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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:48 am
by pap64
Fellow UDers!

If you think people hating on classics like Snow White, Fantasia, Lion King etc. is blasphemy...PREPARE TO DIE OF SHOCK! BECAUSE ONE OF MY LEAST FAVORITE DISNEY FILMS IS...

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...BAMBI!!!

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Yes, Bambi is an animated classic that inspired many talking animal epics both at Disney and in other studios.

But I never enjoyed it that much. I mean its cute but the songs are weak, the characters are basically empty shells with cute all over them and there's barely any drama.

Oh yeah, someone's mother died. Don't know who it was.

In all seriousness now, I never enjoyed the film that much.

I also hate the whipping boy of this thread; Chicken Little.

What annoys me so much about the movie is that its NOT Disney. Even movies like "New Groove" had a charm that made it a pure Disney film. But to me CL is like a wannabe film that tries hard to reach an audience, the same audience that loves Shrek to pieces. That isn't Disney.

Plus the art style and animation is really boring. CL looks cute and Abby looks funny, but everyone else...They look like they came out of a "How to draw" book with some really uninspired design.

Had this been done by another studio I would have given them a break. Disney can do better than this.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:06 am
by Will Barks
My least favorite Disney Classics are

Home on the Range - Seems to be made just to justify their argument that people don't like 2D animation any more.

Fox and the Hound - Nothing in and on this film excites me. The story is boring and sometimes even unbearable.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:14 am
by Disney's Divinity
pap64, I don't think it's that shocking. I've never liked Bambi either. It has nothing to do with the animation or the music, I just find it an emotionally cold and dull movie. When Bambi's mother dies, it's like...who was that it again? You can't have a connection to a character that gets little to no screentime and rarely speak when she is there. But, then, I think this film is an accurate depiction of animals (with no attachment or depth--even Bambi & Faline kind of go together because she's the only female around who's taken an interest in him). I don't see how a human can relate to it though.

Anyway, I had to search for my post because it's been so long I can't remember what I said. And I have to say that I don't find Oliver & Co. one of the worst anymore. It's most likely around midways. My least favorites, along with Bambi, are probably: Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Brother Bear. The first two have no emotion (at least, none that I can connect to) and the latter has too much. And they're all dull at that. Oh, and I've always had a personal dislike for Peter Pan and Lilo & Stitch as well.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:54 am
by Mooky
Oh, where to begin? :)

- The Lion King - I loved it when I was younger, but with each repeated viewing I liked it less and less. I still appreciate the animation and music, but overall this film is boring, IMO

- Bambi - pap64, you're not alone on this one

- Pocahontas - ugh... Like "Lion King", I loved it as a kid. But now... I hate Mel Gibson voicing John Smith and his lack of personality, I hate how Pocahontas is always serious (and she dares to comment on Kocoum's "smile" - she should look in the mirror), I hate Pocahontas and John Smith's relationship (no chemistry whatsoever), I hate how it tries to cater to both kids and adults and fails... For what it's worth, the soundtrack is amazing and the animation is beautiful

- Fantasia - it put me to sleep. Granted, it was the first time I watched it in its entirety and it was late at night and I was tired, but still... I should give it another try, probably. I love "Fantasia 2000" though.

- Sleeping Beauty - it has wonderful animation and music, but the fact that the title character is less developed than sidekicks ruins it for me. Now this is blasphemy, but I HATE Aurora.

- The Jungle Book - my least favorite Disney film ever. Nothing happens in this film, I will never understand why so many people like it.

