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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:37 pm
by ajmrowland
where did you hear about that FFO? Some of us might need a little proof, not that I'd ever believe that so much terrorism exists.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:22 pm
by Super Aurora
ajmrowland wrote:where did you hear about that FFO? Some of us might need a little proof, not that I'd ever believe that so much terrorism exists.
That is true. I read up on same article about it.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:43 am
by dvdjunkie
With all the curve balls being thrown at me and others I thought this little bit of levity would be fun on this Thursday before the Final Debate and Election Day 2012. I do have a sense of humor, so here it is:

From the desk of Herman Cain:

As Lee Habeeb and Mike Leven write, the problem with the president's "profit Problem" is that it's really the Left’s free-enterprise problem.

They brilliantly illustrate this with a trip down the potato chip aisle. Read and send to your friends and even non-friends.

This is critical folks, and this is why Job Creators Solutions and I are working so hard to bring you these facts.

Find out more here: http://www.jobcreatorssolutions.com

And this is the icing on the cake. Use your imagination, if you have one, and have a good laugh on me.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... lee-habeeb

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:04 am
by Mayhem
The "binders full of women" comment is slowly becoming its own meme by the looks of it...

I checked out the debate (it was even broadcast live here in the UK). Romney pretty much dodged any question about where the tax cuts would come from. Both sides were a lot more vicious and confrontational than I expected, especially over the attack on the US consulate. I'd say Obama won that round to bring matters to 1-1 into the decider...

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:05 am
by dvdjunkie
Now that you are through laughing, I think it is time to break out the tissues for all the crying eyes out there. Gallup poll just released these figures and all of the networks are letting the world know that a change is coming.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... -in-swing/

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:47 am
by PatrickvD
Foxnews has been exposed as using nazi propaganda techniques. Every time you post a link to their website, please realize that no sane person reading this topic is ever going to click on it and you're only making yourself look like an easily mislead tool for even visiting their website to begin with.

Thanks.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:22 am
by carolinakid
Obama may have "won" debate #2, but Romney didn't lose any ground.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:46 am
by DisneyAnimation88
carolinakid wrote:Obama may have "won" debate #2, but Romney didn't lose any ground.
True but as fas as I can tell after the two debates, Romney still has yet to clearly explain how some of his policies are going to work.
PatrickvD wrote:Foxnews has been exposed as using nazi propaganda techniques. Every time you post a link to their website, please realize that no sane person reading this topic is ever going to click on it and you're only making yourself look like an easily mislead tool for even visiting their website to begin with.
Quoted for truth though you could say the same about all the sources he posts from, particularly 'Reagan Coalition'; how is a site named after one of the most famous Republican presidents of all time going to provide fair and unbiased coverage?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:33 pm
by dvdjunkie
So if the news doesn't come as you like it, then it must be Nazi run......Is that what you are saying. Man, I thought you chastised me for my ObaMao - Hitler comparison. How's that for the pot (you) calling the kettle (black) Reagan Coalition, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC and all the other opinions given by Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Herman Cain, Neal Boorz and all the others that tell the truth to each one of us who listens. You are way off base if you think that Fox News is NOT fair and balanced. I don't seem them jumping over silly items in the debates that get blown out of proportion by some of the other networks.

Note to Mayhem:
If you watched the same debate that we all did, you have all your facts screwed around. It was Obama who would answer with a straight forward answer. Romney only hedged on one question that I can remember, and it was Obama who dodged all the answers he could when it came to the Libyan affair. Even Candy Crowley has taken back what she said and reversed her opinion saying: 'The President did use the word terror in his explanation, but fell short of calling the attack on Benghazi a 'terrorist' attack.


