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I'm sure Asha will eventually be inducted into the Princess franchise just like Raya and Merida did and no one cares about these characters or their movies.

The will eventually make a live action of this, Raya and Encanto

And honestly the live action movie can be very good because the basic plot of Wish is not bad, its the execution that is bad and the mediocre songs (and horrible animation, but that has not relation to live action)

They can make the live action be what EVERYBODY though Wish would be, a crosover movie

Anybody remembers when there were rumours that Asha would travel the worlds of the other movies or that Star would bring cameos from other Disney movies?

I'm usually not a fan of nostalgia bait cameo movies that have no plot at all, but Wish could have used some cameos to celebrate the 100th anniversary

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:29 pm

Vlad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:43 pm
Star was literally the only likeable character in the movie. No lines, but he stole the show.

Star was the best thing for the movie. It was a character made to sell toys

How do you know that? As far as I know, there is no concrete evidence from Disney or its creators explicitly stating that Star was made to sell toys.

Maybe they think if they keep drastically promoting that it will become a sleeper hit ala Encanto or Sleeping Beauty. Only problem is, unlike Encanto, Wish doesnt have anything redeemable or an own identity so they should just stop at this point

What I think is funny is how many hints disney got what really sells the best, with not Demi Lovatos Pop Version of Let it go being the chart success, but the movie version becoming a top 3 Hit and We dont talk about Bruno, a really narrative driven song topping the charts and at the end they go for really vague commercial lyrics and melodies and wonder why they flopped

Hardbackyoyo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:11 pm

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:29 pm
Star was the best thing for the movie. It was a character made to sell toys

How do you know that? As far as I know, there is no concrete evidence from Disney or its creators explicitly stating that Star was made to sell toys.

Because Star has much more merchandise that other characters from the film. Obviously they are not going to say it but it's quite obvious that they made some choices with this character in order to make it a hit character.

Source: https://x.com/NeilNevins/status/1879280906973921528

Sotiris wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:06 am
Source: https://x.com/NeilNevins/status/1879280906973921528

In Spain Asha's dolls are starting to appear in outlet stores. Even dolls that didn't arrive to toy stores like the one that comes with surprise stuff. Dahlia is also on sale in all the toy stores and it seems that they are going to have problems to get rid of them.

They really expected it to be a huge hit, didn't they?

I still haven’t seen this stinker and probably never will. I have the DVD but have zero interest to even open the wrapper.

On the other hand, my boyfriend and I attended a 75th Anniversary showing of Walt Disney’s Cinderella.... and it was glorious!

Farerb wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:26 am They really expected it to be a huge hit, didn't they?

Why would they expect a flop? That would be horrible for a company, to make a movie and while making it not having any type of confidence

Anyways even if the movie was bad (it was) it could have made money, but it didn't, Frozen 2 and Moana 2 both had bad/meh cinemascore and reviews equal to Wish and those still made 1.4b and 1b (obviously being sequels to successful movies)

So I guess Disney was expecting the movie to make 600M like Moana 1, instead I think it made like 250M WW (I'm not sure)

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:11 am

Farerb wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:26 am They really expected it to be a huge hit, didn't they?

Why would they expect a flop? That would be horrible for a company, to make a movie and while making it not having any type of confidence

Anyways even if the movie was bad (it was) it could have made money, but it didn't, Frozen 2 and Moana 2 both had bad/meh cinemascore and reviews equal to Wish and those still made 1.4b and 1b (obviously being sequels to successful movies)

So I guess Disney was expecting the movie to make 600M like Moana 1, instead I think it made like 250M WW (I'm not sure)

Every new film receives merchandise (except Strange World), but it seems that they went overboard with the merchandise for Wish as if they expected it to be the next Frozen or something

I have a great big plush of Star I got for 60% off that I love. I hope they keep using Star, I think that character could have Tinker Bell/Jiminy Cricket status if they keep using it.

