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It's not always the husband or wife though but whatever they wish in their will. I'm actually in a position that if something happens I have to decide whether or not they should be taken off life support although I would not do such a thing without the wife's decision. Ultimately it's my decision but I'm goint to listen to others of course.

Lightyear wrote:I understand we all have our views on many subjects and many issues... But one thing I can never understand, never grasp.. is this..

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4325719/detail.html

These are the people that make the world a horrid place sometimes.

Oh that's crazy.

I'm always worried aobut crazy people like that although not as much as I used to be. I'm someone who most people like but there are atleast two people out there who seem to really really hate me and for a while I worried that one of them might do something stupid like that. Not the same situation but crazy like that.

2099net wrote:Just read this:
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/0 ... 05107.html

And then wonder about the whole publicity grabbing taint on the whole affair. And also consider most of the funding for keeping Terry alive is coming from the soon to be slashed Medicaid funds. How does keeping one person alive, against their Husband's wishes compare to the countless deaths which will be the result, either directly, or indirectly, of those cuts?

It's been turned into a political ploy in which they play on the emotions of people to get what they want... I don't think the government should have any involvment whatsoever.. And it angers me to no end to see soldiers being forgotten.

orestes. wrote:

Lightyear wrote:I understand we all have our views on many subjects and many issues... But one thing I can never understand, never grasp.. is this..

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4325719/detail.html

These are the people that make the world a horrid place sometimes.

Oh that's crazy.

I'm always worried aobut crazy people like that although not as much as I used to be. I'm someone who most people like but there are atleast two people out there who seem to really really hate me and for a while I worried that one of them might do something stupid like that. Not the same situation but crazy like that.

I don't know anyone that I can think of that would hurt me for a reason, but I in no way think I'm exempt from that happening to me.. I worry about stuff like that more for my nephews that I do for myself.. All tho I'm 34, I feel that I've lived my life.. I had the pleasures of growing up, Had a childhood.. Hate to see them lose that. Growing old is the 2nd stage of the life.. but I'd easily trade that so I would know my nephews were able to live a full childhood.

I just don't understand how someone can be so angry that Terri is being "killed" in his/her mind that they can justify saying "If she dies, I will kill you and your family" .. Where is the logic in that thinking?

Lightyear wrote:It's been turned into a political ploy in which they play on the emotions of people to get what they want... I don't think the government should have any involvment whatsoever.. And it angers me to no end to see soldiers being forgotten.

It's terrible isn't it? I think i've heard more about Terry than about the soldiers fighting!

Look how corrupt this world has become!
I think people should just leave the Schiavo family alone...

But I guess when this world wants news, the gotta get it where it affects the heart of people.

I am surprised that the recent school shooting didn't get more attention. On the day of the school shooting, the news channels main focus was still Terry. I was shocked.

well i belive that terri will be better in the sky.

I think this is no one's business besides the families. Mr. Jeb or George Busch should not be able to act like they are or are not God.

castleinthesky wrote:I think this is no one's business besides the families. Mr. Jeb or George Busch should not be able to act like they are or are not God.

Well they haven't done anything directly with Schiavo's case other than offer their opinion to the public and the courts (ok well Jeb requested guardianship), but that's all routine practice. Even if they were to take direct involvement, though, it wouldn't be without precedent (and the precedent was even set by democrats! ).

-Aaron

awallaceunc wrote:

castleinthesky wrote:I think this is no one's business besides the families. Mr. Jeb or George Busch should not be able to act like they are or are not God.

Well they haven't done anything directly with Schiavo's case other than offer their opinion to the public and the courts (ok well Jeb requested guardianship), but that's all routine practice. Even if they were to take direct involvement, though, it wouldn't be without precedent (and the precedent was even set by democrats! ).

-Aaron

Well I thought Jeb put her back on the tube around six months ago.

I know that in 2003 Florida's legislature passed "Terri's Law" (I believe was the name of it) and the feeding tube was reinserted. The law was later delcared unconstitutional by Florida's state Supreme Court. I'm not sure exactly what occured just after that. The FL legislature has made subsequent attempts at passing laws that would keep Terri alive but none of them have gone through. Of course that's all rudimentary, within the legislature's power, and not really Jeb's doing (though he can publicy and privately support/condemn and sign/veto).

-Aaron

MickeyMousePal wrote:Loomis I'm only writing what my heart is saying. I'm not making this a debate it's my opinion. This isn't justice this is torture. I'm not against it or with the judge decision but the courts do have more power. So letting Terry starve is the best answer? So how can the parents win?

Yes, but when your opinion is based on something that has no basis in fact (i.e. "I say the parents should win the husband cares less for his wife"), I feel as though it is only fair that someone should point that out to you. If you opinion is based on full knowledge of the facts - which in this case is impossible, because it comes down to a personal relationship between families - then it is a valid one.

