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Disney Duster wrote: As Cinderella's number one fan here and an artist, too, I would say that clipart is really on-model and there's not much more you could do to make it more on-model. Can you explain or do you feel differently now?

As an animator in training who has much more experience and knowledge on drawing and on-model correctness. I think Swillie's words are much more truthful to take account on than yours, who is barely even an artist to begin with. No offense.

You have a good point about Swillie's training. But you said I have a good eye, too, so... I'll see what he replies.

Haha thanks for the backup SA.

Duster, like I said - it's not that it's flat out bad we've seen much worse in the past on stuff before the 90s... but the drawing is very much "Disney Princess" merchandise style - aka not nearly as "on model" as any of the princesses are in their films. You said it yourself - it's clipart. For clipart, sure - it's fine, I suppose. But I hate to settle for clipart.

In the drawing... yes, they have her features correct and everything is proportionate. But being 'on model' means a lot more than having everything in the right place on the page. The structure and anatomy that we would see in a key animation drawing done by Marc Davis simply isn't there. For example, take a look at this frame from the film:


The anatomy in this drawing in perfect (I'm sure in part due to the fact that it referenced live action). Her eyes and mouth are sitting inside her skull, which sits on top of her neck, which is supported by her torso and shoulders, etc... in comparison, the Diamond cover simply slaps on a pair of generic princess eyes and a fake princess smile. Her hands are at a completely impossible angle with her forearms, unless Cinderella has become double jointed (try that pose, seriously), and her hair looks like a wig sitting on top of her head.

Like I said, I'm not complaining, persay... it's not bad. But it's no Marc Davis. And while those are some high standards, I think Disney should be able to live up to them.

Well, after all that, what I would say it really is is just that she looks less natural and realistic as the film. But that she still could be called very on-model.

But being 'natural and realistic' is part of being 'on model' - at least in Cinderella's case (and any other 'realistic' character like her). That term encompasses more than simply the lines on a page. That's why they are still able to use the term in today's computer animation industry.

Alright. Then I guess what I'm just saying is when people said "What you think she's on model, did you look at her?" was rather an exaggeration because she's still a very good amount on-model, enough to make one of her biggest fans very happy.

Duster everyone knows I'M Cinderella's biggest fan.

You're trying to make some kind of friendly joke with me? I'm not so good at that stuff all the time... : /

YES Duster goodness gracious. You're the Cinderella man.

Goodness gracious is right.

I'm afraid I agree with the people who think the Cinderella on the Diamond cover is off model...

Actually, I think there are two things going on: anatomy is off, AND she is off model.
- The shape of her eyes are incorrect (and also don't match each other... even the direction of the pupils don't match each other)
- her lips are too thin, and the "u" on her top lip is too wide...
- the line thickness is too thin for such a big head as well...
- her sleeves aren't going at the right angle (in the film, you never see any curvature of the shoulder... the sleeves hit EXACTLY over the shoulder)

I actually think the design of it is pretty terrible. I actually thought the PE cover was beautiful, and as on-model as we can hope to get these days. The 80's cover was very much on-model as well... beautiful overall.

German Final Covers with horizontal title:

and a different Cinderella on the DVD cover!!!

Wow ! That looks so different !

A lot of blank space now though on the blu ? I think I prefer the DVD cover in all honestly. I'm not sure if its roots or something, but it looks like there is a vein growing on the Blu cover?!

Also worth noting; amazon.co.uk is still listing this as a 10th December release.

Dosencola wrote:German Final Covers with horizontal title:

That definitely is an improvement for the BD...

The logo on the DVD cover looks so bad though... The Spacing and that border ugh, so square... Very homemade looking... Not nearly as beautifull as the logo for the PE...

I've just noticed the beads that the mice have.......completely the wrong part of the story ?! Eugh, Disney cover artists are irritating.

For the DVD, have they taken the Blu face and tipped it forward ... ?

Dosencola wrote:German Final Covers with horizontal title:

Also in High Resolution.
DVD-Cover in HR

I can't believe they dropped last minute the DVD (from the original Combo Pack) and the slipcover but added instead this stupid "Disney Movies and More"-Logo, which was always a sticker before. -.-
Oh wait, it's Disney...

Old Cover:

Scamander, this may be a silly question, but why is the German title of the film Cinderella? Shouldn't it be Aschenputtel?

Disney Duster wrote:Sico, I agree with you, I love the cover (even though they actually don't really use Cinderella's dress transformation on their covers much either).

Well, maybe not as often as the dance scene, but they used it 3 times (the 1980s VHS cover, the UK cover, and the 2012 DVD). I'm happy to see someone agrees with me. How can you not appreciate the fact that she is the main character on the cover of her film???