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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:01 am
by Isidour
hey, after all, the important thing isd to got the message and undertsand it isn´t? :)

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:01 pm
by Nala
Alan wrote:After seeing Pocahontas again, I don't think its bad, its quite good. Why do not a lot of people like it, thats how I don't understand
Maybe for the same reasons you don't like Bambi.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:24 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
I don't know how we got off comparing Bambi to Pocahontas but Bambi is one of the greatest films ever made. Pocahontas, on the other hand, is a bad movie.

Pocahontas has awful music, so-so characters and a boring story. The movie doesn't offer anything really interesting and it also was the beginning of the fall of traditional animation. The only good part was Meeko.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:28 pm
by Alan
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:I don't know how we got of comparing Bambi to Pocahontas but Bambi is one of the great films ever made. Pocahontas is a bad movie.

Pocahontas has awful music, so-so character and a boring story. It doesn't offer much interesting and it also was the beginning of the fall of traditional animation. The only good part was meeko.
Even though you hate pocahontas, do you have the 10th aniversary DVD with the slipcover?

You must be kidding when you say Pocahontas is boring and Bambi isn't. I cried during the end of Pocahontas. The ending of Bambi was like...blah

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:31 pm
by Nala
Alan wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:I don't know how we got of comparing Bambi to Pocahontas but Bambi is one of the great films ever made. Pocahontas is a bad movie.

Pocahontas has awful music, so-so character and a boring story. It doesn't offer much interesting and it also was the beginning of the fall of traditional animation. The only good part was meeko.
Even though you hate pocahontas, do you have the 10th aniversary DVD with the slipcover?

You must be kidding when you say Pocahontas is boring and Bambi isn't. I cried during the end of Pocahontas. The ending of Bambi was like...blah
Alan, this Bambi bashing is going too far. Neither Bambi nor Pochantas are boring. Bambi was the fifth animated classics that Disney put out. Which out of the first five animated classics (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo and Bambi) do you like?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:33 pm
by Disney-Fan
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Pocahontas has awful music
I get hot headed whenever I read that line (no offence). It has its flaws, yes. But to call the music bad? It may not be catchy but it's deep and different from ordinary Disney!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:36 pm
by Sunset Girl
DisneyFan 2000 wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Pocahontas has awful music
I get hot headed whenever I read that line (no offence). It has its flaws, yes. But to call the music bad? It may not be catchy but it's deep and different from ordinary Disney!
Exactly. I feel that Pocahontas is deeply underappreciated.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:36 pm
by Pasta67
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:I don't know how we got of comparing Bambi to Pocahontas
It all started with this very random post:
Alan wrote:I think Pocahontas is better than Bambi.
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:it also was the beginning of the fall of traditional animation. The only good part was meeko.
And Flit! Flit was awesome!
I think saying Pocahontas was the reason the entire traditional animation industry went down the drain is a little harsh, not to mention exaggerated. Traditional animation isn't as popular because computer animation is here now and people like going to see those because it's a newer media. People probably think: "Why would I go pay to see a hand-drawn movie when I can watch one on TV for free?" I think that's why Howl's Moving Castle has only made $1.42 million so far. Pocahontas isn't and will never be the reason hand-drawn animation isn't so popular now.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:39 pm
by Alan
Nala wrote:
Alan wrote: Even though you hate pocahontas, do you have the 10th aniversary DVD with the slipcover?

You must be kidding when you say Pocahontas is boring and Bambi isn't. I cried during the end of Pocahontas. The ending of Bambi was like...blah
Alan, this Bambi bashing is going too far. Neither Bambi nor Pochantas are boring. Bambi was the fifth animated classics that Disney put out. Which out of the first five animated classics (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo and BAmbi) do you like?
I think this Pocahontas bashing has gone TOO far also!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:40 pm
by Disney-Fan
Lets just all live in harmony and bash Cinderella II! :D

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:44 pm
by Pasta67
DisneyFan 2000 wrote:Lets just all live in harmony and bash Cinderella II! :D
"Kum Ba Yah, my lord, Cinderella II is terrible. Kum Ba Yah......." :D

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:58 pm
by Nala
Alan wrote:
Nala wrote: Alan, this Bambi bashing is going too far. Neither Bambi nor Pochantas are boring. Bambi was the fifth animated classics that Disney put out. Which out of the first five animated classics (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo and Bambi) do you like?
I think this Pocahontas bashing has gone TOO far also!
Alan, you didn't answer the second half of my question.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:58 pm
by Pasta67
Alan wrote:Even though you hate pocahontas, do you have the 10th aniversary DVD with the slipcover?
1. Does that really matter?! :angry:
Alan wrote:You must be kidding when you say Pocahontas is boring and Bambi isn't. I cried during the end of Pocahontas. The ending of Bambi was like...blah
2. OK this goes for everyone, we all have different opinions about different movies. Some people dislike Bambi, that's fine. Some people dislike Pocahontas, that's also fine. This thread is about what movie we personally think is the worst and we are all just naming which one we think is bad. But you're supposed to give a reasonable opinion why. Some people just said a movie was boring or that the music was bad and that's what started all this bashing.