Any children, your lesson for today comes from those witches on The View, and especially that left-wing biased Whoopi Goldberg. Read it and see if they were fair:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... ast-month/

And yes Patrick this is from Fox News, the only network not afraid to tell it the way it is, no matter what. And it is because of them, that I think you left-wing-libbers are shades to keep you from seeing the truth. No one seems to have an answer about what has Obama done in a positive light in these past 43+ months? I am still waiting for someone to be brave enough to step up and tell four things ObaMao has done that made your life easier or your future brighter. He is ONE and Done and you might as well get out your hankies and let the tears flow. I will be here on November 7th ready to welcome all of your apologies. And - and if I am wrong, I will be here giving you my apologies, but I don't think I will be doing that.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:00 pm
by dvdjunkie
Former President Bill Cllinton had his say today about Obama:

http://www.caintv.com/BillClintonRomney ... conomy-592


Name something that Obama did that didn't fail big-time. His four years were a failed administration and he will go down as the worst President ever. Even worse than Bush!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:31 pm
by PatrickvD
dvdjunkie wrote:And yes Patrick this is from Fox News, the only network not afraid to tell it the way it is, no matter what. And it is because of them, that I think you left-wing-libbers are shades to keep you from seeing the truth. No one seems to have an answer about what has Obama done in a positive light in these past 43+ months? I am still waiting for someone to be brave enough to step up and tell four things ObaMao has done that made your life easier or your future brighter. He is ONE and Done and you might as well get out your hankies and let the tears flow. I will be here on November 7th ready to welcome all of your apologies. And - and if I am wrong, I will be here giving you my apologies, but I don't think I will be doing that.
:lol:

You are delusional. 'ObaMao'? Really? Do you think that's clever? Comparing President Obama to someone who's committed serious crimes against humanity? Please give us more of your delightful plays on words. They're so wonderfully intelligent and thoughtful. They add so much to this topic. [/sarcasm]

Let me explain my disgust for Fox News. Here in Holland we're occasionally treated to 'excerpts' from Fox News on our news channels, because you see, their 'reporters' LOVE to scare American viewers (most of which do not own a passport) into thinking that 'socialist Holland' is like the seventh circle of hell where street gangs run loose and married homosexuals rob your houses and rape your children. Yes that is as hilariously stupid as it sounds.

The reality is that crime rates are lower, the people are wealthier and, gasp, healthier and all of their reports are based on fairytales.

I find comfort in the fact that over here we can all laugh about Fox News's non stop bashing of my country and my people, because if it wasn't so DAMN hilarious, we'd probably be slightly more offended. Seeing as how it is pretty damn offensive.

I also realize they only use Holland, simply as a way to push their extreme conservative agendas on the American people. I mean, it's not as if any of their viewers would ever travel to Amsterdam to see that none of what they've been told is actually happening. A nice and easy scapegoat.

What I'm trying to say is that after years and years of offensive bullshit from Fox News I feel confident in saying that anyone who reads and believes anything they say is an idiotic, brainless sheep who would believe anything. By posting their articles you continue to present yourself as an uneducated stereotype that represents the morals and values for which the entire world despises America.

And seeing as how I am Dutch, cannot vote, have no stakes in this whole election, am neither a democrat nor a republican.... I'm just calling it for what it is: Fox News is for morons. Yes. For morons.

And instead of an interesting thread discussing the issues at hand, it lost all credibility the minute the first link to their site was posted.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:45 pm
by Mayhem
Fox News is regarded here in the UK as many of Murdoch's other assets in his media empire are... deranged, sensationalist, and looking for the next publicity grabbing headline. Anyone aware of the Levinson enquiry has a good idea exactly how we here are fully conscious of what Fox News is like... the TV equivalent of certain newspapers here.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:18 pm
by dvdjunkie
Vice President Joe Biden is at it again. Addressing an assembly of young Republicans:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bid ... 54907.html

And he doesn't think he and Obama have a target on their backs. Look out! November 6th is just around the corner.

Remember:

We Built It!!..........YOU Broke It!!.........WE Will Rebuild it!!

On November 6th - President Obama - YOU ARE FIRED!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:29 pm
by Super Aurora
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ninety-one people including doctors, nurses and other medical professionals were charged criminally in a new sweep of Medicare fraud involving seven U.S. cities and $430 million in alleged false billing, officials said on Thursday.

