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Pasta67 wrote:"If you look to your left, you should see the sequel to this movie on the shelf as well. Please buy that while you're at it."

Escapay

If you ask me, they should've made The Fox and the Hound with this kind of Fox in the lead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_fox

While most types of Foxes are fairly cute, that one takes the cake. It's really too bad we never domesticated them.

Pasta67 wrote:I hoping it's some variation of this image, which it probably will be if that ad is anything to go by.

I actually hope it looks nothing like this. The VHS cover and the DVD cover have both looked like this. I would prefer if Disney would do something new with these characters, like they did for Bambi. Give us a taste of something new that we like but still gives us that classic feel.

I am excited for this release because it shows that Disney is focusing on the releases of some of its not-as-well-known films. This gives hope for future releases of movies like The Rescuers, The Rescuers Down Under, The Aristocats, The Great Mouse Detective, and Oliver & Company!

maybe they could have the old guy and tods owner in the background with chief and have tod and copper playing in front of them

Amos and Widow (something)


I hope if this movie gets bonus features, some of them will deal with the enormous amount of confusion this movie generates. I mean the message is... kill innocent animals for the sport / bonding opportunity?! Doesn't that kind of go against the message of Bambi, without even explaining why?! There are better ways to teach the value of friendship than to assume in a movie where people cannot understand animals' language (which we the viewer understand), that the hunter suddenly appreciates the friendship of a fox and a hound or his own fool life being saved - after he darn near could have killed the Widow after shooting multiple gunshots at her automobile! And that the message of we should not judge someone based on what they are, after their only animal friend turns against them, knowing full-well that their life was in danger... is sort of lost for the plot's convenience.

Also, didn't the name Vixey seem off to anyone else but me? And the animal voices - Mickey Rooney playing a 'teenage' character... Considering that his biggest movie role following this was as a loony, sadistic, psycho-killer Santa Claus- I don't think so. Then Kurt Russell as teenage Copper... again, what? I could buy him in John Carpenter's The Thing for 37 years old, but this is just plain lunacy. Sandy Duncan as Vixey? Again with Disney - right sentiment, wrong actors, wrong ages - wrong wrong wrong.

Lazario wrote:the animal voices - Mickey Rooney playing a 'teenage' character... Considering that his biggest movie role following this was as a loony, sadistic, psycho-killer Santa Claus- I don't think so. Then Kurt Russell as teenage Copper... again, what? I could buy him in John Carpenter's The Thing for 37 years old, but this is just plain lunacy. Sandy Duncan as Vixey? Again with Disney - right sentiment, wrong actors, wrong ages - wrong wrong wrong.

but the voices fit the characters perfectly so that makes up for it

i wonder how old micky rooney was when he played teen tod

anger is pointless wrote:i wonder how old micky rooney was when he played teen tod

I'm assuming he's in the early 70's. Considering the fact that he was also in the animated film, "The Care Bears Movie", about 4 years later. He was voiced as a trained magician, telling stories to children about Care-A-Lot and the Care Bears.

Dang it, Carol King's "Care-A-Lot" is now stucking in my head for a short period of time.

Glad that this movie is finally, hopefully, going to get a decent (hopefully 2-disc) Special Edition. If I recall correctly, it was the last Disney movie I actually saw in the movie theater. I grew away from animated movies at that time, and sadly even missed such things as Lion King and Beauty and the Beast on the big screen. So it holds a special place in my heart.

In the words of the might Oshi: "Fox and Hound is good film!"

If this proves to be a worthy SE, 2-Disc or otherwise, it is encouraging to think that even some of the 'lesser' animated films will get a better treatment over the next few years.

Of course, chronologically speaking, the next "25th Anniversary Edition" (The Black Cauldron) would be at least 4 years away. I do hope to see a 20th Anniversary Edition of the Great Mouse Detective this year though!

anger is pointless wrote:but the voices fit the characters perfectly so that makes up for it

No, they didn't. That's my point. Only the supporting characters were cast appropriately - especially the Widow, Amos, Chief, the birds, and Big Mama Owl. But like I'm saying, supporting characters can't make up for embarassingly-off cast and voiced main characters. For a movie with such bad songs and an underwhelming score, it's not appropriate that Kurt Russell's Copper is far too intense, Sandy Duncan's Vixey is so motherly that she forgets what character she was cast as and thinks she's Big Mama, and Mickey Rooney's Tod is so slow and confused-speaking, that he's practically senile! So no, I'm afraid these voices absolutely did not fit the characters perfectly, well, or otherwise.

Not one of my all-time favorites, but still good.

This is coming out in a few months, why is it that we havn't heard anything new about it in such a long time? and we still don't have "real" cover art... this kind of makes me worry...

Yeah, it's a bit worrisome, but I don't see a reason for Disney to drop the re-release. The sequel is coming out in November, and it's tradition to pimp out the original in order to promote the new movie. <i>The Fox and the Hound</i> isn't the best Disney film, but it's close to my heart and I'd love to have a 2-disc DVD set.

PatrickvD wrote:wasn't there some mystery surrounding the movie's OAR? what's the correct one and what's the aspect ratio on the Gold Collection disc? My region 2 NL disc is foolscreen..

I don't think that the aspect ratio was the correct one on the Gold Collection DVD. I'm pretty sure, but I might be wrong.

The DVD packaging's gone through several changes. Initial DVDs simply said "1.33:1 Aspect Ratio" and had a "This movie has been formatted to fit your TV" blurb on the bottom. After some years with this blurb, in August/September of last year it mysteriously changed to "1.33:1 Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio", then a short while later to "1.33:1 Original Aspect Ratio". Both those new changes had dropped the "formatted to fit your TV" blurb on the bottom. But even though they all say 1.33:1, the film came in 1981, four years after The Rescuers, which is in 1.66:1. So unless The Rescuers is matted from a 1.33:1 animated film, and The Fox and the Hound is open-matte (but matted for theaters), 1.33:1 is not the OAR for F&H.

Haven't watched my copy of F&H in awhile, but I remember the review here addresses the aspect ratio issue as well, and sums up that it is possible that the picture is open-matte.

Escapay

So are we getting the DVD with the correct "Aspect Ratio?"

I'm glad to see that some of the "smaller" animated classics are getting better dvd releases. I mean yes, fox and the hound is an animated classic and obviously should get this release but its kind of one of those movies that seldom gets acknowledged. Hopefully we'll get a spiffed up black cauldron some day. But I still can't get over the fact that fox and the hound is already 25....it seems so old! ahh... 80s disney stuff is the best but now its all starting to seem so old.

Escapay wrote:Haven't watched my copy of F&H in awhile, but I remember the review here addresses the aspect ratio issue as well, and sums up that it is possible that the picture is open-matte.

I don't think the old DVD is open matte, because if you crop it to 16:9 it seems to be missing too much of the animation on top and bottom, unlike the 60's & 70's animated films, which can be watched perfectly within the 16:9 frame.

There is a widescreen (letterboxed) laserdisc of the Rescuers (1977). I guess this would implicate that the "fullscreen" (4:3) home video versions of the same title are P&S'd, not open matte. Then I'd guess that the same thing could be the case with F&H...

However, the various statements reveal confusion regarding this particular matter.

The Rescuers was designed in a 1.66 AR. The Fox and the Hound was only made to be Full Screen - 1:33.