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Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:39 pm
by DisneyEra
Anyone looking forward to this
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Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:49 pm
by thedisneyspirit
GET IT AWAY :shock:

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:06 pm
by frankf3
I saw the trailer for it, it doesn't look too bad. I think it can a fun, decent time travel movie.

NOTE: We are seriously way off topic here on this Frozen thread lol

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:13 pm
by unprincess
Ice Age is the new Land Before Time. First movie was great, nothing but crap afterwards.

speaking of original Dreamworks films, whatever happened to that cgi movie they were gonna make about a vampire & a werewolf that meet a witch who works at a diner (something like that?) Also wish theyd give Me and My Shadow another chance...

back to Frozen, you know with its amazing success, do you think Disney (being Disney) will assume its success is due to its deceptive marketing & emphasis on comedy(Olaf) & boy friendly action, or will they finally acknowledge that, yes, people do want to see movies about fantasy, drama, music & strong female characters?

Im just dreading the awful marketing campaigns we're gonna get for Giants & Moana.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:14 pm
by Musical Master
frankf3 wrote:I saw the trailer for it, it doesn't look too bad. I think it can a fun, decent time travel movie.

NOTE: We are seriously way off topic here on this Frozen thread lol
I know right?

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:19 pm
by Avaitor
DisneyEra wrote:Anyone looking forward to this
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Actually, I kind of am. Although I do wish that Robert Downey Jr. was still on board as Peabody.

But yeah, we're way off topic. Isn't it time for a new thread, anyway? :P

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:44 pm
by DisneyEra
Back to Frozen:

Disney Animation's Frozen continues to exceed even the most optimistic expectations. The animated sensation increased 47 percent to $28.8 million; among fifth weekends, that figure ranks third all-time behind Avatar ($42.8 million) and Titanic ($30 million). The movie is benefiting not only from great word-of-mouth, but also from a void of legitimate family entertainment—Saving Mr. Banks turned out to be too mature, while Walking with Dinosaurs never really clicked with audiences.

Among 2013 releases, Frozen now ranks seventh with $248.4 million. It's also now guaranteed to close with over $300 million.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3767&p=.htm

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:51 pm
by taei
Back to Frozen.

This is a comment that Grace, From the Beyond the Trailer, made. Ignore if you don't want to read :)

She thinks that the reason Frozen is doing well in theaters is because it's girl-friendly, because the princess market is underserved.

:)

Why do you guys think that the movie is doing well? Do you agree with what Grace said? I'm interested.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:56 pm
by DisneyEra
taei wrote:Back to Frozen.

This is a comment that Grace, From the Beyond the Trailer, made. Ignore if you don't want to read :)

She thinks that the reason Frozen is doing well in theaters is because it's girl-friendly, because the princess market is underserved.

:)

Why do you guys think that the movie is doing well? Do you agree with what Grace said? I'm interested.
Grace made it clear she never liked Frozen, going all the way back to when the leaked posters dropped "she didn't like the character designs". Funny thing is she really is looking forward to Big Hero 6, even though hardly anything has been shown.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:00 pm
by sunhuntin
frozen's only competition over here seems to be cloudy with a chance of meatballs 2. mr banks isnt due until february [!!!!] and dinosaurs hasnt started yet.
dinosaurs its getting lots of adverts on tv, whereas frozen hasnt had much at all. i havent seen a single plug for meatballs at all. most people seem to be choosing frozen over meatballs, with great reviews from the girls and mixed for boys, the younger ones enjoying more than the older. im on a parenting forum even though im not a parent, and these are what the reports are from those who have seen it.

in all honesty, frozen has always seemed more of a girls film to me. singing, 2 female leads, pretty snow flakes, pretty towers... theres just not much in it for boys really, especially the older ones.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:52 pm
by jazzflower92
One theory could be the older fans who actually have seen since 2009 that Disney is getting better at making movies. Their CGI movies are now no longer trying to copy the formula used by the other studios but have instead come to form their own new identity for this era. Also its a Disney princess movie no matter what they say those kinds of movies actually have a wide demographic. The merchandise might be more female oriented but the actual movies have a everlasting appeal to both genders.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:16 pm
by Victurtle
The fact it's a musical is enough for it to be labelled 'female orientated'. But given its success it doesn't seem to matter.

I don't know about the market being unserved though. Despicable Me was a huge film. As cool as the minions are, it doesn't take away the fact that it is a franchise about fatherhood of three young girls, with the added romance element this time round. Certainly a hugely popular, 'girl-friendly' film.

Must be tough for Grace to have Frozen be so popular, and so loved, despite her hate campaign she launched before the films release. The fact she's grasping for justifications for its box office numbers shows she can no longer maintain her original arguments in light of its positive reception.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:18 pm
by Tristy
Victurtle wrote:The fact it's a musical is enough for it to be labelled 'female orientated'. But given its success it doesn't seem to matter.

I don't know about the market being unserved though. Despicable Me was a huge film. As cool as the minions are, it doesn't take away the fact that it is a franchise about fatherhood of three young girls, with the added romance element this time round. Certainly a hugely popular, 'girl-friendly' film.