It was the government's second big raid in recent months after a similar effort in May alleged $452 million in fraud in Medicare, the U.S. health program for the elderly and disabled.

The allegations include billing the government for unnecessary ambulance rides in California, writing prescriptions for patients in Dallas who did not qualify for them and paying kickbacks such as food and cigarettes to patients in Houston if they attended programs a hospital could later bill for.

The investigation is part of an effort by President Barack Obama's administration to find healthcare savings, an issue that also flared during Wednesday's debate between Obama and his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney.

Medicare, a $590 billion program that serves nearly 50 million people, is a primary pot of money for trying to find waste, fraud and abuse.

Indictments against the 91 defendants were unsealed on Thursday after a coordinated investigation led by the U.S. departments of Justice and of Health and Human Services, officials said. Most of the 91 surrendered or were arrested.

Those charged were relatively small-time operators who officials said tried to make a living defrauding Medicare and its sibling program, Medicaid, which insures the poor.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said at a news conference that the sweep should "send a clear message to those perpetrating or contemplating Medicare and Medicaid fraud: It's time to start looking for another line of work."

The examples of fraud "drive up healthcare costs and jeopardize the strength of the Medicare program," said Attorney General Eric Holder, head of the Justice Department.

The government has improved its ability to detect fraud in real time, using software that evaluates reimbursement requests for potential irregularities, officials said.

Of the 91 people charged this week, 33 were involved in false billing in the Miami area. In separate cases, people were accused of improperly billing the government for home health services and mental health services.

Officials said they found an additional $42 million in improper claims at a Houston hospital, Riverside General, where they earlier said they found $116 million in fraud.

That is where officials said there patients received cigarettes and other kickbacks if they attended a "partial hospitalization program." Some patients watched TV instead of receiving services there, the government said.

Riverside General's president was among seven employees facing charges on Thursday. "We're going all the way up and down," said Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, head of the Justice Department's Criminal Division, at the news conference in Washington.

Later on Thursday, a Riverside General clerk read a statement by phone saying the hospital's board is "saddened as to the tactics utilized against this hospital" but supports its president, Earnest Gibson. The board is awaiting legal advice and had no further comment, she said.

The government expects to recoup at least some of what it considers lost money. In a Miami case, the government is restraining $4.6 million in assets including houses and bank accounts, Breuer said.

In addition to fraud and kickback charges, some of the defendants face allegations of identity theft and money laundering.

(Editing by Matthew Lewis, Bernard Orr)
source: http://news.yahoo.com/authorities-charg ... 05068.html

This is how you cut waste, by going after those who are abusing the system, not cutting millions from those desperately need it because they have no other alternatives for healthcare.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:01 pm
by Maerj
I agree with this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HwiRQHc ... r_embedded

Warning though, strong language used throughout, for those who are offended by that sort of thing. He's got a lot of good stuff to say though, I think.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:01 am
by Disney's Divinity
The View interview with Ann Romney was interesting. I guess Mitt is too scared to face 85+ year-old Barbara Walters? rotfl I hope Obama makes some kind of jab during Monday's debate on foreign policy about it--if you can't even deal with the craziness on The View, of all things, how can you possibly be ready to deal with foreign countries?

I also like that Whoopi brought up the military issue, considering Mitt Romney apparently avoided the draft during the Vietnam War (which my grandfather served in, btw) through a mission to Paris, France. How hard it must have been to drive door to door in Paris while his fellow Americans were dying! :lol: But, you know, I don't fault people for wanting to avoid the draft--no, the outrageous part of the story is that Mitt Romney apparently criticized protesters of the Vietnam War. So...a man who avoids what he apparently considered one's duty to the country, but criticizes those who want to keep their own family members from being forced to die in a joke of a war (similar to the Iraq War) is presidential material? Wtf??? :lol:

