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Agreed. I'm sorry. Again, I LOVE Brave, but if Brave wins the Oscar and beats the STRONGER nominees, I'm going to call foul play because I thought Frankenweenie, WIR, or Rise of the Guardians would have win.DisneyJedi wrote:That's the Awards are freakin' Pixar-biased.
No point for the award in 2013, Monsters U already won. I see now why Jeffrey Katzenberg was promoting Guardians for award attention last year. With Pixar's fix, you got to do ALL you can to try & compete! DIsney learned a long time ago about Pixar: If you can't beat'em, Buy'em!DisneyJedi wrote:That's the Awards are freakin' Pixar-biased.
Really? One film tells you that?PatrickvD wrote:But I think the rosy days are over for DWA. Rise of the Guardians indicates Dreamworks might not be able to keep their crew for much longer either.
Considering Guardians didn't do well in the US, I'd hardly use that as a barometer to tell if Dreamworks is unable to make an original film popular overseas.Original films don't do well at the international Box Office anymore. Brave, Guardians, Ralph all underperformed. The days of a sure-fire $500 million dollar hit like Shrek, Panda or Madagascar are over. Their next sequel isn't until spring 2014 and their stock has plummeted. It'll be very interesting to see if they can continue to have this great environment they've created.
Dreamworks has 3 original films due this year. The Croods will drop in March & will be the only major animated release until Blue Sky's Epic in late May. And has How to trailn your Dragon & The Lorax proved in previous years: March is a DAMN good month to release an animated film. Even better than November!Disney's Divinity wrote:I'm not at all surprised that Pixar would win an award over better films.disneyprincess11 wrote:Wow, Brave won Best Animated Picture for the Golden Globes. Didn't expect this.
Really? One film tells you that?PatrickvD wrote:But I think the rosy days are over for DWA. Rise of the Guardians indicates Dreamworks might not be able to keep their crew for much longer either.
Considering Guardians didn't do well in the US, I'd hardly use that as a barometer to tell if Dreamworks is unable to make an original film popular overseas.Original films don't do well at the international Box Office anymore. Brave, Guardians, Ralph all underperformed. The days of a sure-fire $500 million dollar hit like Shrek, Panda or Madagascar are over. Their next sequel isn't until spring 2014 and their stock has plummeted. It'll be very interesting to see if they can continue to have this great environment they've created.
Oh we don't deny that voters do have opinions but in the case of the relationship between the award shows and Pixar, I have this to say: There is a difference between giving an award to a movie because of how good it is and giving it to a movie because "it was done by the same studio who made those other movies."qindarka wrote:It's just an awards show guys. So the voters have a difference in opinion, that's alright. For all we argue about these sort of things, they are pretty meaningless.
Perhaps they genuinely thought that Brave was the best animated movie of the year.Tristy wrote:Oh we don't deny that voters do have opinions but in the case of the relationship between the award shows and Pixar, I have this to say: There is a difference between giving an award to a movie because of how good it is and giving it to a movie because "it was done by the same studio who made those other movies."qindarka wrote:It's just an awards show guys. So the voters have a difference in opinion, that's alright. For all we argue about these sort of things, they are pretty meaningless.
No, Because it was "PIXAR's" Brave. If Brave was done by Disney or Dreamworks, would it have still won? Not likely.qindarka wrote:Perhaps they genuinely thought that Brave was the best animated movie of the year.Tristy wrote: Oh we don't deny that voters do have opinions but in the case of the relationship between the award shows and Pixar, I have this to say: There is a difference between giving an award to a movie because of how good it is and giving it to a movie because "it was done by the same studio who made those other movies."
Disney's Divinity wrote:Sure, sure.
In the past three pages, people have accused DW of buying nominations and awards, but when it's Pixar--no, no, they genuinely deserved it (even though their film is generally regarded as the weakest of the nominees). Oh, please.
As I said in a previous post, I see now why Jeffrey Katzenberg was trying to promote Guardians for awards. Going against Pixar during award season, you got to do everything you can just to have a chance.
No one knows, execpt for Pixar.Tristy wrote:Actually, a thought occurred to me. The first Cars won Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature but it lost to Happy Feet at the Oscars. So maybe there's hoping that some other feature will win. But...what do I know?
The last few pages have been full of comments complaining about Pixar's victory. I'm really the only one arguing that perhaps the Globes thought they genuinely deserved it and I have never said anything about Dreamworks and buying awards.Disney's Divinity wrote:Sure, sure.
In the past three pages, people have accused DW of buying nominations and awards, but when it's Pixar--no, no, they genuinely deserved it (even though their film is generally regarded as the weakest of the nominees). Oh, please.
I agree with you. Brave was a very well-received film, after all, so it's not out of the question that the HFPA preferred it over the others. Wreck-It Ralph is my favourite animated film of the year, but I liked Brave a lot, too.qindarka wrote:The last few pages have been full of comments complaining about Pixar's victory. I'm really the only one arguing that perhaps the Globes thought they genuinely deserved it and I have never said anything about Dreamworks and buying awards.Disney's Divinity wrote:Sure, sure.
In the past three pages, people have accused DW of buying nominations and awards, but when it's Pixar--no, no, they genuinely deserved it (even though their film is generally regarded as the weakest of the nominees). Oh, please.
Well, yeah, but....Tristy wrote:Actually, a thought occurred to me. The first Cars won Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature but it lost to Happy Feet at the Oscars. So maybe there's hoping that some other feature will win. But...what do I know?
The past half-page. Much more anti-Dreamworks was going on, so no.qindarka wrote: The last few pages have been full of comments complaining about Pixar's victory.
