Disney's Divinity wrote:Although you may not be saying this, that article doesn’t indicate that Cooper is in that kind of relationship at all.
Yeah, I'm not saying that at all. I mean, these pictures just brought the possibility of this happening one day, and I think that's really progressive.
Disney's Divinity wrote: Besides, it would be more interesting to see more positive, well-known, monogamous gay relationships (between two men, which is clearly seen as more taboo) considering they are rare.
I think polyamorous relationships are
much more rare and seen as much more taboo than gay relationships. But because both are seen this way, I think it would be really awesome if there was a healthy gay poly relationship in the media. It would help the public to see that both of these things are fine, especially if a likable guy like Cooper was showing people that yeah, he is gay, and yeah, it's an open relationship. And there is nothing wrong with that. (Not saying that the relationship between Cooper and Maisani is indeed poly, but it's just the idea that something like this would probably bring a whole bunch of acceptance to both gay and open relationships at the same time).
Disney's Divinity wrote:Even the article acknowledges it, with:
There's a very good chance that for Maisani, like many gay men in long-term, healthy, committed relationships, a make-out session in the park is not only acceptable but just another typical Saturday-afternoon activity.
I didn't read this the same way you did the first time. I thought this was part of the writer's "fantasies about what a radical moment this could be for America.". Not something factual. I felt like he meant it could be normal for many gay people, just as straight people BUT I could be wrong.
Disney's Divinity wrote:I don’t consider non-monogamous relationships to be as common in the gay community as some like to believe, but I could be wrong.
No, I think you are right. I think non-monogamous relationships have a pretty similar rate of occurrence in straight, gay, and bi people. Just seeing both at the same time in the media from a likable person, that's all I find interesting about this article, because I never thought of the two types of relationships in the media together before. And I started thinking just how big of an effect that could make.
Disney's Divinity wrote:Legally, I honestly wouldn’t support polygamy, though I don’t care if people have relationships with multiple partners. Three people wouldn’t be a big deal, but I don’t see how it wouldn’t be a huge clusterfuck for 5 to 9 people to get married to each other. I feel sorry for the people who would have to go over the paperwork.
Yeah, what I mean, and I think what the article means as well, is just hoping to get people to not think that non-monogamous relationships are inherently bad.
I don't think even most poly people support the legalization of anything, because yeah, it would be totally confusing. Although, I'm not poly, so I really shouldn't speak for them.
Let's face it, most of America (I really don't know much about this outside america) thinks of non-monogamous relationships as a guy living on a ranch with several wives. There is nothing wrong with that of course, but it is not the most common form of poly relationships. A lot are just as described in the article. You may be living with your partner, but you both agree on (and this is the important part) the fact that it is an open relationship, and seeing people outside of that relationship isn't cheating. And that can be healthy.
Disney's Divinity wrote:As an aside, I would say personally that it’s not for me; something brief would be interesting, but I couldn't work with it long-term. And I know open relationships and/or swinging would never work for me, but good to everyone out there who feels differently.
I totally agree. I'm not sure if it would work out too well for me either.
EDIT: I didn't want to double post, but I just wanted to share
http://www.advocate.com/crime/2012/08/1 ... icago]this. Not much to say about that. 19 years old. Horrible.
Although it is important to mention that the 1 in 12 statistic mentioned is incorrect. The statistics are horrible, but not quite that horrible.