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The general awfulness of the remakes have made me appreciate the DisneyToon sequels much more. I'll take Return to Never Land any day over this.

Oh, yeah, I'd take most of the DTV sequels over the remakes. I'm not too hard on this because, well... There's no Peter Pan adaptation I "love." I don't even like the Disney animated film that much, tbh.... It's one of those stories that everyone knows, and yet I've always found it sort of meh. There is no perfect version to me.

I think the Pan-related film I like the most is actually Hook. Everything else I've ever seen is okay, but sorta dull. The Disney animated film is worse in the sense that it's actively irksome to watch rather than simply dull--Pan, Tinker Bell, Wendy's brothers, the Lost Boys, the mermaids and Native Americans are all VERY irritating. Tik Tok, Nana, Wendy, Hook & Smee, the designs / animation / songs are the good things, but I seldom want to endure those other things to see them.

I honestly don't see why people are so down on Peter Pan and Wendy. It's got a caliber director behind it who made an underrated Disney reimagining in Pete's Dragon, has an interesting cast, and likely will succeed where Mulan failed.

Disney is not making much publicty about this movie and people seem to be tired about the live action movies.

First look at a Lego set based on the movie:


Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/Coj6OQ6r3Ok/


Here are also new stills from a tie-in book. There's one more image on the link I haven't posted, as I think it might be a bit spoilery. It appears to be from the ending and apparently this version ends a bit differently from the original.






Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/ColJ-_YsZ5T/ (via mmdisney200)

D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:19 pm New bits of footage from Peter Pan and Wendy in the DIsney Bundle spot teasing some of the 2023 slate for Disney+ and Hulu: https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1 ... ngjFDAQVBg.

It seems they've kept the iconic Big Ben moment from the original. But, are the children breaking the clock's glass in that shot?

D82 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:32 pmIt appears to be from the ending and apparently this version ends a bit differently from the original.

Another stupid and not believable change a remake makes in a misguided and insulting attempt to "fix" and "correct" the original that ends up making it worse. This is going to be Pinocchio (2022) all over again.

That insipid ending is NOT Peter Pan.
Since I have no plans to watch this travesty, I wish I could “unsee” that last picture...

My Peter Pans are the 1953 Walt Disney classic and the Mary Martin Broadway production.

This is J.M Barrie's original ending, it was Disney who changed it.

It’s the same ending in the musical stage version too, and I think it works there. There’s even a reprise of a particular song there that fits wonderfully!
But if this is “supposed” to be a live action version of the Disney classic animated film, they should have respected that particular ending, imo.
But then again, maybe it’s NOT supposed to be based on the 1953 film but on the original stage play and book.
Either way, I won’t be watching.

I am waiting to watch this magical Neverland in live-action.

carolinakid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:16 am It’s the same ending in the musical stage version too, and I think it works there. There’s even a reprise of a particular song there that fits wonderfully!
But if this is “supposed” to be a live action version of the Disney classic animated film, they should have respected that particular ending, imo.
But then again, maybe it’s NOT supposed to be based on the 1953 film but on the original stage play and book.
Either way, I won’t be watching.

They have three types of remakes:

Type A - remakes which are exactly the same as the originals with minor changes or additions: Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, The Little Mermaid, Pinocchio.

Type B - remakes which are just another adaptation of the source material which the original is based on: Cinderella, The Jungle Book, Mulan.

Type C - remakes which are completely divorced from the originals or their source material: Alice in Wonderland (sort of a sequel I guess), Maleficent, Cruella.

I believe Peter Pan and Wendy is in the second group.

Either way I find it unnecessary.

Thanks, Farerb!
Good to know!
I agree.... I don’t need ANY of ‘em!

TLM is an unfaithful remake like Mulan, imo. But anyway, the Instagram page with the spoilers image was taken down, so I don't know what's being talked about here? Does Tinker Bell or Peter Pan die, is Peter a villain, does Wendy stay in Neverland, does Peter choose to stay with Wendy in London and grow up?

Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:46 am But anyway, the Instagram page with the spoilers image was taken down, so I don't know what's being talked about here?

The fourth image is still available here.

Farerb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:57 pm This is J.M Barrie's original ending, it was Disney who changed it.

Oh, OK. Then I understand why they changed it for this remake. Although, I'm a bit surprised they did, they usually like to make you doubt whether all the adventures in the fantasy world were real or not and now they won't be able to do that.

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:15 am They have three types of remakes:

Type A - remakes which are exactly the same as the originals with minor changes or additions: Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, The Little Mermaid, Pinocchio.

Type B - remakes which are just another adaptation of the source material which the original is based on: Cinderella, The Jungle Book, Mulan.

Type C - remakes which are completely divorced from the originals or their source material: Alice in Wonderland (sort of a sequel I guess), Maleficent, Cruella.

That's true in general, but all of them borrow elements from the original films, even Cinderella, and most of them add some new elements from the original source material as well (even Beauty and the Beast with Maurice picking the rose for Belle, for example). Also, while the stories in type C are very different from the original ones (they're prequels, sequels, spin-offs, "this is the true story" types of films), they wouldn't exist without them (except perhaps Alice in Wonderland). The character of Maleficent, for example, is a Disney creation and is very different in the original fairy tale. I agree that this Peter Pan remake is most likely in the second category, though.

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:11 pm Oh, OK. Then I understand why they changed it for this remake. Although, I'm a bit surprised they did, they usually like to make you doubt whether all the adventures in the fantasy world were real or not and now they won't be able to do that.

I think this is the reason Walt decided to change it. I think he wanted to keep it ambiguous whether it was a dream or real. I remember when I was younger, I saw a version of Peter Pan where each of the Lost Boys return to his own home rather than all of them being adopted by the Darlings.

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:20 pm I think this is the reason Walt decided to change it. I think he wanted to keep it ambiguous whether it was a dream or real. I remember when I was younger, I saw a version of Peter Pan where each of the Lost Boys return to his own home rather than all of them being adopted by the Darlings.

Yes, that's probably why Disney changed it. Also, like Sotiris said, it's not very believable the Darlings would adopt all these children. The Lost Boys returning to their own homes, as in the version you saw, would make more sense, in my opinion.

I agree. I also prefer it, I personally prefer Walt's versions of these stories even if he wasn't completely faithful to them.

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:28 pm

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:20 pm I think this is the reason Walt decided to change it. I think he wanted to keep it ambiguous whether it was a dream or real. I remember when I was younger, I saw a version of Peter Pan where each of the Lost Boys return to his own home rather than all of them being adopted by the Darlings.

Yes, that's probably why Disney changed it. Also, like Sotiris said, it's not very believable the Darlings would adopt all these children. The Lost Boys returning to their own homes, as in the version you saw, would make more sense, in my opinion.

The Darlings were actually a really poor family. That's why they had a dog as a nanny. They didn't even know if they were going to keep Wendy with them because they didn't have enough money. It doesn't have any sense to change the end in order to make it more like in the book but not change that...

I read the book years ago, and don't remember the stuff about the Darlings unsure of they would keep Wendy or adopting the Lost Boys. Were those things in the play or the book or both?

@D82: Ah! Thanks. Personally, I would've liked this ending for the animated film since it ties into "Your Mother and Mine" when Wendy makes everyone nostalgic for the real world after so much madness in Neverland.