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FantasiaMan wrote:The spanish cover has a shade of red, too red for my taste, and it's slightly brighter

Hmm? I don't see too much red, unless you mean the bit on the back cover (the specifications). That's a bit seizure-enducing with the alternating bright red and bright orange.

The cover itself maybe has a little too much tan all huddled together on the right side but other than that I think it's a cute cover (the tan isn't even that big an issue).

http://www.disney.co.uk/DisneyVideos/bambi/home.html

Click on DVD Extras. There's more information on the art galleries. They seem to be substantial, including a narrated art review.

One thing about the European versions etc, is the actual logo is *far* superior to the R1 version. The leaves, the acorns, looks way better than the other version with just some lines around the title.

I prefer the US cover with the European "Bambi" symbol.
I just saw the litho set today on the disney store website. Is there a way to order that off a link from this site to give UD our support, I wonder?

disneywb wrote:I prefer the US cover with the European "Bambi" symbol.
I just saw the litho set today on the disney store website. Is there a way to order that off a link from this site to give UD our support, I wonder?

No, Disney Store cancelled our affiliateship when we moved to UltimateDisney.com. Apparently, 1) you can't be a affiliate if you have a message board and 2) you can't be an affiliate if you have "Disney" in your address.

The thought is appreciated, anyway!

Luke wrote:

disneywb wrote:I prefer the US cover with the European "Bambi" symbol.
I just saw the litho set today on the disney store website. Is there a way to order that off a link from this site to give UD our support, I wonder?

No, Disney Store cancelled our affiliateship when we moved to UltimateDisney.com. Apparently, 1) you can't be a affiliate if you have a message board and 2) you can't be an affiliate if you have "Disney" in your address.

The thought is appreciated, anyway!

Guess thats what you get when you try to help someone

I'm so pissed there will be no giftset, even tough they were very poor.

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=56032

First UK online review?

This 2-disc Platinum Edition is the first ever release of Bambi on DVD. Presented in its original Academy aspect ratio, the film looks decent overall but has been subjected to an extremely rigorous digital clean-up process that produces some rather nasty artefacts. Chief among these is the fact that large areas of the screen look unnaturally static, frozen in much the same way that the "pause" function works. Fine grain patterns frequently jar, only to abruptly begin moving again, creating a noticeably disconcerting effect. Furthermore, in a number of shots, parts of the screen that should be static "swim", with parts of stationary backgrounds seeming to slide around.

While Bambi has tended to be somewhat overrated, it remains an important milestone in animation history and is presented here on a 2-disc DVD set that is, for the most part, very satisfying. Although the amount of digital tomfoolery that has been applied to the transfer is quite saddening, the quality of (most of) the bonus materials is top notch. Overall, I highly recommend this latest addition to the Platinum series.

I can't believe that that Michael Mackenzie is again bashing a DisneyToon Studios sequel. He hasn't even seen the movie yet! I can get really mad about these things... He's just blind

Hi:

It haven´t been released in Europe already??

becuase if it doesn´t, I think than the Latin american release will be the very first of all(only 13 days more )

I don't know if I've posted in this topic yet, but I just want to say I'm excited! I've never seen Bambi before! I wish Disney would just make one good cover that they'd use for all the regions.

Isidour wrote:Hi:

It haven´t been released in Europe already??

becuase if it doesn´t, I think than the Latin american release will be the very first of all(only 13 days more )

Europe (well, the UK anyhow, I don't know about all of Europe) as the same release day: February 14th.

I've updated the <i>Bambi</i> preview page with some stills from "Inside Walt's Story Meetings." While it's pretty obvious that video and audio will be needed for the full effect, these at least show some of the tactics which will be employed for this commentary replacement (split screen, overlays, etc.).

Check out the update on the Bambi preview page.

Just thought that I'd tell you that I saw a TV advert for the DVD last night. The Restoration looks fantastic.

I was watching the Snow White Platinum Edition yesterday and I still can't help but feel that none of the subsequent Platinum Editions approached that level of quality that Snow White had. While this Bambi story meeting special, the documentary, and the art review sounds wonderful, I still can't help but be disappointed at the use of DVD space for games and other throwaway extras that could be used for better purpose. Didn't the LD of Bambi have an isolated music-only and sound effects audio track?

Tascar wrote:I was watching the Snow White Platinum Edition yesterday and I still can't help but feel that none of the subsequent Platinum Editions approached that level of quality that Snow White had. While this Bambi story meeting special, the documentary, and the art review sounds wonderful, I still can't help but be disappointed at the use of DVD space for games and other throwaway extras that could be used for better purpose. Didn't the LD of Bambi have an isolated music-only and sound effects audio track?

Bambi seems to have the most games so far, but seriously who the heck plays games w/ their remote?? Probably all the infants already have a playstation or something. What a waste.

hi:

geez!