Farerb wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:39 am

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:11 am
Why would they expect a flop? That would be horrible for a company, to make a movie and while making it not having any type of confidence

Anyways even if the movie was bad (it was) it could have made money, but it didn't, Frozen 2 and Moana 2 both had bad/meh cinemascore and reviews equal to Wish and those still made 1.4b and 1b (obviously being sequels to successful movies)

So I guess Disney was expecting the movie to make 600M like Moana 1, instead I think it made like 250M WW (I'm not sure)

Every new film receives merchandise (except Strange World), but it seems that they went overboard with the merchandise for Wish as if they expected it to be the next Frozen or something

It was their 100th aniversario Disney Princess musical movie, of course they expected it to be massive, it wasn't but the movie was created to be a hit

The movie was awful and didn't had any positive quality in the end, I don't like any of the songs

Correction: I like 'At All Costs' but it was clearly a romantic ballad in a weird moment since the final version of the movie didn't had any romance

I don't think they expected anything with Strange World... So much of that film felt like it was built in response to Chapek's controversies and they didn't expect success (I still think it's weird they modeled it so much after Atlantis and TP, like they were actively wanting it to flop), but they were probably hoping Wish would be the first original film since the pandemic to go back to pre-pandemic levels at the box office to some degree.

I expected it to do more than it did, but I think being the film that followed Strange World impacted it more than I expected. The film in the end is sort of bland, but so are a lot of successful films they've had like Moana. But Moana in comparison followed a huge hit, whereas Wish came after a flop. The film has plenty of positive qualities, the only films that do nothing for me are Chicken Little and a couple of the package films. I like a few of the songs even if the music has a very dated quality, Star was adorable, and Magnifico was the best villain since Hans and one I could see end up in villains merchandise thanks to his great design. And the consensus of reviews agreed the film was very pretty, so...

I agree that Star has potential to show up in different places the way that Tinker Bell does. He and Magnifico could end up sort of like Merlin and Mim fom TSitS, who show up at the parks and various Disney things even though TSitS has never been big.

carolinakid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:42 am I still haven’t seen this stinker and probably never will. I have the DVD but have zero interest to even open the wrapper.

On the other hand, my boyfriend and I attended a 75th Anniversary showing of Walt Disney’s Cinderella.... and it was glorious!

Was the DVD a gift then? Or did you buy it as a completist?

Wow that sounds extraordinary. Hope you guys both enjoyed seeing Cinderella in all its glory.

I bought it as I’m a completist with all the Disney and Pixar animated films and the live action films through the 1970s.
The latest Disney live action I own is The Black Hole. Nothing live action past that interested me enough to own the DVD.

I was a bit surprised since I didn't think you'd seen much less bought anything after TSitS/The Aristocats (the last films Walt was at least vaguely part of).

No, although the Walt era is my favorite, I remained a big Disney fan through the ‘90s. After 2000, I began to lose interest and haven’t seen much over the last 25 years. I continue to purchase the DVDs, although I’ve never seen most of the post 2000 films.

carolinakid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:42 am I still haven’t seen this stinker and probably never will. I have the DVD but have zero interest to even open the wrapper.

On the other hand, my boyfriend and I attended a 75th Anniversary showing of Walt Disney’s Cinderella.... and it was glorious!

Well how would you know that it’s actually a “stinker” if you haven’t actually seen it? After all, consider the first Hocus Pocus Which also Bombed heavily whenever it came out, So who is to say this word eventually happen to Wish?

carolinakid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:33 am I bought it as I’m a completist with all the Disney and Pixar animated films and the live action films through the 1970s.
The latest Disney live action I own is The Black Hole. Nothing live action past that interested me enough to own the DVD.

I think I said this to you before but you're not missing out on much for skipping out on the 2000s Disney movies or anything past the 90s. Personally I don't understand being a completist for products you're never going to watch or even like though. I wouldn't want to own movies that I find to be an insult to Disney or my own tastes and a film like Wish isn't even worth getting for free lol.

For live-action films, I know your faith is important to you so I would recommend the Narnia movies. Especially if you've ever read the books. You would enjoy those, especially the first one, being a Christian and they're quite magical. They were luckily made before Disney's woke era so there's nothing obtrusive. Have you ever seen any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies though? Or Who Framed Roger Rabbit?