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Disney's Divinity wrote:Most of them don’t have talking snowmen though.

Or talking teapots.

If you can't see the difference between clever and inane, I can't help you.

If they just brought them to life for the hell of it, then it would be inane. But the land becomes cursed, or enchanted... similar to the way that Beast's castle was. The snowmen may very well turn out to be awful - but it's far too early to call that yet.

qindarka wrote:

DARTH KNITE wrote:I lost all interest in this movie when I heard is was a comedy and not a serious film. Now that I know it's not even hand drawn, I won't be buying a ticket.

Most Disney movies, and Western Animation as a whole, can be considered to be comedies.

Obviously since the original term from the greek means a play with happy ending.

Super Aurora wrote:Obviously since the original term from the greek means a play with happy ending.

I thought that, too. I know all Disney films have a touch of comedy (Disney films are a mish-mash of genres), but the only ones I would call flat-out comedies in the modern sense would be Aladdin, TENG, and Hercules. And maybe The Sword in the Stone and Home On the Range.

I don't think Frozen is supposed to be in that vein though.

Lnds500 wrote:

PatrickvD wrote:Oh totally, I always crack up at the part where Frollo sniffs on Esmeralda's hair as he imagines raping her. So funny.

So what? A movie which has serious moments can't have comedic moments as well?

I was being sarcastic because I thought you were too.

I love Hunchback for its seriousness and its comedic moments. I just thought advertising is as a comedy is kind of stupid.

PatrickvD wrote:

Lnds500 wrote: I think it's one of the funniest Disney films to date

Oh totally, I always crack up at the part where Frollo sniffs on Esmeralda's hair as he imagines raping her. So funny.

And what is so funny about that?

PatrickvD wrote:Hunchback was also advertised as a comedy in some trailers. Which is pretty laughable of course.

That's true, but remember that it was the 90's and the times were different.

PatrickvD wrote:I was being sarcastic because I thought you were too.

I love Hunchback for its seriousness and its comedic moments. I just thought advertising is as a comedy is kind of stupid.

I see. No, I really think there is strong comedy in HoND, even if the basic story is pretty dark. I actually never thought of how dark this movie is before coming here and on Blu-ray.com. I still have it on my "funny Disney movies" list (Mulan, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Tarzan, Hercules, Robin Hood, The Aristocats, The Emperor's New Groove)

Btw, are you talking about this one?
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Frankly I don't get a comedy vibe from this one, I think the trailer is a mess really and doesn't do justice to any specific part of the movie.

No, I couldn't find it. There was a TV spot that had a voice over saying something along the lines of 'the funniest comedy of the year'.

It was cringe worthy.

PatrickvD wrote:There was a TV spot that had a voice over saying something along the lines of 'the funniest comedy of the year'.

Is it this one?

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Actually, in Spain the Hunchback was announced at the movies with a very dramatic and epic trailer
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I was about 6 years old then, and I went to see the movie, a little bit scared but I loved it (as the extreme Disney fan that I am xD)
But later, on the TV and VHS commercials, the only thing I remember was the comedy scenes
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So, I'm never worried about the trailers of the films, the last example we have is Tangled.... all, and I mean, ALL the trailers were about Flynn and his adventures... but at the end, we have the wonderful Disney movie that is =)

With the upcoming Frozen trailers, I'm sure we won't see Anna very much, I'm convinced that they're going to focus on Kristoff (the brave and very VERY manly mountain man) and a few gags of Olaff... oh, and forget to see Elsa until almost the release... the same thing happened with Mother Gothel.

Of course, all this is a suggestion, maybe Disney will take the promotion of Frozen in a different way
As always forgive my horrible english x(

Disney's Divinity wrote:If you can't see the difference between clever and inane, I can't help you.

Of course, we are fine with the results of the talking teapots in BATB because the movie has been released and we have seen that they have been implemented well (some may differ).

Not saying that the talking snowmen will be implemented well, I have had my doubts as well, but we have barely any information.

Ryan Rosendal wrote:Jennifer Lee is a real talent. WDAS is very lucky to have someone like her working for them.

Anonymous wrote:You can have her if you like. No experience in directing or animation – just one screenplay to her name – and she had no hand in the story concept and played second fiddle to Phil Johnston on the book.

WDAS looking for diversity no doubt. A horrible decision. I wonder if we will ever see supervising animators directing again.

Source: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/disne ... 74022.html

Sotiris wrote:

Ryan Rosendal wrote:Jennifer Lee is a real talent. WDAS is very lucky to have someone like her working for them.

Anonymous wrote:You can have her if you like. No experience in directing or animation – just one screenplay to her name – and she had no hand in the story concept and played second fiddle to Phil Johnston on the book.

WDAS looking for diversity no doubt. A horrible decision. I wonder if we will ever see supervising animators directing again.

Source: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/disne ... 74022.html

I understand now why we haven't seen really anything for Frozen. With a co-director coming on board it's clear problems are abound for this film. Wreck-it Ralph has grossed 158 million here in the states in exactly 1 month since it's release. It should surpass 200 million by around Christmas. The pressure for Frozen has risen. 2013 is going to be a stressful year for WDAS trying to complete thid film & for us fans waiting for info/images to be released.

Personally, I think the "no experience" excuse is a bunch of poppycot. Just because somebody doesn't have a bunch of screen or animation credits to his/her name, does not mean that person will do an incompetent job in the director's chair.

Look at last year's Arthur Christmas, with Sarah Smith's only previous experience being in writing sitcoms and she did a great job on that movie.

I don't know--I don't work in this field--but isn't there some kind of ladder you climb in this business? It seems very weird to jump from no experience to the (co-?)director's chair.

But I'm sure if she were forcibly removed from the film later on (a la Chapman), the excuse will be, "Well, she had no experience, yadda yadda." Very bizarre.

Given that Frozen is apparently having story problems maybe Jennifer Lee has been brought in as co-director mainly to rectify those issues while Chris Buck will handle more of the day-to-day production. At least that's the impression I got from what Peter Del Vecho said:

“Jenn has a real connection to the film and creates dynamic and relatable characters. Her sense of comedy, adventure and story structure paired with Chris Buck’s vast experience and incredible instincts create an ideal situation for this film.”

Unless the film flops I don't think her inexperience as a director will be an issue. It's better to bring in some fresh ideas than shelve the film again and if the film does well then perhaps Lee might have a future as a director at WDAS.

Why would “inexperienced” = “fresh”?

Disney's Divinity wrote:Why would “inexperienced” = “fresh”?

I didn't say nor do I think that, what I said (or at least intended to say) was I don't think her inexperience will be an issue as long as the film does well and maybe her being brought on to the project might bring some fresh ideas that ease some of the troubles the production is rumoured to be having. I didn't say "inexperienced=fresh" so if that's how you interpreted me you misunderstood my intended meaning.