I' one of a kind. . .

anyway,I get fun and if don't I play my Xbox

Jens wrote:I can't believe that that Michael Mackenzie is again bashing a DisneyToon Studios sequel. He hasn't even seen the movie yet! I can get really mad about these things... He's just blind

With all due respect to you, I really can see where Michael Mackenzie is coming from and I have to agree with his comments. I have great respect for animators such as Andreas Deja and the ones working at DisneyToon Studios, but the work coming out of them, just simply does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with the original films.

I have seen Mulan II (bootleg DVD rips have been circulating around the Internet for over two months now) and it is truly a godawful film. And while the artwork released and the participation of Andreas Deja on the Bambi sequel is giving me hope, I am also prepared to be very disappointed when I see the final product and based on their track record, I see no reason to be very skeptical.

I am sure that DisneyToon Studios has the potential to do great things. But as long as they are being confined to creating cheap derivative work by a management that is content to make mediocrity, there are severe limits to which the studio and its work will shine.

2099net wrote:http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=56032

First UK online review?

This 2-disc Platinum Edition is the first ever release of Bambi on DVD. Presented in its original Academy aspect ratio, the film looks decent overall but has been subjected to an extremely rigorous digital clean-up process that produces some rather nasty artefacts. Chief among these is the fact that large areas of the screen look unnaturally static, frozen in much the same way that the "pause" function works. Fine grain patterns frequently jar, only to abruptly begin moving again, creating a noticeably disconcerting effect. Furthermore, in a number of shots, parts of the screen that should be static "swim", with parts of stationary backgrounds seeming to slide around.

Incidentally, I noticed this problem with my laserdisk copy of the film as well. Basically what it seemed like was that the restoration team just took stills of every background plate, cleaned it up, and then separately cleaned-up (almost seemed like they were repainting it) the character elements, and then remarrying the images back together. And indeed it does seem odd cause the background looks like it is on permanent pause at times. Too bad they didn't change this for the new restoration.

I had quite a similar reply to yours, Tascar, but it was deleted in the hacker crash. In lieu of typing another long paragraph, I'll just say I fully agree with you.

EDIT: Found it from my offline history pages! w00t.
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Jens wrote:I can't believe that that Michael Mackenzie is again bashing a DisneyToon Studios sequel. He hasn't even seen the movie yet! I can get really mad about these things... He's just blind

Jens, you've got to understand that these statements (and yes, even prejudices) against these cheapquels do not translate as an insult on the people that made them. As Mackenzie said, he's reviewing an end product, not passing judgement on the "nice people on the crew who worked so hard on it." There is no doubt that the DisneyToons crew is talented and hard-working, but they also have no power to control what type of projects they work on. It would be very nice to see them be able to create their own original stories without executive intervention and micro-management, but sadly, that's not the case. They do work very hard on what they're given, but alas, they are not allowed to change the story - at least to anything above "banal."

I think Mackenzie responded quite thoroughly and eloquently to your feedback on that review page, and explained his case very well. The cheapquels do have a record of mediocrity, and the odds are stacked against Bambi II being anything spectacular. But Mackenzie admitted it himself - he (as well as I) will gladly be proven wrong if this cheapquel turns out, storywise, to be great. But again, the criticism leveled at the cheapquels is for the films, and the films alone; it's not meant as an insult against DisneyToons, or Andreas Deja, or anyone involved in the crew. It's the Men In Suits - those clueless execs in upper management, who greenlight, and at the same stunt the growth of, these projects - who are to be blamed.

Ahh Paka good thing that you rescued such a lengthy and throrough post
Here are some more Bambi rescues:

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RJKD23
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 342
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:22 pm


Thanks for the update Luke!

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Isidour
Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 328
Location: Guadalajara Jalisco México.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:26 pm


Hi:

Thamks Luke

Fortunately, I only have to wait 12 more days to see it on my tv room and in my very own DVDs rack

man, I can´t wait to have it on my very own hands

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FantasiaMan
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Posts: 40
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:09 pm


The Walt's Story Meetings feature makes me more excited about the dvd, but I'm also kind of disappointed about it because the commentary sounds too confusing. The commentary on Snow White was fine, with Walt speaking and additional info by the great John Canemaker, but this one seems to leave out John. He talks about the animators, voice actors, and behind-the-scene-like material that make the movies more interesting to watch. You learn things you never knew about the films.

But I also think that this feature is great. It's totally different from anything ever in dvd history. The screens look pretty weird with all the clutter and such, but I think this will probably be the most astounding feature on the whole dvd.

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*Andy*
Joined: 24 Nov 2004
Posts: 173
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:36 pm

Does anyone know does the UK get a slipcover?

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*Andy*
Joined: 24 Nov 2004
Posts: 173
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:44 pm

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmggggg just seen the advert advertising the Bambi 2 disc special edition! It looks soooooo nice!

Tascar wrote:With all due respect to you, I really can see where Michael Mackenzie is coming from and I have to agree with his comments. I have great respect for animators such as Andreas Deja and the ones working at DisneyToon Studios, but the work coming out of them, just simply does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with the original films.

