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Disney Duster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:09 pm I read the book years ago, and don't remember the stuff about the Darlings unsure of they would keep Wendy or adopting the Lost Boys. Were those things in the play or the book or both?

I think in the play.

Oh, ok. Thanks.

Disney removed all the leaked photos from social media. They have been having issues with leaks lately with this and The Little Mermaid. Can't wait to see the rest of the characters from Wish for the first time as ugly toys.

Disney Duster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:09 pm I read the book years ago, and don't remember the stuff about the Darlings unsure of they would keep Wendy or adopting the Lost Boys. Were those things in the play or the book or both?

You can find it in the first chapter of the book
Wendy came first, then John, then Michael.
For a week or two after Wendy came it was doubtful whether they would be able to keep her, as she was another mouth to feed.

Thank goodness abortion was illegal back then or Wendy would have been a goner!

I never knew Peter Pan (the book) was so dark.

The Darling Family in Walt’s version is decidedly upper middle class, imo. I always loved their home in the Bloomsbury neighborhood of London, and wanted to live there. (I was 9 when I first saw the film.) I love Mary Darling’s party dress and Wendy’s iconic blue nightgown.

The little I’ve read of the original that folks have posted here makes them sound like something out of Oliver Twist!

Peter pan is really cruel in the book. Sometimes I didn't even like him. But you should read the complete story. It is really good and magical

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:36 am Peter pan is really cruel in the book. Sometimes I didn't even like him.

He's worse in the book, but he's a jerk in the Disney movie, too.

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:11 pmAlthough, I'm a bit surprised they did, they usually like to make you doubt whether all the adventures in the fantasy world were real or not and now they won't be able to do that.

That's why the ending of the original works so well. It captured the bittersweet ambivalence of the childhood experience. When you grow up, you aren't always sure if some moments from your childhood really happened or not. They kinda feel like memories from a dream. The filmmakers of the original understood that and were able to convey it well.

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:28 pmAlso, like Sotiris said, it's not very believable the Darlings would adopt all these children. The Lost Boys returning to their own homes, as in the version you saw, would make more sense, in my opinion.

Agreed. It would have been less egregious had they gone with that.

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:55 amYou can find it in the first chapter of the book
Wendy came first, then John, then Michael.
For a week or two after Wendy came it was doubtful whether they would be able to keep her, as she was another mouth to feed.

Oh. I wonder why I didn't remember that. Anyway, thank you.

carolinakid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:18 pm My Peter Pans are the 1953 Walt Disney classic and the Mary Martin Broadway production.

What are your thoughts on the 2003 adaptation? I know some members here are fans if it and even prefer it to Disney's.

Farerb,
I never saw the 2003 version. I’m sorry I can’t comment.

I've stayed mostly out of this discussion because I'm not too familiar with the many versions, and although I like Disney's original version, it hasn't ever been one of my main go to's. I will say that the leaked images weren't all too bad, but nothing that wasn't expected. I think of this as another cash grab by Disney and in the end will have as much spark as Pinocchio did.

The ending was never something that stuck with me, and I think it's treated that way in most versions. The whole "we'll adopt everyone" thing is very silly, and plays into the whole fairy tale/happy ending pattern. It's like 101 Dalmatians. A Dalmatian Plantation... really? That would be a hellscape in less than an hour. It's just best, that no one think too deeply into it. I do prefer Disney's original in that way.

I remember liking the 2003 version and I own a copy of it on DVD. I don't think I've watched it in 15 years though, and don't remember how it wrapped up. I'm sure I'll watch this new version none the less, but I'm less sure I'll treasure it and view it multiple times. In the long term when I get a Pan-hankering I'll probably always go to Hook or the animated version.

New Tiger Lily book - Tiger Lily and the Secret Treasure of Neverland:

https://a.co/d/3e4olpc

Did they announce an official release date?

Sotiris wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:01 am The general awfulness of the remakes have made me appreciate the DisneyToon sequels much more. I'll take Return to Never Land any day over this.

I thought Return to Never Land was one of the decent DTV sequels. I remember watching it in theaters with my mom and sister, and then, my mom got me the original theatrical poster, that I got to hang in my room.

Tiger Lily herself Alyssa Wapahnatik says the trailer is coming real soon: https://www.instagram.com/p/CpDkKG3vPSd ... MyMTA2M2Y=.

Trailer drops tomorrow, announced by Wendy Daimg herself and daughter of Mila Jovovich, Ever Anderson: https://instagram.com/stories/everander ... MyMTA2M2Y=.

Trailer:
https://youtu.be/9Ji5U2sTlLU

Streaming April 28.

Hard pass. That trailer did nothing for me. I’ll stick with the 1953 Walt Disney classic!

Also there's a new poster:

O look…they’re flying to Neve…. The coast of ireland… Come one Disney, put some effort in your own legacy fgs