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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:12 pm
by Lightyear
Where do you all suggest getting DVD's that are OOP?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:17 pm
by Big Worms
Lightyear wrote:Where do you all suggest getting DVD's that are OOP?
IMO, ebay is still going to be your best option. You can try to search your local pawn shops or used dvd stores also.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:51 pm
by Dan05
what is a bootleg DVD :?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:06 am
by karlsen
Dan05 wrote:what is a bootleg DVD :?
A bootleg DVD is just a copy that somebody made to sell and make lots of illigal money.

It is illigal to copy Disney property but there are large groups of people that lives by making copyes and selling them as real.

Lots of the bootlegs comes from Asia and there they often are made by criminal organisations that also deals with drugs and other criminal activities.

Real Disney fans should stay away from bootlegs.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:20 am
by orestes.
karlsen wrote: Real Disney fans should stay away from bootlegs.
For sure! I used to be one of those people who wanted a bootleg just because it was illegal and would be interesting to own and show it off but now I have little interest in getting one of those.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:49 am
by Lightyear
Big Worms wrote:
Lightyear wrote:Where do you all suggest getting DVD's that are OOP?
IMO, ebay is still going to be your best option. You can try to search your local pawn shops or used dvd stores also.
I would agree.. Ebay would be your best option via the net purchasing because you are insured against bootlegs.. May be a pain to get your money back, but at least you aren't frauded in that sense.

Common sense also would help :-) I've allready fallen victim to a bootleg DVD, I reported it to both Ebay and Disney, don't expect any type of response or recourse. But I think moving forward, I've got a pretty good set of steps to take to assure what I'm buying is what I'm buying.

Thanks for the response.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:26 am
by Hikari
Buy dvd from people who got only or almost positive feedback check if they don't have tons of copys of the movie don't trust stock photo .Look for white amaray case round corner Don't buy from Malaysia or singapore be sure to know what the disc is looking like if you are buying used like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 12444&rd=1
is not the real disc artwork ...my little mermaid and 101 dalmatians I bought them with the upc code removed because of the rebate and inside it still had the rebate form in it.but I will probably sell them because it's not the best quality of dvd since they were the first they release and have not much of extra

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:32 am
by Lightyear
Look for white amaray case round corner
Can you show picture difference on this one...

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:45 am
by Hikari
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 36604&rd=1

the corner and case are great but the dvd seems to have been resealed because there is plastic which is over usually disney don't sealed their dvd this way so it seems to me that is a resealed dvd but the artwork and case seems to be authentic look this sealed is good

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 48425&rd=1

this is also a good one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 30434&rd=1

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:47 am
by Hikari
for Amaray it's the trademark of the dvd case disney is usually taking you can't really see it on the pictures but when you receive you dvd check inside it's supposed to be written somewhere

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:55 am
by Lightyear
Thanks for the information.. helps alot...

Question, You mentioned disk art being wrong.. Is there a spot you know of that shows you the real disc art of each disney DVD? I'd like to use it for comparison when shopping ebay.

Thanks again.. The information provided will help alot!

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:21 pm
by Lightyear
Another question.. On the disk itself, if you flip it over, you can see some coding on the disk (around the mounting hole), is this process easy to duplicate? Is that an easy way to authenticate a DVD?

Also, someone had mentioned the cases with the black DTS bar at the top, I can't find the post, what does that mean again? International DVD right?

Silly Symphonies DVD; do I have a bootleg?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:22 pm
by TM2-Megatron
I've been playing my Silly Symphonies Treasure DVD on my computer, recently; and the InfoTool that's part of Nero Express identified both discs as being Region 1 and 4. Just to make sure the InfoTool thing wasn't reading it incorrectly, I temporarily switched my DVD drive to Region 4; and the disc played fine. So I guess it really is both regions.

I did get this set from Ebay. However, what strikes me as odd is that everything about it other than the region coding seems authentic. The tin, the numbering imprinted onto the tin, etc. Fortunately, I didn't pay too much for it. However, I'd like to know.

Can anyone tell me for sure whether it's a bootleg or not? Or test their own Silly Symphonies, if anyone has Nero's InfoTool program, or something similar that will identify the region coding of a disc. If it's a bootleg, I suppose I'll have to get another sometime. Really irks me, though.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:03 am
by Mr. Toad
I would imagine it is real. Why would a bootlegger make it Region 1,4. Almost all bootleggs are Region Free.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:56 am
by TM2-Megatron
Mr. Toad wrote:I would imagine it is real. Why would a bootlegger make it Region 1,4. Almost all bootleggs are Region Free.
But why would a North American release be Regions 1 and 4? I mean, the tin, insert and discs themselves all have the 'Region 1' logo. Unless all the N.A. Silly Symphonies DVDs are Regions 1 and 4, there must be something weird about the one I have. I assume they were mass-produced all at the same time, with the same basic specs.

Again, if anyone who has the North American Silly Symphonies release, and can check what the region coding is, it'd be much appreciated. Or if anyone's heard of this anomaly before.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:50 am
by Little Red Henski
My Silly Symphonies DVD is regions 1 & 4. I don't know why Disney put region 1 & 4 they can't be targeting Latin Americans because there are no Spanish subs on the Silly Symphonies DVDs. I think Disney's Latin American DVDs are also actually regions 4 & 1.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:34 am
by MK Sharp
TM2-Megatron wrote:Again, if anyone who has the North American Silly Symphonies release, and can check what the region coding is, it'd be much appreciated. Or if anyone's heard of this anomaly before.
Yes, that's correct, the US release of Silly Symphonies is coded Regions 1 and 4; it's the only one that is, though. Mickey Mouse In Living Colour Vol 1 from the same wave is Region 1 only.

Meanwhile, the PAL releases of those two titles and Regions 2 and 4 (for the UK/Europe and Australia/NZ respectively). But of course they've been sped up for NTSC-PAL conversion and the music is noticeably sharp.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:10 pm
by TM2-Megatron
MK Sharp wrote:
TM2-Megatron wrote:Again, if anyone who has the North American Silly Symphonies release, and can check what the region coding is, it'd be much appreciated. Or if anyone's heard of this anomaly before.
Yes, that's correct, the US release of Silly Symphonies is coded Regions 1 and 4; it's the only one that is, though. Mickey Mouse In Living Colour Vol 1 from the same wave is Region 1 only.

Yeah, that's what really led me to post on here, asking about it. After noticing the weird region coding on "Silly Symphonies", I checked all the other Treasures I have and they were all Region 1.

Anyway, thanks for putting my mind at ease about it. I would've been annoyed had I actually bought a bootleg. Weird decision on Disney's part, though, adding the Region 4 coding to a U.S. release.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:05 am
by Starion
I think that the bar code around the center of the disc would be easy to duplicate with the right equipment.

I'm looking for the 1999 version of the Simba's Pride DVD. I found one on eBay. The seller is in Taiwan and the DVD has region codes 1/2/3/4/5/6 :?

The languages are English and Chinese. The seller only accepts Paypal and cash. Weird. o.O The seller's rating is %100 with 33 comments.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:25 am
by DaveWadding
Starion wrote:I think that the bar code around the center of the disc would be easy to duplicate with the right equipment.

I'm looking for the 1999 version of the Simba's Pride DVD. I found one on eBay. The seller is in Taiwan and the DVD has region codes 1/2/3/4/5/6 :?

The languages are English and Chinese. The seller only accepts Paypal and cash. Weird. o.O The seller's rating is %100 with 33 comments.
Bootleg.