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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:36 am
by JRawkSteady
See, the thing is - they can't shelve the films anymore. There are many Disnoids (like myself) who collect these movies to one day show their kids and so they'll always have the memories in their own home.

Now, I don't think these movies should have ever been released on video, but now that they've started, I don't believe they should stop...it would be like showing a dog some beef and then eating it yourself when he came to get it.

I have limited faith in Disney that they will not screw up Mermaid...but only time shall tell.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:17 pm
by Sailor Eric
I was thinking about this previously. I was worried about the features they'll include... I just wonder what they'll put because I don't know of anything they could put! I don't know if there's a "making of" or, if there's not, if there is enough material to make an adequate "Making of".
Then again, what I really want is the movie, especially with the remastering...
I could watch the movie because some friends have it, but I decided to wait for this release and be wondered by it!!!

Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:36 pm
by Sunset Girl
Sorry for deleting my post, but I wanted to clarify what I had to say without repeating myself too much. It seemed the best thing to do was start over. Anyway. . .
goofystitch wrote:I thought that since 1985 with "The Black Cauldron" Disney has been using computers to replace cells. Didn't Disney win an acadamy award for the special achievement for it? That sounds right to me because "Oliver and Company" has some CG elements in it, the film that preceeded "The Little Mermaid. And in TLM, the ripples on the sand and such look more like a computers work than a hand drawn cell, but I may have my facts mixed up. Could sombody clarify because I am confused and interested.
The CAPS system used for digitally coloring Disney's feature animation was not used until The LIttle Mermaid and that was for only a small part of the film. It wasn't put into full use until The Rescuers Down Under.

I have heard that The Black Cauldron was the first full-length Disney animated feature to use CGI, but I've yet to find exactly where. It was supposedly used on the cauldron, but every scene of it in animation looks like it could have easily been done by hand.

As for the computer effects in The Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company, the CGI was actually "drawn" by a special printer with a stylus onto the animation paper, and photocopied onto cels and hand-painted just like the hand-drawn animation.

As for the ripples in the underwater sequences of TLM, I believe it's an optical effect.

Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:39 am
by Joe Carioca
goofystitch wrote:I thought that since 1985 with "The Black Cauldron" Disney has been using computers to replace cells. Didn't Disney win an acadamy award for the special achievement for it? That sounds right to me because "Oliver and Company" has some CG elements in it, the film that preceeded "The Little Mermaid. And in TLM, the ripples on the sand and such look more like a computers work than a hand drawn cell, but I may have my facts mixed up. Could sombody clarify because I am confused and interested.
Actually, there was a new process developed for "The Black Cauldron". It was called APT (Animation Photo Transfer), in which the work of the artist was transfered with better quality to the animation cel than before. David W. Spencer was awarded with a technical Oscar for the development of the APT process.

Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:57 am
by bradhig
They can't shelve them if they want besides the cycle makes movies that haven't been released in a long time bootleg fodder.

Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:10 am
by tinkerbell-cup
i think it'll be a brilliant dvd with loads of special features