RJKD23 wrote:It's terrible isn't it? I think i've heard more about Terry than about the soldiers fighting!

Yup, you said a mouthful. I was only saying the same thing to someone this morning. In essence, the media have made a circus over what should be a very personal - but no less difficult - decision. However, a world leader sending many lives off to be terminated barely gets a news story any more.

Even our current affairs this morning had a story about someone who came out of such a situation, and is leading a "normal" life now. Of course, every case is different, but it has become a point that the media are pushing.

I always found it ironic that George Bush was against abortion and euthanasia, but for pre-emptive strikes.

danamichelle wrote:I don't understand why people do this either. Anyone would threatens relatives, judges, attorney's, etc. is totally out of their mind.

Heh, pro-lifers that kill. It's irony at a base level, but you can still get a chuckle. In the words of Bill Hicks:

"If you're so pro-life, do me a favour - don't lock arms and block medical clinics. If you're so pro-life, lock arms and block cemetaries. Let's see how committed you are to this idea."

Well, she passed away now, so I think this arguement is over. Now the Pope is on a feeding tube and the Vatican is trying to keep Terri Schiavo's husband away because they don't want the Pope to get unhooked from the feeding tube!

Oops! CNN is still debating this, I think that she's still alive. Damn Entertainment Tonight and their mis-information!

Yeah, apparently CBSNews.com accidentally posted their draft obituary for Schiavo in an online file and that led to the temporary confusion. Every news outlet I've checked is reporting that she's still alive.

-Aaron

danamichelle wrote:I am surprised that the recent school shooting didn't get more attention. On the day of the school shooting, the news channels main focus was still Terry. I was shocked.

Yeah- wtf is up with that?! I thought the President was going to make this big address to the nation and MTV would run specials for weeks on this and that millions upon millions of people would approach me in the street to tell me nearly another dozen people were slaughtered in another school shooting. I mean- didn't anyone here even know about that? Should I be shocked that no one's talking about the school shooting, or should I be shocked that anyone actually does know about it? Maybe this is all a coverup by conservatives to keep the public's attention on the Shiavo case... Maybe school shootings are only good for Democrats...

And about that guy who threatened Terri Shiavo's sister-in-law... all I have to say is- why? Who is this woman and what makes her a murderer? I don't think she has anything to do with Terri Shiavo's case. But it makes sense that the person who threatens a life is the same kind of person who sides with the conservatives- they're all the biggest hypocrits.

I don't want to be controversial, but South Park did a satirical episode of this case yesterday and it had Kenny ending up in the hospital in the same state as Terri Shiavo. The lawyer lost the last page of his will and not untill the the whole fiasco with both sides fighting over his condition was broadcast live on CNN, was this last page found. It said: "and if I ever end up in a life long coma, please, for the love of God, do not show me on National Television" ( )

Now I'm not taking a side or whatever, I keep that to myself since I don't want to end up in a debate with anyone. But that episode was pretty funny And yeah, there are way more important matters in the world. It's annoying how this whole case has gone political, I find it hard to imagine that in times like these, politicians apparently don't have anything better to do

Guys, there's no real proof that Terry's braindead. She regognizes people, and she can breathe on her own, something that someone who is braindead can't do.

As for my opinion, what her husband is doing is cruel. I don't think she deserves to die, and even if she does, she shouldn't be starved to death. The though of withering away to nothing is creepy.

It's official, she passed away.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html

Yeah I saw that. I'm watching CNN now too. I don't know what to think about what is being said about the husband.

Well this is quite sad, indeed. My thoughts prayers go out to her family and friends, I'm sure this is very hard for them and I hope that they and the situation are treated with respect.

Lazario wrote:But it makes sense that the person who threatens a life is the same kind of person who sides with the conservatives- they're all the biggest hypocrits.

Well that's unfortunate, that you can't distinguish an ideological viewpoint from a violent extremist. I could say the same for a whole host of people who side with the liberals (I could even throw out the "hypocrite" term, which inherently implies hypocrisy itself- at least in most cases) who have threatened/acted on violence as well, but I realize how ridiculous that is.

PatrickVD wrote:And yeah, there are way more important matters in the world.

I can't think of one.

PatrickVD wrote:It's annoying how this whole case has gone political, I find it hard to imagine that in times like these, politicians apparently don't have anything better to do.

It hasn't gone political. It's been political. It's in the hands of the court, who establishes binding legal precedent that potentially effects the life of every American were they to find themselves or someone they know in the same position. It's also a matter of congressional legislation as our society must again decide what we allow and don't in terms of life and death.

-Aaron