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Disney Duster wrote:Why couldn't she remarry, though? She did it once with Ella's father, didn't she? I also like that she was young and beautiful, too. It made her more realistically have those daughters at that age in those times and it made her not hate Ella because she was prettier than her. I think I agree on how the original Lady Tremaine hid her feelings about Cinderella more.

Good point. I just assumed that was the point the film was making with Tremaine's speech to Cinderella in the attic--I think that's the scene--where she talks about being pure and unspoiled or something like that? And how that's why she hates Cinderella. Perhaps if you've went through two husbands at that point on top of having two (annoying) daughters and little money, you have less opportunity to start over?

Patricier21 wrote:The remarry thing can also be said about the original animated movie TOO, let alone all versions of Cinderella for that matter

Yes but in the original she is older, shown by her gray hair, and it would be harder for her to find the husband she wants.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Good point. I just assumed that was the point the film was making with Tremaine's speech to Cinderella in the attic--I think that's the scene--where she talks about being pure and unspoiled or something like that? And how that's why she hates Cinderella. Perhaps if you've went through two husbands at that point on top of having two (annoying) daughters and little money, you have less opportunity to start over?

Hmmm...she probably had the same money as she did after her last husband, but she could have had about the same. I really don't know. And she may have had a lower status marrying a merchant instead of another baron (she had to at least baroness to have the term "Lady", I read). I don't know. Also, I never fully understood what she was saying to Cinderella in the attic, but I took it as, "You didn't go through the crap I went through so you don't understand why I would be the way I am." By the way, she did say her daughters are stupid, but I think she really loves them as she even says she had "two loving daughters".

Skyler Shuler wrote:I've been told that Jodi Benson is in The Little Mermaid. I've just been told it's 'Ming-Na Wen in Mulan'-level cameo. It's not a role. It's just a quick cameo. Apparently, they want to start doing that with the remakes. That's what I was told. I heard it's very quick. I hear it's in a ballroom scene. It's a scene that wasn't in the original film. I was just told she was in a hotel, she visted the set, and she recorded like two lines. There you go.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtuymsD2i5Q

McCarthy saying "we've got your song" as in singular means her character won't be getting a second song like it was hypothesized.

Q: How was being a villainous sea witch in the new "Little Mermaid"?

Melissa McCarthy: Glorious. The world of Disney and (director) Rob Marshall is a world that I wish everyone could experience because it's so creative, kind and lovely. Going to singing class every day, I was actually sad: I got to record with an orchestra, which is a mind-bender for someone who is not a singer, and then they were like, “That's it, we've got your song.” And I was like, “Wait, I don't get to go to class anymore?” I was actually kind of heartbroken about it, but it was such a fun process. It's going to be incredible.

Q: Was a musical on your Hollywood bucket list?

Melissa McCarthy: No, because I didn't think anybody would let me. I love to dance, I love music, I love musicals, but I was like, “Well, I'm not trained in that, so I don't get to do that.” To me, Ursula is everything. She's one of my absolute favorite villains so to play her was delicious. You're flying around singing and spinning in these crazy contraptions and up on wires. What's not to love? Nobody else lets me spin around the yard and sing. They would be like, “You're going to have to stop that.”

Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 788058001/

I don't remember if this was already known or not, but Alan Menken said in the second part of the For Scores podcast that all the songs from the original but one will be in the remake.

D82 wrote:I don't remember if this was already known or not, but Alan Menken said in the second part of the For Scores podcast that all the songs from the original but one will be in the remake.

Probably Les Poissons.

^Yes, it has to be that song.

I hope it's Les Poissons. I think Daughters of Triton is also a possibility and maybe even Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise) depending on the story changes. Wasn't it reported that Ariel was getting a human rival instead of Ursula in disguise? If that's the case, the reprise won't fit anymore.

Sotiris wrote:I hope it's Les Poissons. I think Daughters of Triton is also a possibility and maybe even Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise) depending on the story changes.

Well, yes, it could also be "Daughters of Triton", but I highly doubt it. As for the "Poor Unfortunate Souls" reprise, I don't think he would've mentioned it if it was just a reprise and not a full song, but maybe I'm wrong.

Sotiris wrote:Wasn't it reported that Ariel was getting a human rival instead of Ursula in disguise? If that's the case, the reprise won't fit anymore.

I'm not sure, I don't remember if they were just rumors or if was reported by some trade.

What about Fathoms below? Could that possibly be Cut? The reprise a part of your World at the very end of the movie?

