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Cel-shading doesn't work well with characters; it's more suited for objects and props. It definitely cannot be a substitute of hand-drawn animation.

Sotiris wrote:Cel-shading doesn't work well with characters; it's more suited for objects and props. It definitely cannot be a substitute of hand-drawn animation.

actually it can work on characters. It just depend on how well it's made.

You guys worry too much. Tomorrow you will all wake up with a crop of silvery white hair.

Let's just wait for some more news on this untitled Musker/Clements film. It sounds exciting, and even if the hand-drawn animation is limited only to backgrounds, props, etc., I think it would introduce a new aesthetic to Disney animation, and that's something I always look forward to.

By the way, Sotiris, hearing that The Snow Queen has been retitled Frozen was kinda good news to me, since I was under the impression that it had been shelved once more (and Frozen sounds much better than Tangled).[/b]

Julian Carter wrote: Let's just wait for some more news on this untitled Musker/Clements film. It sounds exciting, and even if the hand-drawn animation is limited only to backgrounds, props, etc., I think it would introduce a new aesthetic to Disney animation, and that's something I always look forward to.

By the way, Sotiris, hearing that The Snow Queen has been retitled Frozen was kinda good news to me, since I was under the impression that it had been shelved once more (and Frozen sounds much better than Tangled).[/b]

Well, I, like a few here, are hoping the movie will be mostly hand-drawn (characters and all) with SOME elements of CGI (even if a few of the characters have to be CGI).

As for the retitling of Snow Queen, just because it "worked" for Tangled doesn't mean that retitling their films is Disney's major answer to everything. XP

DisneyJedi wrote:

Julian Carter wrote: Let's just wait for some more news on this untitled Musker/Clements film. It sounds exciting, and even if the hand-drawn animation is limited only to backgrounds, props, etc., I think it would introduce a new aesthetic to Disney animation, and that's something I always look forward to.

By the way, Sotiris, hearing that The Snow Queen has been retitled Frozen was kinda good news to me, since I was under the impression that it had been shelved once more (and Frozen sounds much better than Tangled).[/b]

Well, I, like a few here, are hoping the movie will be mostly hand-drawn (characters and all) with SOME elements of CGI (even if a few of the characters have to be CGI).
As for the retitling of Snow Queen, just because it "worked" for Tangled doesn't mean that retitling their films is Disney's major answer to everything. XP

Well, I'm use to it. If the title fits the storyline.

Anonymous #1 wrote:No doubt that 2D features should be in the pipeline.

Anonymous #2 wrote:There are.

Anonymous #1 wrote:I think it makes sense to use a mix of 2D and CGI. They just need to be careful to avoid the "Top Cat" floating effect.

Anonymous #2 wrote:Wait 'til you see what Disney's doing next. (see Steve's comments above if you don't believe me).

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... toids.html

Super Aurora wrote:Actually, it can work on characters. It just depends on how well it's made.

Well, from the examples that were posted, it doesn't look very good on characters. Do you have any better examples?

Sotiris wrote:

Super Aurora wrote:Actually, it can work on characters. It just depends on how well it's made.

Well, from the examples that were posted, it doesn't look very good on characters. Do you have any better examples?

not out yet but the upcoming Berserk movie will have it. It blends so well. I almost thought the parts that were CG was actually 2D.

Steve Hulett wrote:Personal opinion only, but I don't think we're going to see a lot of hand-drawn features from Disney that look like hand-drawn features that we've known and loved.

I don't know of any hand-drawn features on the stocks inside the Hat Building, but I get around so little. Perhaps one will percolate up.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... -snow.html

^why do I get a feeling that that kind of news is BAD news? Because, honestly, it doesn't sound positive to me.

DisneyJedi wrote:^why do I get a feeling that that kind of news is BAD news? Because, honestly, it doesn't sound positive to me.

Now let's not get carried away, DisneyJedi! We were being dramatic before, you know. I think TAG is just guessing. We don't know what's going to happened to Hand Drawn. I'm sure they're still doing hand drawn. Although the question is, is this new Musker and Clement movie going to be both CG and Hand Drawn?

It's not that, tsWade2. It's what Steve Hulett said:

Steve Hulett wrote:Personal opinion only, but I don't think we're going to see a lot of hand-drawn features from Disney that look like hand-drawn features that we've known and loved.

DisneyJedi wrote:It's not that, tsWade2. It's what Steve Hulett said:

Steve Hulett wrote:Personal opinion only, but I don't think we're going to see a lot of hand-drawn features from Disney that look like hand-drawn features that we've known and loved.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it won't be good, right? Who knows? The new 2D might be more beautiful than the others

DisneyJedi wrote:It's not that, tsWade2. It's what Steve Hulett said:

Steve Hulett wrote:Personal opinion only, but I don't think we're going to see a lot of hand-drawn features from Disney that look like hand-drawn features that we've known and loved.

He says it's his personal opinion only. Just because there won't be a lot of hand drawn movies, doesn't mean it's the end of Hand Drawn. Like I said, TAG is not real informational website. I suggest we should take a grain of salt and wait until it's official.

Q: I don't understand what you mean by that Steve.

Steve Hulett: I mean they won't look like "Pinocchio" or "Aladdin" or even "Tarzan." They will be much closer to "Tangled," "Puss in Boots," (etc.) in visual style.

Source http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... -snow.html

In other words, they WON'T be hand-drawn. Rather, they'll be CGI. I mean, really. How do Tangled and Puss in Boots look even remotely hand-drawn visually when they're really CGI??

DisneyJedi wrote:In other words, they WON'T be hand-drawn. Rather, they'll be CGI. I mean, really. How do Tangled and Puss in Boots look even remotely hand-drawn visually when they're really CGI??

In Tangled's case, it's the style. Notice how it's easy to transit from it's cgi look to it's 2d look.

If Tangled was 2D, Flynn would look more along this(yes this is officially from disney studio):





Not much different from actual one from final product film, wouldn't you say?

Super Aurora wrote:Not much different from actual one from final product film, wouldn't you say?

Hand-drawn Flynn looks so much better. But I guess that's a matter of personal taste.

Well, it doesn't matter now because when Disney's next hand-drawn film comes out, we HAVE to support it like crazy this time! And by supporting it, I mean telling Disney- with our wallets- to keep making movies like that!

Sotiris wrote: Hand-drawn Flynn looks so much better. But I guess that's a matter of personal taste.

I agree. But I've always thought Rapunzel looks similar in comparison between 2D and 3D examples.