- Chicken Little - does this qualify as an animated classic? If yes, then this is my least favorite Disney film ever. Words can't express how much I despise this film, so I'll just leave it at that.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:01 am
by Ariel'sprince
I also think that the songs in Bambi are boring,I have it on DVD but never fully watched it,I used to watch it a lot when I was younger thought.
Chicken Little more feels like a DreamWorks movie more then anything else and The Wild... I don't even consider it a Disney film,it's a dumb and lame Finding Nemo,Lion King and Madagascar rip-off.
I dislike Hunchback and Atlantis.
Thought The Lion King is my favorite Disney Animale/Animale Friends movie I find it VERY overrated,agree with PrincePhillipFan thought I like little Simba and I don't think older Nala is different,about the songs-Most of them are okay,Circle Of Life is beautiful but Hakuna Matta is one of the most annyoing Disney songs.
I agree that Fantasia is boring and I only care for The Sorcerer's Apprentice and maybee Night On Bald Mountain thought Night On Bald Mountain is creepy,I think that Fantasia and Pinocchio are the most boring Disney movies.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:06 am
by Ariel'sprince
mooky_7_sa-Why do you hate Aurora?.
And about Pocahontas,she's actually does smile and she's not that serious,not like Kocoum,Kocokum kinda reminds me of Daniel Radcliffe :lol:.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:20 am
by Mooky
Ariel'sprince wrote:mooky_7_sa-Why do you hate Aurora?
She just irks me. She's too passive and I hate passive characters.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:17 pm
by Scamander
I hate Aurora, too. She is way to simple and has no personality, but nevertheless I love Sleeping Beauty. It's one of my favourites. Actually there are just a few Disney Classics I really dislike. First of all the one I've never seen since it's out as Platinum Edition on DVD:
Bambi: I really cannot understand why so many people like this movie. It's just boring to me. I try to watch it since 2005 and don't get through.

Another movie which comes from the same era:

Dumbo: There is one scene I really love and that's -you'll guessed it- the pink elephants-scene. It's pretty cool and this scene alone is the reason why I'm watching it from time to time. The rest is pretty uninteresting.

Lady and the Tramp: Yeah, another Platinum Title, just as boring as Bambi. I like Si & Am and the "Bella Notte"-sequence but although I have it twice on DVD (Limited Issue and PE) I've seen it just once!

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:11 pm
by Goliath
I know this is a (fairly) old thread, but I just have to bump it. And because I'm a 'newbie', I think I can. :wink: And I also posted my ten favorite films, so now it's time for my least favorites:

The Rescuers Down Under (1990)

It has no heart. The original The Rescuers had a heart. It was a warm film. This sequel is cold and lifeless. Yes, the animation is gorgeous. The picture looks great. But it also renders it lifeless. The charm of the original movie was the sober animation. It forced Disney to focus more on the story and character development. This sequel is basically the same story, but this time with a less than memorable villain, an annoying extra character added to the Bernard-Bianca team, a kidnapped kid which I never felt for due to his lack of appeal, and without the beautiful songs.

The Sword in the Stone (1963)

The only interesting thing is the duel between Merlin and Mad Madam Mim. Great character by the way, but she's the only entertaining character. I find Merlin's design to be very lazy. A wizard is an old guy with a pointy hat and a long beard... Really original... And that boy Wart has nothing to offer either. But what I dislike the most, is how none of merlin's lifelessons to Wart contribute to his becoming king. One would expect that the lessons he get taught have a relation to his future as a king. But we never get to see that. Which renders all those segments pointless. All in all, a rather poor structure.

Alice in Wonderland (1951)

Again: a lead character with no appeal. Who is Alice, what does she think, what does she want? We never get to know. She wanders aimlessly from one sequence into another. Basically, the film is one long list of encounters with strange animals and other particularly unpleasant creatures, who all lack character development. This film is seriously overcrowded and the story is underdeveloped.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:29 pm
by akhenaten
i dislike CHICKEN LITTLE more than anything. more than dreamworks films (kung fu panda notwithstanding).more than cabbages and gado-gado.

i regret the day it was released and i'd like it to switch places with song of the south as 'the disney film we dare not release ever again' until a leonard cluckin or an oprah poultry would precede the film's opening by giving a brief contextual information regarding its atrocity.)