Patricier21 wrote:What about Fathoms Below? Could that possibly be cut?

I think that's also possible. It's not one of the necessary character songs. They could very well change the beginning and not have it start with Eric's ship.

Patricier21 wrote:The reprise a part of your World at the very end of the movie?

That's one of the best things in the movie and the perfect way to end it. They'd be idiots to do such a thing.

What was "Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise)" in the original movie?!!!

Disney Duster wrote:What was "Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise)" in the original movie?!!!

https://youtu.be/3ZQca70bRNM

Did we even get any information on Chef Louis? It seems logical to me that they might want to cut him to have more space to "enhance" the story.

It's sort of amazing when you have an amazing moment like the one where Ursula is singing to herself in the mirror and decide, you know what, let's cut that. Braindead. Besides, her presence when Eric and Ariel nearly kiss in time adds so much more gravity and tension to the situation. Removing her makes both her character and the story more passive and less climactic.

Farerb wrote:Did we even get any information on Chef Louis? It seems logical to me that they might want to cut him to have more space to "enhance" the story.

No, I don't think his casting has been confirmed so far. Chef Louis' purpose in the original was mainly to act as an antagonist to Sebastian in that subplot, which is not essential to the story. Plus, they've reduced the screen time of sidekicks before in these live-action remakes like Timothy Mouse in Dumbo or the mice in Cinderella, so I agree it's likely this Sebastian subplot, including Chef Louis, has been cut completely.

However, I still think it's possible all the songs from the original are included. I checked the last posts about the songs, as I thought I remembered someone saying no song had been cut, and I saw that Lin-Manuel Miranda said that back in June. And, though Alan Menken's podcast has been released now, it was probably recorded before Lin's interview, because in it he says the Little Mermaid remake was being filmed at the moment and that Disenchanted was going into production, and the shooting for the latter began on May. So, the cut song could've been added after Alan's comments.

Disney's Divinity wrote:It's sort of amazing when you have an amazing moment like the one where Ursula is singing to herself in the mirror and decide, you know what, let's cut that. Braindead. Besides, her presence when Eric and Ariel nearly kiss in time adds so much more gravity and tension to the situation. Removing her makes both her character and the story more passive and less climactic.

Dude, no offense but you gotta chill. This whole making up scenarios in your head and being negative about said faux scenarios is getting old, tired and predictable. I know it's a free country and a free forum, but I just knew you'd have something to say because you always do. We don't even know if Poor Unfortunate Souls reprise is getting cut, yet you're being negative over something that you completely made up in your head. Everything is speculation, nothing is confirmed. I'm actually looking forward to this movie and love discussing with you all, but it's disheartening seeing someone do nothing but complain about a movie they don't even want to see and want it to flop. Why would you read posts about a film you care nothing about? Why waste your time and energy? Genuine question.

I don't have to do anything; I would post something positive if there was positive news, like back with the Awkwafina announcement. If there's no good news, naturally the responses will be negative. *shrug* As I said to the last one, you have an Ignore button. I use it when I don't want to read people's posts. Feel free to do the same. Maybe, too, it would help you to simply post your own thoughts rather than focus on what someone else is saying. That's more productive than thinking you can exert control over someone else's reactions...

I’m not controlling what you post. Like I stated, it is a free forum. I just don’t understand coming into a thread for a movie you don’t care about. There’s a thread right now about Diary of a Wimpy Kid and I have not clicked on it because it’s a title I don’t really care for. My point is there was nothing to be negative about. It was posted that a song was cut. We have no idea which song it is. Other people gave suggestions; however, you went on a tangent about how it’s a dumb decision to cut the scene with Vanessa looking in the mirror. Like whattt?? No one said anything about that scene or song getting cut. You state stuff as if they are fact. It’s like you make stuff up just to be mad at the movie. I can’t possibly be the only one that has noticed it. I’ve written about my thoughts on this movie plenty of times. Currently, there is nothing to write my thoughts about because nothing has been released about the movie. Ok, so a song is rumored to be cut. What am I supposed to say about that? People have suggested Les Poisson, Daughters of Triton, Fathoms Below and Poor Souls reprise. What am I supposed to add to the convo? Whatever I’d say would be redundant. I guess we’re just different kinds of people/posters.

Disney's Divinity isn't doing anything wrong, he's just explaining why it would be bad to cut Vanessa or "Poor Unfortunate Souls (Reprise)" if they ever were to be cut, which we were discussing. Thank you farerb for the info, too.