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Re: Wish

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 4:21 pm
by Thumper_93
I have a problem with Asha. I love her design but I found her as you said. She doesn't have a defined personality. In her main song she looks mature and decided, a strong character but in other scenes she acts like a clown. I don't know if they didn't know how to develop her or if her final personality was so akward due to the constant changes they made in the movie

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 4:30 pm
by nachonaco
I really thought to myself "There's no way it could be this bad" but....the entire scene with Asha and Magnifico (the interview scene) is just ENTIRELY cringeworthy.

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 6:21 pm
by Pokenonbinary
Thumper_93 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 1:24 am I bought two dolls, Queen Amaya doll, the sticker álbum and the loungefly. Presonally I like the merchandise more than the movie but as I said people doesn't seem very enthusiastic about the movie or the merchan. Here in spain the dolls didn't sell well and the shops have all the models on the shelfs since christmas.
They could have promoted the movie as Spanish but they didn't, the fault of Disney and Disney Spain

Like I didn't even saw the Telediario Talk about the movie being based in Spain, very flop marketing campaign here in Spain about a movie based in the country

Re: Wish

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:07 am
by Thumper_93
Pokenonbinary wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:21 pm
Thumper_93 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 1:24 am I bought two dolls, Queen Amaya doll, the sticker álbum and the loungefly. Presonally I like the merchandise more than the movie but as I said people doesn't seem very enthusiastic about the movie or the merchan. Here in spain the dolls didn't sell well and the shops have all the models on the shelfs since christmas.
They could have promoted the movie as Spanish but they didn't, the fault of Disney and Disney Spain

Like I didn't even saw the Telediario Talk about the movie being based in Spain, very flop marketing campaign here in Spain about a movie based in the country
You are all right. I expected a better marketing with this movie.
The only good things that they made was Ana Guerra singing the song with projections of Star in Madrid's Plaza Mayor.

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 1:37 am
by The Disneynerd
Maui & Magnifico comparison video :milkbuds:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7G1r1cq ... p2ZGY4ODZs

They have more in common than I thought, and Maui did way worse and reckless things than Magnifico ever had
MAUI
big, 'scary", powerful, rude, impulsive and aggressive
trashed by his family, scarred for life, heavily
traumatized
worked to become a mighty demigod
lives for approval and love because of his fragile
childlike ego
insecure, will sing his own praises, doesn't feel
validated
wil risk anything to defend his pedestal as hero of men
addicted to compliments, although superficial that
never give him peace because he's aware people love
him for what he can do and not who he is as a person

KING MAGNIFICO
big, "scary", powerful, impulsive and aggressive only
when provoked into snapping
deceased family, crushed dreams and broken heart,
scarred for life, heavily traumatized
worked to become a mighty sorcerer who can protect
-lives for approval and love because of his fragile
childlike ego
insecure, will sing his own praises, doesn't feel
validated
will risk his own sanity to save his kingdom from
catastrophe and protect his only home that he built with
sacrifices, refuses to lose his position in power that
would take away his last shred of security in his life
addicted to compliments, although superficial that
never give him peace because he's aware people love
him for what he can do and not who he is as a person

THEIR FATE

Maui:. meets a Disney princess who heals him despite
his reckless and dangerous actions by praising him and
validating him in all his battles and traumas
understanding the tragedy of his life lived as a people
pleaser, people whose greed and selfishness have no
end.

King Magnifico: meets Asha seeking help at work and to
share his magic, voluntarily shares his pain, trauma and
deepest secrets, gets trashed, questioned in his
competence, ridiculed, used, abused for favors, mocked
insulted for his looks, purposely villanized by the very
people he spoiled endessly, and finally abandoned by
every single soul in Rosas, trapped in a mirror and
banished in the dungeons by his own wife

Re: Wish

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:27 am
by Warm Regards
Another deleted (alternate?) scene. Takes place after the climax of the movie where Magnifico is in the mirror but Amaya actually destroys it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUQZsCSbZ40

Re: Wish

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:07 pm
by DisneyJedi
Warm Regards wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:27 am Another deleted (alternate?) scene. Takes place after the climax of the movie where Magnifico is in the mirror but Amaya actually destroys it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUQZsCSbZ40
I watched that a couple days ago. I could see concept!Amaya doing that, but Final Cut!Amaya?? Seems a lot out of character for her and I’m glad they didn’t go this route. :huh:

Re: Wish

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:21 pm
by The Disneynerd
Ok glad they "improved" the ending :huh: killing off the King when he wasnt a threat anymore and then claiming that this kingdom is way more peaceful and safe without him in charge... :shifty:

Old deadly disney defeats like Ursula or Maleficent were justified, the heroes had to defend their attacks, but this? He was just a mirror This was murder! lgm and them all clapping and cheering after she killed him out of boredom, this whole movie is a feverdream

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:21 pm
by Patricier21
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The Disneynerd wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:21 pm Ok glad they "improved" the ending :huh: killing off the King when he wasnt a threat anymore and then claiming that this kingdom is way more peaceful and safe without him in charge... :shifty:

Old deadly disney defeats like Ursula or Maleficent were justified, the heroes had to defend their attacks, but this? He was just a mirror This was murder! lgm and them all clapping and cheering after she killed him out of boredom, this whole movie is a feverdream
Of course it is, how can you not see that it’s not, especially whenever you look at it subtly? Especially also when you’re older and you can read between the lines and open parentheses (should) know when someone is truly evil and not living up to what they should be doing and in the way they should be, let along what you truly want and need, and well beyond the Bare Necessities. Seriously, I’m actually legitimately worried about your mental health if you think that just having the Bare Necessities and living in a place about rent or conflict is truly enough to live a life….

Re: Wish

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:40 pm
by The Disneynerd
Patricier21 wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:21 pm Of course it is, how can you not see that it’s not, especially whenever you look at it subtly? Especially also when you’re older and you can read between the lines and open parentheses (should) know when someone is truly evil and not living up to what they should be doing and in the way they should be, let along what you truly want and need, and well beyond the Bare Necessities. Seriously, I’m actually legitimately worried about your mental health if you think that just having the Bare Necessities and living in a place about rent or conflict is truly enough to live a life….
Youre totally right Patricier! :-D :-o Im so sorry. Magnifico is indeed one of Disneys most evilest villains ever! It was so heartless of him to build a peaceful community where people freewillingly came in hopes they can get a shortcut to lazy wishes. Hes so cruel for not granting every single wish in existense including the Wish to make the whole universe explode :mickeyface:

Magnifico was actually evil when he soaked up Star for his powers and tried to silence everyone in the "climax", even though he was mind controlled by the dark book, but who cares?
In this case we should also charge Prince Eric for Hooking up with Ursulas alter ego and dumping Ariel for her, right?... :eyebrow:

Im worried about your mental health too babes, especially as you should be "older and able to read between the lines"💋
So many words talking in circles.... seriously sometimes I think your comments are written by AI or somethin :wink:
Have a nice Day Particier Xoxo💋

Re: Wish

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:32 pm
by Disney's Divinity
The only reason Magnifico doesn't die in the film is because they were leaving sequelbait available if Wish had went on to be a success. Sequels are the main reason Disney wanted to get in the 3D business back when, unfortunately it sometimes causes them to edge away from proper endings and weakens their product at times--Magnifico not dying being one of those. I don't think you'd have to be as evil as Maleficent to deserve death, Hans also deserved it (I'd say he was a bit worse than Magnifico, but they both belong in the same bag).

That said, his reaction to being locked in the mirror was cute, even though it feels too comic after what had just been happening 5 minutes prior.

Re: Wish

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:03 pm
by Patricier21
The Disneynerd wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:40 pm
Patricier21 wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:21 pm Of course it is, how can you not see that it’s not, especially whenever you look at it subtly? Especially also when you’re older and you can read between the lines and open parentheses (should) know when someone is truly evil and not living up to what they should be doing and in the way they should be, let along what you truly want and need, and well beyond the Bare Necessities. Seriously, I’m actually legitimately worried about your mental health if you think that just having the Bare Necessities and living in a place about rent or conflict is truly enough to live a life….
Youre totally right Patricier! :-D :-o Im so sorry. Magnifico is indeed one of Disneys most evilest villains ever! It was so heartless of him to build a peaceful community where people freewillingly came in hopes they can get a shortcut to lazy wishes. Hes so cruel for not granting every single wish in existense including the Wish to make the whole universe explode :mickeyface:

Magnifico was actually evil when he soaked up Star for his powers and tried to silence everyone in the "climax", even though he was mind controlled by the dark book, but who cares?
In this case we should also charge Prince Eric for Hooking up with Ursulas alter ego and dumping Ariel for her, right?... :eyebrow:

Im worried about your mental health too babes, especially as you should be "older and able to read between the lines"💋
So many words talking in circles.... seriously sometimes I think your comments are written by AI or somethin :wink:
Have a nice Day Particier Xoxo💋
Has it ever occurred to you that you are over thinking and reading between the lines a bit too much? Do you not understand that it is fairly obvious for him to not grant such a wish as “blowing up the whole universe“ yet that also does not excuse him to make lame excuses for not granting a centurions wishes which are completely harmless, and only appear so because he is too conditioned to that kind of mindset, it has become increasingly misguided let alone taking away the whole purpose of granting the wishes, as he only does what he thinks is right, which is not always what is truly right. Not one person is ever truly right about anything, right? And do not understand how he is not truly doing what he said out to be, and his only granting with benefits him and not What benefits his people? Again, he makes it seem like he’s benefitting the others but he’s really Not. And I know for a fact that a lot of the negativities towards the movie overall or just towards Disney these days in general; I’ll bet that if it wasn’t for Bob Chepek, The pandemic etc. and Disney had actually been doing better even if he still had a big string of flops leading up to wish, it would’ve done a lot better and would’ve been much more greatly received. Your example of prince Eric being brainwashed is one thing, but you could see that magnifico is already malicious until he encountered the book, they literally do even speak about it, you maybe should go back and rewatch the movie, And actually truly form your own true opinion instead of being influenced by others, which again I can tell that you and others are prioritizing more because you just don’t want to look bad, too afraid to actually be different when in fact it could very well be true, but even if it’s not, you’re completely contradicting what it truly means to think let alone truly be human be independent and have a true opinion, which is also a very bad example and again the main reason why the movies so overall received, regardless of any kind of objective faults……

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:03 pm
by Thumper_93
The merchandise is still with a 50% of discount at Disneyland Paris. After 2 months of discount they have stock. It seems that is going to be hard to liquidate it.

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:50 pm
by Farerb
They should throw it in the trash to make room for new Moana merch.

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:42 pm
by Patricier21
Farerb wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:50 pm They should throw it in the trash to make room for new Moana merch.
And yet, that’s actually causing way more damage then not having It there, which may put more into perception about how you should be feeling about the movie, regardless of whether you actually like it or not

Re: Wish

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:39 pm
by carolinakid
They should give it away to children in hospitals or orphanages, but they probably don’t want it either. Or the French equivalent of Toys for Tots...

Re: Wish

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:41 pm
by Thumper_93
I think that if they don't sell it then all the merchandise will be destroyed. Does anybody know if Disney has to pay anything if they give all this products to charity? In some cases some companies destroy their products because that's the easy way to avoid to pay taxes.

Re: Wish

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:26 pm
by Pokenonbinary
Thumper_93 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 11:07 am
Pokenonbinary wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:21 pm
They could have promoted the movie as Spanish but they didn't, the fault of Disney and Disney Spain

Like I didn't even saw the Telediario Talk about the movie being based in Spain, very flop marketing campaign here in Spain about a movie based in the country
You are all right. I expected a better marketing with this movie.
The only good things that they made was Ana Guerra singing the song with projections of Star in Madrid's Plaza Mayor.
Honestly I expected them to use Nia Correia, the winner of OT who is half black half amazigh (canarian) like Asha (Ana Guerra is also half amazigh but Nia fits much more with the character)

In general a very flop marketing campaign in Spain, Portugal, Latin America, the Arab countries and Israel (since Asha is also half jewish)

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:42 am
by DisneyFan09
I was at the Disney Store in London a couple of weeks ago and there was still plenty of merchandise of Wish. Even songs from the movie were played at the store. And I went to the Disney100th Exhibtion again to see what was new there and there were clips from Wish shown at the ending part of the exhibition. Despite how this movie is perceived as a flop, Disney haven`t neglected it completely.

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:50 pm
by Thumper_93
DisneyFan09 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:42 am I was at the Disney Store in London a couple of weeks ago and there was still plenty of merchandise of Wish. Even songs from the movie were played at the store. And I went to the Disney100th Exhibtion again to see what was new there and there were clips from Wish shown at the ending part of the exhibition. Despite how this movie is perceived as a flop, Disney haven`t neglected it completely.
Mattel is also going to release another King Magnifico doll and this time he comes alone, he's not included in any pack with Asha or the king.
I think that they though that the movie was going to be a huge success and decided to make so much merchandise. They didn't expect this flop. Now they are trying their best to make it attractive to the audience but honestly they lost all the oportunities to make it popular. It even didn't become popular on tiktok as hapenned with Encanto.