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Posted: **Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:58 pm**

SwordInTheStone777 wrote:
MadasaHatter wrote:
And the Map of Oz:

via: http://www.rte.ie/ten/2013/0211/ozthegr ... erful.html
That map is wrong as all Oz fans know that Munchkinland is in the East not West.

While most of us Oz fans accept Munchkin Country to be in the eastern region of Oz, throughout the books it was occasionally represented in the west as shown in this map from Tik-Tok of Oz; which is not far off from the Disney one:

From Wikipedia:

West and East
The first known map of Oz was a glass slide used in Baum's Fairylogue and Radio-Play traveling show, showing the blue land of the Munchkins in the east and the yellow land of the Winkies in the west. These directions are confirmed by the text of all of Baum's Oz books, especially the first, in which The Wicked Witch of the East rules over the Munchkins, and The Wicked Witch of the West rules over the Winkies.
Like traditional western maps, the Fairylogue and Radio-Play map showed the west on the left, and the east on the right. However, the first map of Oz to appear in an Oz book had those directions reversed, and the compass rose adjusted accordingly.[21] It is believed that this is a result of Baum copying the map from the wrong side of the glass slide, effectively getting a mirror image of his intended map. When he realized he was copying the slide backward, he reversed the compass rose to make the directions correct. However, an editor at Reilly and Lee reversed the compass rose, thinking he was fixing an error, and resulting in further confusion.[22] Most notably, this confused Ruth Plumly Thompson, who frequently reversed directions in her own Oz books as a result.
Another speculation stems from the original conception of Oz, which at first appeared to be situated in an American desert. If Baum thought of the country of the Munchkins as the nearest region to him, it would have been in the east while he lived in Chicago, but when he moved to California, it would have been in the west.[23]
Modern maps of Oz are almost universally drawn with the Winkies in the west and the Munchkins in the east, although west and east often appear reversed. Many Oz fans believe this is the correct orientation, perhaps as a result of Glinda's spell, which has the effect of confusing most standard compasses; perhaps resembling its similarity to the world Alice found through the looking glass in which everything was a mirror image; or perhaps just reflecting the alien nature of Oz. In Robert A. Heinlein's book The Number of the Beast he posits that Oz is on a retrograde planet, meaning that it spins in the opposite direction of Earth so that the sun seems to rise on one's left as one faces north. March Laumer's The Magic Mirror of Oz attributes the changes to a character named Till Orangespiegel attempting to turn the Land of Oz orange.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Oz#West_and_East

Also, while the film is taking notes from the books and the '39 film, Raimi and Co. are really writing their own story here which is an amalgamation of previous sources and original ideas. It's not a religious adherence to any one particular source of 'Oz' info. So, it really is their prerogative to shift things about as they wish and in this case, they have a valid argument given the conflicting history in the books.

Posted: **Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:02 pm**

Yea I was wondering why East was right and West was left!

Posted: **Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:30 pm**

Disney Duster wrote:Yea I was wondering why East was right and West was left!

That's how it's supposed to be, Duster.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:21 pm**

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:20 pm**

SWillie! wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:Yea I was wondering why East was right and West was left!
That's how it's supposed to be, Duster.

Oh. I was thinking of how we say "North, South, East, West".

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:48 pm**

Zach Braff is in costume in one scene. Not sure if that's a spoiler, but it looks like he will play a regular role in the opening scene in Kansas as well as the CGI monkey.

I miss Braff in film/TV. So I'm glad to see him in such a big project.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:10 pm**

PatrickvD wrote:Zach Braff is in costume in one scene. Not sure if that's a spoiler, but it looks like he will play a regular role in the opening scene in Kansas as well as the CGI monkey.

I miss Braff in film/TV. So I'm glad to see him in such a big project.

Of course the last time we saw him in a Disney Film was....

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:24 pm**

And Zach as Chicken Little was the least of that film's problems. In fact, he was the best thing about it. It was everything else that was painful.

Posted: **Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:52 pm**

PatrickvD wrote:Zach Braff is in costume in one scene. Not sure if that's a spoiler, but it looks like he will play a regular role in the opening scene in Kansas as well as the CGI monkey.

Yes he will! It has been confirmed along with Joey King's Character and even Michelle Williams character!

Posted: **Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:56 pm**

DisneyDude2010 wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Zach Braff is in costume in one scene. Not sure if that's a spoiler, but it looks like he will play a regular role in the opening scene in Kansas as well as the CGI monkey.
Yes he will! It has been confirmed along with Joey King's Character and even Michelle Williams character!

Thanks. I'm very excited about this film. It looks spectacular.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:09 am**

AHHH THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST!
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dmWVDmz8QN4" frameborder="0"></iframe>

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:09 am**

It just keeps looking better and better!

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:15 pm**

Indeed....Oz looks familiar and the Wicked Witch looks pretty awesome, hope they have made her pretty dark

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:26 pm**

I love Disney's frail attempt to mask who the wicked witch of the west is. I mean, the pre-screen shot of that video is of Rachel Weisz standing next to the wicked witch...

Posted: **Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:25 am**

First clip

Posted: **Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:11 am**

Wow, I really felt sympathetic for Theodora, Kunis is a remarkable actress!

There is also a James Franco Interview/Clip I forgot to share

Posted: **Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:46 pm**

There is an oz balloon getting ready to fly over Disneyland Paris !! Is this where the UK premiere will be ?!

Posted: **Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:31 pm**

PatrickvD wrote:And Zach as Chicken Little was the least of that film's problems. In fact, he was the best thing about it. It was everything else that was painful.

it wasn't even really painful, but it did have plenty of bad about it.

He might be the guy who tosses the Wizard his hat in the storm.

Posted: **Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:51 am**

Oz the Great and Powerful Scans from Oz the Great and Powerful: the Movie Storybook.

Posted: **Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:32 am**

Wow! I think she looks great!

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