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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:31 am
by Jeremy
nedak wrote:I 've already said that I'm expecting more impressive water effects, but what I mean is something like the sea in the prince of egypt or in tarzan. It would be fabulous, wouldn't it? Ariel absolutely deserves it!
Yeah! Water is such an important element in these movies so it shoud be more real and lively. Water in The Little Mermaid II lookd dull and dead. But it is very difficult to animate... But CGI the water, Disney!

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:29 am
by Roklie
MickeyMousePal wrote:Snow white will have a sequel in 2008 with Snow White and the Eighth Dwarfs....
If I got it right back then when that thing leaked out it was just a foolish joke made up by someone, right?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:37 am
by Disney-Fan
nedak wrote:I 've already said that I'm expecting more impressive water effects, but what I mean is something like the sea in the prince of egypt or in tarzan. It would be fabulous, wouldn't it? Ariel absolutely deserves it!
You won't see that kind of water. That really is only feature animation level... Toon Studios doesn't get those kind of budgets. I agree though, Ariel deserves it!
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 6:26 am
by Jens
The DisneyToon Studios do get that budget. They have been searching for CGI artists for a while this year now as they want to mix CGI more in their titles. In Mulan II there was some CGI animation (the cart and some other things) and in Tarzan II they used Deep Canvas and other CGI enviroments.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:01 am
by Mermaid Kelly
Roklie wrote: The plot I would'nt like to see at all is "The adventures of Melody's daughter", I mean Ariel as a grandmother.. Oh my god.

Ohhhh GOD!!!!!!1 I hope not!!!!!!!!

I am literally praying for a pre- (or mid) -quel!!!!!!!!!!!
As I had said in another thread, I'd love a prequel where we can see baby/toddler Ariel and Flounder (and also all of Ariel's sisters as babies/toddlers!) Plus we'll find out about Ariel's mother, as well as King Triton and Ursula's past!

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:04 am
by Mermaid Kelly
Siren wrote:The series was better then the sequal, IMO LOL
And there was one episode where Triton became young again. He had red hair and he was a trouble maker. And he wonders where Ariel gets it from
And they had an episode where Ariel and Flounder first met. And a few episodes where she gets glimpses of Eric before she actually saw his face
I remember the series...and both of those episodes! I can never remember the names of the episodes though

Oh well....hopefully the series will come to dvd

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:26 am
by Joe Carioca
You can find a good episode guide for "The Little Mermaid" series
here. There were some not-so-good episodes, but overall it was a nice series (I loved it at the time it first aired). I also had all of them taped on VHS.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:36 am
by Disney-Fan
Jens wrote:The DisneyToon Studios do get that budget. They have been searching for CGI artists for a while this year now as they want to mix CGI more in their titles. In Mulan II there was some CGI animation (the cart and some other things) and in Tarzan II they used Deep Canvas and other CGI enviroments.
Do you honestly believe that they would produce Prince of Egypt-like water in the near future? I don't.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:53 am
by Jens
What's so special about "Princ of Egypt water"?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:05 am
by Siren
It was CGI water and it looked really neat. Better then the water in the sequal
But I do believe water can be handdrawn and just as good. Look at the water in Pinocchio. The detail was gorgeous. You felt like you were IN the water with them, while in Little Mermaid, you felt like you were watching an aquarium.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:10 am
by Disney-Fan
Jens wrote:What's so special about "Princ of Egypt water"?

It just looks, so... How do I say it? Right... Fitted perfectly and seemed very real. Can't say the same about The Little Mermaid II's water.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:15 am
by Jens
Well The Prince of Egypt is more "real" story... I don't think I have ever met a talking crab, fish or even mermaid!

But I see your point... Let's just see. The Little Mermaid III is only in pre-production now probably. It can still be scrapped.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:48 am
by Siren
Just because a movie is about a fantastical creature like a mermaid, doesn't mean it should look no less realistic. As I said, Pincchio's water was gorgeous and it was a about a talking puppet and also had a fairy, a talking cricket and fox. Boys turns into donkeys. And so on. Just because it's not based one a story that some consider true, doesn't mean it shouldn't get a good treatment. Lord the Rings was nothing but fantasy, but they went and made that realistic.
Why not make the water more realistic? It is like another world. Like Wizard of Oz did the artistic touch of making Dorothy's Kansas home drab and black and white, while Oz was full of fantastic colors. I think it would be nice to do the same with land and sea. Melody could have saw the land boring and full of bores. While the ocean was this fantastic, beautiful place like nothing she ever saw before. And then in the end, she found that land and sea both have their beauty.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:28 am
by Jens
I realized that I was talking nonsence when I re-read my post after reading your post

My point is: Why do realistic water in The Little Mermaid III when there was no realistic water in the movies before it? I mean, that would be like updating Ariel with a new nose or other facial features

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:49 am
by MickeyMousePal
Come on people The Little Mermaid 3 can't be as bad as The Little Mermaid 2.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:57 am
by Jens
Don't you mean:
Come on people The Little Mermaid 3 can't be as bad as The Little Mermaid 2.
?
If so, I don't think The Little Mermaid II was that bad... It has fun characters and nice songs + some emotional, dramatical and action scenes

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:02 am
by MickeyMousePal
Well I enjoyed The Little Mermaid 2 but not as much as the first.
I'm not saying it suck it was enjoyable for a direct to DVD.
Looking fowards for TLM 3.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:07 am
by Jens
I don't think I have enjoyed ANY sequel more than the original. A sequel doesn't have to either...
Seeing the DisneyToon Studio's track record I think the following sequels will be way better thought-out and animated than the old sequels. That's why I think it's a good thing The Little Mermaid will finally get a decent sequel

Hi
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:44 am
by Disney Guru
For once I agree with Jens,
Seeing the DisneyToon Studio's track record I think the following sequels will be way better thought-out and animated than the old sequels. That's why I think it's a good thing The Little Mermaid will finally get a decent sequel
I think that Little Mermaid III will be a very nice sequel. I personally am excited to see it.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:07 pm
by Alice
bradhig wrote:I would rather see a Sleeping Beauty triolgy then another TLM sequel.
You mean the Anne Rice ones ??
The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty / Beauty's Punishment / Beauty's Release
Siren wrote:
But I do believe water can be handdrawn and just as good. Look at the water in Pinocchio. The detail was gorgeous. You felt like you were IN the water with them, while in Little Mermaid, you felt like you were watching an aquarium.
BAHAHAHAHAHA!