Must be tough for Grace to have Frozen be so popular, and so loved, despite her hate campaign she launched before the films release. The fact she's grasping for justifications for its box office numbers shows she can no longer maintain her original arguments in light of its positive reception.
Boy. I sure can't wait to see her reaction if it ends winning the Golden Globe and given its competition for the award, it seems likely.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:30 pm
by Tristy
unprincess wrote:Ice Age is the new Land Before Time. First movie was great, nothing but crap afterwards.
I guess Hollywood's having a thing for milking franchises dealing with prehistoric creatures.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:02 pm
by nomad2010
I think the BIG QUESTION that should be on everyone's minds right now is this:

How is this unexpected over-the-top success of Frozen, another musical princess movie, going to effect Disney's upcoming slate and strategies?

It's very clear that Frozen is a runaway hit. It's going to have a major impact on Disney Animation's future. They obviously know what needs fixed with it, but also what was right. With two very male-audience centric films in the upcoming years (Giants? and Big Hero 6) and then Moana also, Disney doesn't have anything even close to Frozen, Tangled, or the fairy tales of yesteryear. Will we see Moana and Giants change? Will they be scrapped completely? As neither is officially announced. What is it the Lopez's are working on?

There's a lot that we're about to see change, and I'm excited to be here to witness it. What do you think? What's about to happen to Disney Animation thanks to Frozen?

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:05 pm
by taei
She goes on a whole shpeel about how fans are overlooking all the flaws, when they shouldn't be. And about how if everyone praises the movie, disney wont release serious movies. something like that. I stopped. I mean, I am interested in hearing her opinions, but I can only hear so much before shutting it off.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:32 pm
by Tristy
taei wrote:She goes on a whole shpeel about how fans are overlooking all the flaws, when they shouldn't be. And about how if everyone praises the movie, disney wont release serious movies. something like that. I stopped. I mean, I am interested in hearing her opinions, but I can only hear so much before shutting it off.
How fans are overlooking the flaws huh? Well, she'd be surprised to see how even fans will notice flaws in things. There are many who are fans of Hunchback but still acknowledge its weaker bits. Leonard Maltin mentioned how Tangled was one of his favorite Disney movies in recent years but still mentioned how the songs weren't all that memorable. And of course on this board, I'm seeing people who are fans of this movie who still have issues: The pacing, the amount of Elsa screen-time, and, yes, Hans's villainous reveal. So, sorry Grace. But even fans have their bones to pick too. :P

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:33 pm
by disneyprincess11
taei wrote:She goes on a whole shpeel about how fans are overlooking all the flaws, when they shouldn't be. And about how if everyone praises the movie, disney wont release serious movies. something like that. I stopped. I mean, I am interested in hearing her opinions, but I can only hear so much before shutting it off.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

She really tries to hate this

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:37 pm
by frankf3
taei wrote:She goes on a whole shpeel about how fans are overlooking all the flaws, when they shouldn't be. And about how if everyone praises the movie, disney wont release serious movies. something like that. I stopped. I mean, I am interested in hearing her opinions, but I can only hear so much before shutting it off.
Says the woman that gave positive reviews for Despicable Me 2, Croods, and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 this year. I mean I don't know about you guys but I think Frozen is a more "serious" movie than those three I mentioned.

Re: Frozen: Part V

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:49 pm
by Musical Master
nomad2010 wrote:I think the BIG QUESTION that should be on everyone's minds right now is this:

How is this unexpected over-the-top success of Frozen, another musical princess movie, going to effect Disney's upcoming slate and strategies?

It's very clear that Frozen is a runaway hit. It's going to have a major impact on Disney Animation's future. They obviously know what needs fixed with it, but also what was right. With two very male-audience centric films in the upcoming years (Giants? and Big Hero 6) and then Moana also, Disney doesn't have anything even close to Frozen, Tangled, or the fairy tales of yesteryear. Will we see Moana and Giants change? Will they be scrapped completely? As neither is officially announced. What is it the Lopez's are working on?

There's a lot that we're about to see change, and I'm excited to be here to witness it. What do you think? What's about to happen to Disney Animation thanks to Frozen?
I think I could look at this with a sort of happy optimisim that Disney will view Frozen's success as a way of saying: "Hey Disney, we are really happy of what you're doing, keep making these wonderful films". I'm glad that Frozen is now the second highest grossing Disney animated film in the US only behind The Lion King, so everyone can see that Disney is back and they mean business. Disney will keep making really good/great films that stand on their own feet and won't be intimidated by other studios.
Tristy wrote:
Victurtle wrote:The fact it's a musical is enough for it to be labelled 'female orientated'. But given its success it doesn't seem to matter.

I don't know about the market being unserved though. Despicable Me was a huge film. As cool as the minions are, it doesn't take away the fact that it is a franchise about fatherhood of three young girls, with the added romance element this time round. Certainly a hugely popular, 'girl-friendly' film.

Must be tough for Grace to have Frozen be so popular, and so loved, despite her hate campaign she launched before the films release. The fact she's grasping for justifications for its box office numbers shows she can no longer maintain her original arguments in light of its positive reception.
Boy. I sure can't wait to see her reaction if it ends winning the Golden Globe and given its competition for the award, it seems likely.
I can't wait for it too! Just to see her face. :P :P :P :P