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TheSequelOfDisney wrote:I didn't know where else to put this.

How about here?

Sotiris wrote:How about here?

Ahh, thank you! I still can't figure out how to use the search function ever since it changed.

TheSequelOfDisney wrote:Ahh, thank you! I still can't figure out how to use the search function ever since it changed.

No problem. I've created a thread about how to use the search function now that it's glitchy. Perhaps you'll find it useful.

Sotiris wrote:No problem. I've created a thread about how to use the search function now that it's glitchy. Perhaps you'll find it useful.

You'd think I would've seen that before now, haha Thanks!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/02/18/ ... -for-2015/

Rumours have sprung up again that Toy Story 4 is the unannounced Pixar film set for a 2015 release. No official announcement as of yet but it was apparently inevitable that we would get another Toy Story film so there might be something in this.

DisneyAnimation88 wrote:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/02/18/ ... -for-2015/

Rumours have sprung up again that Toy Story 4 is the unannounced Pixar film set for a 2015 release. No official announcement as of yet but it was apparently inevitable that we would get another Toy Story film so there might be something in this.

Am I the only one that feels like "enough with the Toy Stories already?"

Don't get me wrong, but after awhile I think most franchises aren't helped by sequel after sequel after sequel. Indiana Jones comes to mind . . . so does Pirates of the Carribbean.

(BTW, I'm totally cool with the Toy Story Toons)

3 ended things perfectly. There's little they can do to avoid a sense of repetitiveness.

PatrickvD wrote:There's little they can do to avoid a sense of repetitiveness.

A sense of repetitiveness was already present in Toy Story 3.

So, I don't know if this will make any sense... but does anyone else feel different about sequels when they have a subtitle, as opposed to a number? When sequels have a subtitle, I for some reason don't have any issue. It's much more likely to rub me the wrong the way if there is a number. Give me as many Pirates films as you want, I'm cool - same with James Bond, Harry Potter, etc. But Toy Story 4? No thanks.

Am I crazy?

SWillie! wrote:Does anyone else feel different about sequels when they have a subtitle, as opposed to a number?

I don't have a strong preference but it does sound less cheap when there's a subtitle instead of a number.

SWillie! wrote:Am I crazy?

Nah, a number implies its meant to be viewed only after the previous movies in the franchise where as a subtitle is more likely to stand on its own.

I dont like the idea of continuing regardless though. Its just too big of a risk. I would have been more at ease about this before Cars 2, but I don't want them to ruin their perfect record with Toy Story, which would have a lot more going against it than for.

I'm still going to hold out hope that this is just someone running with half truths and assumptions.

Sotiris wrote:

PatrickvD wrote:There's little they can do to avoid a sense of repetitiveness.

A sense of repetitiveness was already present in Toy Story 3.

Not really. By that logic, any sequel is repetitive.

This had better be a rumor. We do not need more sequels to tarnish Pixar's reputation any further. I really dread the day they announce a Cars 3 will be made.

PatrickvD wrote:Not really. By that logic, any sequel is repetitive.

No, I'm talking specifically about Toy Story 3. I felt that a lot of its themes and ideas were recycled from Toy Story 2.

NO NO NO

I gotta say this: I love Toy Story and I'm excited for the 4th one. But, c'mon, Disney! Toy Story 3 ended perfectly and there's nothing else to tell. Andy is at college and the toys moved on to a little girl. THE END. Plus, the 3rd one is going to lose what makes it special if a 4th one continues. And if Disney is going to be lazy by making sequels to Monster's Inc., Toy Story, Finding Nemo and Wreck-It Ralph, give us a Lion King 4 -_-

Isn't Lee Unkrich's Day of the Dead project their second 2015 release? Somehow, I doubt Disney would announce a sequel to a popular franchise only two years before its set release date.

I find all of this rather suspicious.

Sotiris wrote:

PatrickvD wrote:Not really. By that logic, any sequel is repetitive.

No, I'm talking specifically about Toy Story 3. I felt that a lot of its themes and ideas were recycled from Toy Story 2.

I always felt that TS3 was a continuation of the themes established in TS2 and even TS1. The second film ended things with Woody saying 'when it all ends, I'll have ol' Buzz Lightyear to keep me company'.

So while we don't actually see 'the end' as Woody probably implied in TS3, the subject of death and separation are taken to a new level. And it couldn't achieve that without continuing the already established themes from TS2.

Although I get what you're saying, I think the writing is strong enough to make the trilogy feel as one story. Each film addresses similar themes.

PatrickvD wrote:

Sotiris wrote: No, I'm talking specifically about Toy Story 3. I felt that a lot of its themes and ideas were recycled from Toy Story 2.

I always felt that TS3 was a continuation of the themes established in TS2 and even TS1. The second film ended things with Woody saying 'when it all ends, I'll have ol' Buzz Lightyear to keep me company'.

So while we don't actually see 'the end' as Woody probably implied in TS3, the subject of death and separation are taken to a new level. And it couldn't achieve that without continuing the already established themes from TS2.

Although I get what you're saying, I think the writing is strong enough to make the trilogy feel as one story. Each film addresses similar themes.

We didn't have to see what happened. Toy Story 2 ended on a perfect note with Woody accepting his mortality and resolving to enjoy his time left with Andy as best as he can. The movie had already established their stance on mortality and toys having their owners grow up is supposed to symbolism death. What did Toy Story 3 add to this? So the toys get the easy way out and get adopted by a new owner. Doesn't resolve anything, they will just have to go through the process all over again. All Toy Story 3 was to show the process of things happening, which is really unnecessary if it adds nothing to the story and to the themes.

And seriously, what was with Jessie's line, "It's like Emily all over again". The point of her character arc in TS2 was learning to accept love again, knowing the pain it would bring. All this thrown out the window with that one stupid line. That was the moment when I realized the writers had no clear idea on what they were doing, going for a bit of cheap drama at the expense of character development from the previous iterations.

And of course, it gets tiresome having yet another film about characters being separated from Andy and having to return to him.

estefan wrote:Isn't Lee Unkrich's Day of the Dead project their second 2015 release?

No. Oddly enough the Dia de los Muertos film is the only officially announced project that has not received a release date yet. If this had been the other film slated for 2015, Disney wouldn't had announced an "untitled Pixar film" for November 25, 2015.

So, it must either be Finding Nemo 2 (although that is reportedly slated for 2016), Toy Story 4, or a different project that we don't know about.

A Pixar rep on Toy Story 4 rumors: "We do not comment on speculation or rumors."

Source: http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/19/Toy- ... 361307400/

Disney has told Hypable that they are “investigating the source of this information in South America as nothing has officially been announced.” They have no further comment.

Source: http://www.hypable.com/2013/02/19/toy-s ... med-rumor/