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:24 pm
by Neal
akhenaten wrote:...until a leonard cluckin or an oprah poultry would precede the film's opening by giving a brief contextual information regarding its atrocity.)
HA! That's actually highly clever! But I agree, I am making a short film that has about 15 seconds of the most memorable moments of all the classics (Cinderella's dress transformation, Belle and the Beast dancing, etc.) and could not find a single scene that I felt was memorable in Chicken Little. I finally used the UFO attack but wasn't too impressed. I'd definitely say this is way, way down on the my Disney film ranks.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:26 pm
by akhenaten
u can cheat by using the ufo scene from bolt for chikin litil.that was done nicer. :twisted:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:33 pm
by Escapay
Goliath wrote:I know this is a (fairly) old thread, but I just have to bump it. And because I'm a 'newbie', I think I can. :wink:
Just the mere fact that you actually searched for an old thread and bumped it up rather than start a new one (in which I'd have to search for the old thread and provide a link for it in the new one, then have my partner in crime Ceej merge the two) gets a :up: in my book!
Neal wrote:I am making a short film that has about 15 seconds of the most memorable moments of all the classics (Cinderella's dress transformation, Belle and the Beast dancing, etc.) and could not find a single scene that I felt was memorable in Chicken Little.
Use the "Numa Numa" trailer. :P

albert

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:18 pm
by Neal
It has to be a scene actually from the movie (just a self-imposed rule). :D So I can't cheat with BOLT or the trailer, as much as I'd like to! :wink:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:12 pm
by Sky Syndrome
I disliked Atlantis: The Lost Empire when I watched it in theaters eight years ago at age 15. It felt like it dragged for a very long time and the cast members weren't given much time to show character so it was hard to care about them at the moments that intend for the viewer to care about them.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:20 am
by Flanger-Hanger
I thought Meet the Robinsons was just awful. It tired way too hard to be funny and came off as stupid instead. The sentiment was predictable and forced and only the first few and last few minutes were any good. The animation itself was pretty bland and didn't offer anything new and exciting either. This along with Chicken Little are the reasons I stop counting the classics cannon at 44.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:28 pm
by Goliath
Escapay wrote:Just the mere fact that you actually searched for an old thread and bumped it up rather than start a new one (in which I'd have to search for the old thread and provide a link for it in the new one, then have my partner in crime Ceej merge the two) gets a :up: in my book!
Thanks. :) I've been a 'lurker' for some time, so I already read a whole bunch of the old threads... And of course, I always read forum rules first... :wink:
Neal wrote:But I agree, I am making a short film that has about 15 seconds of the most memorable moments of all the classics (Cinderella's dress transformation, Belle and the Beast dancing, etc.)
I would really like to see that film! Are you putting it on YouTube when you're finished?
Flanger-Hanger wrote:This along with Chicken Little are the reasons I stop counting the classics cannon at 44.
Cool, I do the same!

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:38 pm
by Neal
I want to, but it's 14 minutes long. Doesn't YouTube top off at 10-minute long videos? I don't want to chop it in half, that'll take away from the full effect.

Possibly another site would allow me to host it uncut.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:51 pm
by Goliath
Neal wrote:I want to, but it's 14 minutes long. Doesn't YouTube top off at 10-minute long videos? I don't want to chop it in half, that'll take away from the full effect.

Possibly another site would allow me to host it uncut.
I've seen plenty of YouTube videos that are 20 minutes or even 45 minutes long. So it is possible... But don't ask me how.. :P

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:05 pm
by Neal
I'll look into it.

The video was supposed to be due Friday but it got extended until tomorrow.

I probably still won't get it completed tomorrow. I don't have Pinocchio, Snow White or Beauty on DVD. I want to use DVD footage only since it's cleaner. I have Snow on order at the library but can't find Pinocchio or Beauty anywhere - and I've checked all 37 libraries in our inter-loan system, asked at school, and called 3 local movie rental stores. :cry:

If I really can't find them, I'll use my ugly VHS footage (it's lost some color, etc.)

I have to upload the footage of BOLT from the Tinker Bell DVD, and then re-arrange the music. Other than that, it's almost done. I've got the footage entered and edited from all the other of the 51 film canon.

I'm really excited for it!