:frog: (I've wanted to use this smilie for so long.) :lol:

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:04 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
DisneyFan 2000 wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Pocahontas has awful music
I get hot headed whenever I read that line (no offence). It has its flaws, yes. But to call the music bad? It may not be catchy but it's deep and different from ordinary Disney!
I thought the music was overrated! I can't believe Colors of the Wind won the Oscar for best song! Toy Story was robbed!

I mean if you compare it to other great Disney songs, it doesn't compare:

Unfortunate Souls v.s. The Mob Song v.s. Prince Ali(revised)v.s. Be Prepared v.s. Savages

Part of Your World v.s. Beauty and the Beast v.s. A Whole New World v.s. Can You Feel the Love Tonight v.s. Colors of the Wind

Under the Sea v.s. Be Our Guest v.s Friend Like Me v.s. Hakuna Matata v.s What's Around the Riverbend

I think Pocahontas is the weekest in all those rounds!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:30 pm
by Nala
For the life of me, I don't understand why people buy DVDs of movies they hate. It's just a waste of money. If people don't know if they'll like a movie or not, rent it first.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:16 pm
by Alan
OK. I do not like bambi because of its horrible music, boring plot. I can't give a more detailed explanation because thats basically how I felt! ITs the same reason why people on THIS THREAD think that Pocahontas is bad. On a happier note, I just got 20 dollars gift certificate to best buy, so I'll be buying Alice in Wonderland there :)

And I've never seen Dumbo or Fantasia, or pinnochio for like ten years, so I'll just go with Snow white[/b]

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:49 pm
by SuicideSeaside
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:
DisneyFan 2000 wrote: I get hot headed whenever I read that line (no offence). It has its flaws, yes. But to call the music bad? It may not be catchy but it's deep and different from ordinary Disney!
I thought the music was overrated! I can't believe Colors of the Wind won the Oscar for best song! Toy Story was robbed!
I think Colors of the Wind won because it was a unique song. Not many songs are about nature and the earth. The lyrics were also creatively written with deep meanings. It had poetic and artistic lyrics instead of catchy lines and hooks. I think the same things goes for Hunchback's soundtrack. :)

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:54 pm
by Zoltack
Bambi is the greatest Disney movie of all times, even if you don't think it is. End of story. I haven't seen Poca-joe-haunt-us so I'm not gonna make any conjectures.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:20 pm
by Alan
Zoltack wrote:Bambi is the greatest Disney movie of all times, even if you don't think it is. End of story. I haven't seen Poca-joe-haunt-us so I'm not gonna make any conjectures.
You shouldn't judge a movie by calling "Poca-joe-haunt-us" if you've never seen it before. Just because other people don't like it doesn't you won't like it

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:21 pm
by Isidour
Alan wrote:OK. I do not like bambi because of its horrible music, boring plot. I can't give a more detailed explanation because thats basically how I felt! ITs the same reason why people on THIS THREAD think that Pocahontas is bad. On a happier note, I just got 20 dollars gift certificate to best buy, so I'll be buying Alice in Wonderland there :)

And I've never seen Dumbo or Fantasia, or pinnochio for like ten years, so I'll just go with Snow white[/b]
HORRIBLE MUSIC! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Curse you!

You haven´t even watch the real Disney and you dare to proclaim which music or movie is the best?
Pocahontas, is just a pile of crap compared to the very first Disney movies, because they maked history, they keep a legacy in the minds of the generations.
Ask anyone about Disney movies and from 10, 8 will be from the early Disney and one of this will be Bambi and not Pocahontas.

How many people remember that movie?how many remmeber the ending or the love that shared Smith and Pocahontas? but ask people about Bambi and the fisrt thing will say you is "Bambi´s mother death". That´s what make it better, a part that is keeped on all people´s mind.
And I talk about people who have seen Disney movies, and not little brats who thinks that Eminem and any raper or some dude that appear on a nc-17 rated movie saying f* words and stuff every 5 minuts is a good role model to follow.

think about all what had influence on the succes of a movie and not only "I fell like" speech before judjing young man.