And here is the end of the story!!!


p.s. I just try to be as democratic as you are!

Well okay, from now on I'll do it by Escapay and capitalize "Animated Classic" and say,

"Chicken Little IS an Animated Classic!"

It's fits into Disney's definition of a "Classic" therefore, is a Classic.

That right there is a fact. Anyone who disagrees, just has fun in arguing!