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ichabod wrote:Am I the only one that likes it?

(And this is coming from someone who usually hates BOTH Tim Burton AND Johnny Depp!)

Yup. I LOVE this. it's like macabre horror Alice in Wonderland. Hopefully Wonderland itself will be bright over the top colorful. That would be a nice twist.

Wow, I actually really like that design. It sets itself apart from other Hatters in that most of them look fairly normal. Johnny's certainly does not. The creepy contacts are, I think, my favorite aspect. They make him colder, other-worldly, and less approachable. A part of me hopes the other Wonderland residents look this bizarre, and a part of me doesn't because if they're all this demented-looking, the viewer could grow desensitized, and then the designs lose their punch. Let's see if Burton can find differnet levels of wackiness for the other characters so that there's variety.

I guess this confirms that the human characters will be live, afterall, and that it's the environment and animal characters that'll be CG.

Disneykid wrote:Wow, I actually really like that design. It really sets itself apart from other Hatters in that most of them look fairly normal. Johnny's certainly does not. A part of me hopes the other Wonderland residents look this bizarre, and a part of me doesn't because if they're all this demented-looking, the viewer could grow desensitized, and then the designs lose their punch. Let's see if Burton can find a happy medium for other characters.

I guess this confirms that the human characters will be live, afterall, and that it's the environment and animal characters that'll be CG.

personally i think an off combination of this bizarre macabre look, with some over the top charlie and the chocolate factory-ish, overlay vibrant surreal background, a real mash up between the two could do it. they'd have to tread a fine line not to go into speed racer mode but it could be very distinctive having dull clothed, pale skinned creepy people in an overly beautiful almost artificial environment.

Strange!

I'm actually really ecstatic that there will be actual live-action, as opposed to CG characters. I'm sure I'll eventually warm up to Depp's costume.

Wow....the pic blew me away and impressed me....yet I'm gon'na fondly remember the animated Mad Hatter, Johnny Depp looks alil bit on the disturbin side yet there's a interesting aspect to it

I remember similar reactions to when we first saw Depp as Wonka. God forbid Johnny shouldn't look "sexy". I think the design is great, because Depp is playing the Mad Hatter. The Mad Hatter isn't play Depp.
The make-up design is unexpected, but very Burton. He looks very much like the Mad Hatter, save no exaggerated, caricature face. Which may be the reason for the make-up.

For comparison...
The original design of the Mad Hatter as visioned by Carroll himself.


Hat, check.
Funky hair. Check
Big tacky bowtie, Check.


I'm sorry, what's to hate about the design? He is being true to the original book...

Siren wrote:Hat, check.
Funky hair. Check
Big tacky bowtie, Check.

And though the pic doesn't show it: buck teeth, check (reports have said Johnny wears them for this)

People who hate the design should keep in mind that it's going to look slightly different when captured on film. This pic is grainy and under flat lighting. You may just change your mind when you see it properly color-timed and in digital 3-D.

Disneykid wrote:

Siren wrote:Hat, check.
Funky hair. Check
Big tacky bowtie, Check.

And though the pic doesn't show it: buck teeth, check (reports have said Johnny wears them for this)

People who hate the design should keep in mind that it's going to look slightly different when captured on film. This pic is grainy and under flat lighting. You may just change your mind when you see it properly color-timed and in digital 3-D.

Cool about the buck teeth. Didn't know they stuck to that and glad they did. And I agree, it will look a LOT different on the film.

My only gripe is the makeup, which I didn't expect at all. The costume itself is fine.

Did anyone notice the fact that he might be holding the march hare in his arms?

Yeah, I wonder what that is about. And his very bandaged thumb too. Perhaps the March Hare or the Dormouse gives him a nasty bite?

Also, I wouldn't so much call that a screencap. It's a make-up costume test more likely. And/or promo shot. Was watching the Hellboy 2 special features and much of the beginning of the making of, was very much having those tests.

That's not Johnny Depp in that photo, that's Ziggy Stardust!

I think Jim Carry would have been a better choice for this role.

That rabbit he's holding isn't the March Hare, is it?

I don't think so. Like Siren said, this is more than likely just a wardrobe and make up test, and if so, then the rabbit's just a prop (maybe to see how the costume looks next to brown fur?). I'm 99.9% the March Hare will be a CG character voiced by a yet-to-be-announced actor. The whole motion capture 3-D aspect would seem pointless otherwise.

Barbossa wrote:That's not Johnny Depp in that photo, that's Ziggy Stardust!

I think Jim Carry would have been a better choice for this role.

Jim Carrey ?He plays the same character in every film... An overly obnoxious man who makes strange faces attempting to grab a cheap laugh.

I think Depp's Hatter costume looks great... It wasn't what I was expecting he would look like, but it looks great !!

^and yet he still sells tickets.

That rabbit looks a lot like mine. Anyhow, a little disappointed. He doesn't come across as mad, but rather somewhat murderous.

But it's just a random picture, not a publicity photo, so its no real look into what the Mad Hatter's character will be like.

Hm...the picture...the thing is, Burton has done black (with white) so many times for everything...Wonderland is supposed to be wacky and colorful, it's colorful in the "varied" and "characterful" sense of the word, the opposite of gray and boring...though this design is different from what we've seen for Wonderland before...then again, I'm sure countless "dark" and gothic people have made every Alice character look dark and gothic before.

I just wish he didn't look so deathly. He is mad, not, murdurous, as someone here said......? It's supposed to be about making Alice crazy, torturing her with insanity, not killing her, though I suppose the madness could rive her to suicide. I'm trying to find meaning, or simply a good reason for this death black and skeleton white (only because I don't much like or "get" the design, if I did I wouldn't need it to have any "meaning"!) I could understand darkness, and brown, because it would match the idea of Wonderland being underground, also thought of and explored a little by Mary Blair!

He does have some brown...UH! What if the idea is Alice is underground...with people buried underground?! And if Burton was influenced by that Alice film with the dead stuffed rabbit...

Disneykid, well, what do you think, and also, what was it that said the actors would be mo-capped? I swear there really was something confirming that some human characters would be CGI...? Though I like them not being CGI...though, like you said, everything in CGI other than Alice would alienate her further to cool effect.

Anyone else think the Mad Hatter could be a distant cousin to Rocky Horror's Magenta? Just look at that hair and the deathly-pale skin!



I think Johnny has more make-up, though.

albert

Escapay wrote:Anyone else think the Mad Hatter could be a distant cousin to Rocky Horror's Magenta? Just look at that hair and the deathly-pale skin!



I think Johnny has more make-up, though.

albert

Actually, if you take off the hat and hair, Johnny kind of looks like the Supreme Leader Anjelica Huston played in Captain EO.

I like johnny's weirdness but after seeing that photo, I'm frightened . So Johnny should work he's usual wierdly brilliant magic to make the character his own & do the part brilliantly! I just hope the character is more friendly than the make up makes him look.