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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:32 pm
by yukitora
It bothers me how phallic Pinocchio's nose is.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:21 pm
by DisneyFreak5282
singerguy04 wrote:This is a re-worked version on the original cover art posted, i'm pretty sure that beside the title this is exacty what we're gonna get. In other words it is the final cover art.
Oh, I just assumed it was one of those advertisement versions of the cover art that's printed in flyers/ads and used online.
yukitora wrote: It bothers me how phallic Pinocchio's nose is.
Lol, I wonder if we're gonna have a repeat of TLM's Black Diamond VHS cover incident.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:37 pm
by SpringHeelJack
I heard John Lasseter is going to digitally remove Pinocchio's nose in every scene to tone down the sexual nature of the film. This is particularly explicit in the lying scene.
Also, Gepetto is going to be the first male Disney Princess.
Discuss.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:57 pm
by DisneyFreak5282
SpringHeelJack wrote:I heard John Lasseter is going to digitally remove Pinocchio's nose in every scene to tone down the sexual nature of the film. This is particularly explicit in the lying scene.
Also, Gepetto is going to be the first male Disney Princess.
Discuss.
You know something, with some of the stuff Disney's done in the past (i.e. - edit of TLM PE fixing the priest's "arousal"), I actually wouldn't be surprised at this.
And as for Gepetto - I always knew there was something...

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:29 am
by singerguy04
you know, i was going to try to think of something to go along with Gepetto the Disney Princess but just imagining him stuck in with the rest of the merchandise is comical enough. I can just imagine a Disney Princess Make-up kit featuring Aurora, Belle, and Gepetto. Or maybe even a Gepetto Doll with an alternate lederhosen laced with gold and sparkly gems. He does, after all, come with not only one but two sidekicks with figaro and cleo!
*Edit* I couldn't help myself...

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:57 am
by Old Fish Tale
I love the cover!
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:55 pm
by Disneykid
The tweaked version doesn't bother me that much, even if Pinocchio himself looks a little creepy. My main problem is still the composition. I still don't like how the focal point is the logo on the right hand side. I also hate how Geppetto is being shoved off the cover. Pinocchio and Gepetto on the raft should be removed so that Monstro can take that bottom right-hand side. Shift Jiminy more to the middle, and then you have room to move Geppetto a bit to the right so that his whole head can be seen.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:45 pm
by Matt
The cover looks fine to me as well. As long as the DVD works, I am fine!

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:58 pm
by Big Disney Fan
Matt wrote:The cover looks fine to me as well. As long as the DVD works, I am fine!

And there is a reasonable amount of bonus features.
There is no law that says that the cover of a PE DVD release of a Disney movie has to have the main protagonist(s) on the very top of the cover directly above the title. I don't think the Aladdin PE did this.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:34 pm
by SpringHeelJack
Big Disney Fan wrote:There is no law that says that the cover of a PE DVD release of a Disney movie has to have the main protagonist(s) on the very top of the cover directly above the title. I don't think the Aladdin PE did this.
I never said it HAD to be that way. I said that since all the other ones tended to be "protagonist above title, minor characters beneath" (with the possible exception of "Beauty and the Beast" which stuck to that save for having the title at the top not the middle), it OUGHT to be that way.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:05 pm
by gregmasciola
As a customer, all I really want is for the restoration to be good and a good making of documentary.
I already know the picture quality will be great, but if they are using the same transfer from the UK special edition, some color correction may be necessary. Like someone else said, it seems to have a bit of a bluish tint which kind of takes some of the warmth out of some scenes. If not, changing the tint on my TV seems to help a bit.
As far as the making of, I really hope this DVD doesn't get the Peter Pan treatment. On the Special Edition, there is a "making of" feature, but it's only a few minutes long, so I hope we get a much longer making of.
As a graphic artist, I really think the composition of that cover is bloody awful. Hopefully it's not the final art. I remember Sword In The Stone's cover art was changed quite a bit.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:23 pm
by JDCB1986
I was thinking... Everyone has kind of accepted this 2nd cover as the "2nd draft" But just because it's the one Amazon.com posted, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the one they are going to use. I got to looking at them both and I think it is far more likely that they will use the 1st one (or at least a revised version of that art and layout) Or maybe they will completely revise it yet again...Because I don't see them releasing it with Geppetto's head cut off like that . Also, it's not unheard of for them to do last minute cover changes...The Lion King II's SE was changed at the very last minute. And I want to say Bambi went thru a lot of changes pretty late as well (it may have been something else.)
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:54 pm
by SleepingBeautyAurora
I like the cover art, especially the Blue Fairy.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:36 am
by yukitora
I wonder if they're gonna butcher up the covers of the re-releases.
I wish they'd slap on the movies original posters on these DVDs. All the old Disney film posters look pretty neat. The 90's films could do this too with their John Alvin posters. I know the Japanese DVD treasure box set did this and it looked magnificent.
I know people complained about making the Enchanted DVD cover practically the same as the official promotion posters, but I thought it looked fine.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:26 pm
by gregmasciola
yukitora wrote:I wonder if they're gonna butcher up the covers of the re-releases.
I wish they'd slap on the movies original posters on these DVDs. All the old Disney film posters look pretty neat. The 90's films could do this too with their John Alvin posters. I know the Japanese DVD treasure box set did this and it looked magnificent.
I know people complained about making the Enchanted DVD cover practically the same as the official promotion posters, but I thought it looked fine.
I honestly wouldn't mind if they just put the VHS cover art on this DVD.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:57 pm
by nomad2010
here's a better look at the cover art. not too sure if this exact one has been posted but it definitely looks better.. or at least you get a better sense of it from this.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:11 am
by gregmasciola
That is basically the same design, but it is a little different. And I agree, it actually does look better. Pinocchio doesn't look off model at all (and his nose isn't so dark. Also, Gepetto's head isn't cut off so much. While I'm still not crazy about the composition, I like it much more.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:23 am
by yukitora
gregmasciola wrote:That is basically the same design, but it is a little different. And I agree, it actually does look better. Pinocchio doesn't look off model at all (and his nose isn't so dark. Also, Gepetto's head isn't cut off so much. While I'm still not crazy about the composition, I like it much more.

Comparing the two covers, there seems to be both improvements and well... un-improvements.
the good:
the blue fairy looks less freakish.
gepetto is more on-model.
the cat (I forget his name) actually looks like how he appears in the movie, and his eyes no longer point at different directions.
jiminy cricket doesn't look like a disturbing old man
monstro looks really scary! although that might be a bad thing.
The bad:
gepetto seems to be cut out of the cover.
pinocchio and his apple received some weird transformation. I thought he was pretty on-model the first time round. I haven't seen the movie in awhile, but I like the original cover better.
pinocchio's nose seems somehow less phallic.
The ugly:
the cover in general.
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:13 am
by gregmasciola
yukitora wrote:The bad:
gepetto seems to be cut out of the cover.
pinocchio and his apple received some weird transformation. I thought he was pretty on-model the first time round. I haven't seen the movie in awhile, but I like the original cover better.
pinocchio's nose seems somehow less phallic.
The ugly:
the cover in general.
Hopefully that text covering Gepetto won't actually be on the cover art (maybe it will just be a sticker).
If you compare the newer art with the VHS cover I posted, that is the same picture of Pinocchio's face, so I still think it looks better than the previous one.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:04 am
by Jack Skellington
So how many people will be buying the Bluray ?
I know I will, I saw the trailer in the SB Bluray and it looked amazing even better than the Sleeping Beauty restoration.