Also, apparently Mitt Romney was pro-choice at one point, though his wife says he was really pro-life all along (flip-flopping to get a vote, mayhaps? :lol: ). It's also interesting that he also had one of his sons through In-Vitro Fertizilation with a surrogate, with a stipulation that he and his wife could have an abortion if there were any imperfections in the fetus... I guess abortion rights are okay if the husband is in charge? But, let's face it, someone who is anti-birth control is not in the women's camp. How can you blame him though, considering he and his wife have never had to worry about financial repercussions to the birth of a child considering the money they were born into. I couldn't help thinking, when Mrs. Romney noted how spoiled their first granddaughter was--clearly, the entire family is spoiled into ignorance of real issues because of their silver spoon.

Ann Romney seemed nice enough though. I'm sure this is the most she's been allowed outside the house (oops!--houses :P ) by her husband in many years--apparently she is not even allowed the luxury of an opinion, considering her answer to Joy's question was basically she needed to ask Mitt what he thinks about it first. I like how she reveals the basketcase Mitt Romney would be without her there to make him feel better; I'm not sure he'd be able to deal with leadership without having at least one nervous breakdown a month.

Despite it all, I really wouldn't be surprised if Romney did win the next election. After all, we did have 8 years of George Bush, Jr. Anything's possible. :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:41 am
by dvdjunkie
Thank You Disney Divinity for your post. I read every word and even copied and sent it along to some of my friends. It was nice to read someone else's thoughts that haven't been written by someone other than themselves. You brought up so very valid points and I agree with some of it, but I think you missed the reason that I posted that story.

When Michelle Obama was on "The View" the closest thing they go to religion was "Is your husband a romantic?" Don't understand why that question was even asked. Anyway, they never asked the religion question because that would have forced the First Lady to admit that they were 'something other than Christian' and then even Whoopi herself would have looked bad.

Pressing Ann Romney on her religious faith was good to the point, but Whoopi's attacks on her husband were totally uncalled for, and if I was watching the show live, I would have turned it off, because I think that anything that comes out of Whoopi's mouth is slander and full of untruths. She always makes sure she as the last laugh, and I truly think she is drinking the Roseanne Barr Kool-Aid.

Here is something that I woke up to this morning from "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart. His guest was President Obama and it is pretty interesting:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... t-optimal/

Again our 'fearless' leader is skirting the question. How can we trust a President who tries to cover up all his 'failures' by passing the buck. He won't take responsibility for Solyndra, A123, or the attack on our consulate in Benghazi. Monday should be very interesting, and I hope that both candidates come prepared. I think this is going to be the debate that officially wins the election for Obama or for Mitt Romney.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:59 am
by dvdjunkie
This is for Disneyboy 20022 and others with extreme medical issues. Mitt Romney has finally laid out his plan when he gets Obamacare repealed, and it looks really good, and isn't going to cost the American taxpayer $750 million dollars to put into force.

Read this:

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/medica ... ontent=wmr

If you don't see why we need to get rid of Obama and his policies then you must love being a slave to your country rather than a citizen who lives in it.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:28 am
by Mayhem
dvdjunkie wrote:When Michelle Obama was on "The View" the closest thing they go to religion was "Is your husband a romantic?" Don't understand why that question was even asked. Anyway, they never asked the religion question because that would have forced the First Lady to admit that they were 'something other than Christian' and then even Whoopi herself would have looked bad.
Personally, to me, the religion of a candidate should matter jack shit as long as they are competent and do the job they were elected for. I probably hold that view because I'm an atheist. Unfortunately in the US, there is no way that is ever going to happen. I joked before the 2008 election that America would sooner vote in a black man or a woman than a non-Christian, let alone an atheist. It will be interesting to see if being Mormon is enough of an issue with the voters or not in Romney's case.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:51 am
by dvdjunkie
Alan Colmes, left-wing liberal, has made the headlines again calling for Eva Longoria to step down for her position. Read about here:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... p=features


I think Colmes is right in asking for her resignation. He seems to be an on-the-level kind of guy. I listen when he talks.