That's where you're wrong. In the review Michael clearly said that it's sad that Andreas Deja is working on the Bambi sequel. Now, why is that so sad? I think it's incredible that he has such strong principles that he would rather work on a handdrawn movie than a CGI movie. Michael might have said that he has "respect" for the animator afterwards, but seeing his hate for the DTV titles I don't think he has that much respect anyways... Don't forget that Andreas Deja is only doing his job in the bussiness of animation. I don't think it's sad that he went to work at the DisneyToon Studios. It gives me even more hope for future releases!

Tascar wrote:I have seen Mulan II (bootleg DVD rips have been circulating around the Internet for over two months now) and it is truly a godawful film.

Well, everyone has a very different opinion about it so I see... I think your final opinion about it depends on a lot of factors like when you see it (maybe on a bad monday?) and how you see it (open-minded or narrow-minded). I do care that people won't see the little greatness in this film, but I just can't change someone's mind when he watched the movie narrowminded. You know that when I saw The Lion King 1 1/2 I thought it really sucked? I really didn't like it because I thought it was going to be a more serious movie... I watched it openminded some months after, and I loved it. That proves a lot...

Tascar wrote:And while the artwork released and the participation of Andreas Deja on the Bambi sequel is giving me hope, I am also prepared to be very disappointed when I see the final product and based on their track record, I see no reason to be very skeptical.

There you go... I'm also prepared to be very dissapointed in the Bambi sequel. But that's where I actually have more hope than you and Michael Mackenzie. He's seeing the track level of the DisneyToon Studios as horrible... Well, I have seen a great level raise in both their animation and story. It's not fully perfect, but I think especially with Andreas Deja we will be expecting a great movie. But like you, I'm also prepared to be dissapointed.... I just don't show it in public a lot, as I want to support people to give the sequels a chance at least.

Tascar wrote:I am sure that DisneyToon Studios has the potential to do great things. But as long as they are being confined to creating cheap derivative work by a management that is content to make mediocrity, there are severe limits to which the studio and its work will shine.

The DisneyToon Studios are doing great work animationwise, and it won't take long untill they really start producing feature quality movies for DTV releases... The problem is that the story often (if not all the time) happens in the US, where Disney hires a small team of scriptwriters to come up with a script of a sequel. Sometimes they do a great job, sometimes they don't...

Paka wrote:Jens, you've got to understand that these statements (and yes, even prejudices) against these cheapquels do not translate as an insult on the people that made them. As Mackenzie said, he's reviewing an end product, not passing judgement on the "nice people on the crew who worked so hard on it."

Well that's where he's wrong... He is NOT reviewing an end product. He's reviewing a PREVIEW and just like that he has reached thousands of people that won't want to give this movie a chance just because his stupid remarks on a PREVIEW. He's not passing judgement on the "nice people" you say? Well, then you should really read his previous review about Mulan II, where he really attack the DisneyToon Studios name and all the people working there. I don't think it would be fun as a DisneyToon Studios animator to read his reviews...

Paka wrote:There is no doubt that the DisneyToons crew is talented and hard-working, but they also have no power to control what type of projects they work on. It would be very nice to see them be able to create their own original stories without executive intervention and micro-management, but sadly, that's not the case. They do work very hard on what they're given, but alas, they are not allowed to change the story - at least to anything above "banal."

I agree, but again I would like to stress that they do not have the budget and mostly not even the time to really micro-manage their movies. I agree that the external story "making" is not a good thing, but at least they're not letting unexperienced people from the DisneyToon Studios handle the scriptwriting part, if that makes any sence.

Paka wrote:I think Mackenzie responded quite thoroughly and eloquently to your feedback on that review page, and explained his case very well. The cheapquels do have a record of mediocrity, and the odds are stacked against Bambi II being anything spectacular. But Mackenzie admitted it himself - he (as well as I) will gladly be proven wrong if this cheapquel turns out, storywise, to be great.

He responded quite thoroughly indeed, but he just suddenly played the nice guy on me and tried to fluff everything up he said in the review. Where did he state that he would be gladly proven wrong if this sequel turns out great in the review? Nowhere! I don't think he will ever give the sequels a chance because he will always find something that isn't like the original, or that is too knocked in, or whatever... There are lots of people like that now, and they're just spreading the disease further and further and further...

Paka wrote:But again, the criticism leveled at the cheapquels is for the films, and the films alone; it's not meant as an insult against DisneyToons, or Andreas Deja, or anyone involved in the crew. It's the Men In Suits - those clueless execs in upper management, who greenlight, and at the same stunt the growth of, these projects - who are to be blamed.

While giving critism to the "film alone", you have to understand that he IS damaging the reputation of the DisneyToon Studios and that he IS influencing people that want to be influenced and THAT is my main problem. He has no right to critisize a PREVIEW like that... For all we know, this sequel might turn out as the best one from the DisneyToon Studios!