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Actually you rase a good point 2099net about sticking a fork in the toaster or something of the same thing. I think I would want that cut from a U film because that sounds like the kind of thing I used to do. After seeing "The Little Mermaid" I tried combing my sisters hair with a fork and it got stuck and we had to nearly cut all her hair off to get it out. Thats the first time I've thought of it like that.

As for Hunchback being a U, I've always wondered the same. I also think the scene when the horned king gets ripped apart in "The Black Cauldron" is quite freaky and am shocked that film is a U. The bbfc are quite strange when it comes to rating things.

Our Black Cauldron was PG (Parental Guidence Suggested), as was Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch, and Treasure Planet. I think that the ratings are all wrong. Maybe they should let the companies rate them to save us all the pain and agony about thinking about it!

Captain Hook wrote: Maybe they should let the companies rate them to save us all the pain and agony about thinking about it!

Oooh....then everything would be G.
The problem here, as 2099 pointed out in part, is not so much that these films contain certain things that have to be cut out, it is that the companies are insisting on a G-rating. If Disney had been willing to cop a PG (or whatever the next level up in the UK is), then the scenes would have stayed in.

If Disney had the ultimate say, you'd have the offending scenes in AND a G rating. The noone (except Disney) would be happy.

I am caught on this issue. As much as I hate seeing stuff cut out, I agree some things are influential on kids. Then again, that take the attitude all kids are empty vessels waiting to be filled by TV. Some kids will play with electricity - hopefully with a good education, most won't.

All it would take, really, is:
1) for Disney to cop a PG rating;
2) Give better guidelines on the front of the packaging. I mean, the PG for Treasure Planet here just said 'Contains some violence'. Well, that could mean ANYTHING....

Loomis wrote:I mean, the PG for Treasure Planet here just said 'Contains some violence'. Well, that could mean ANYTHING....

I thought that Hercules had more violence. I really liked Treasure Planet.

Actually, if studios rated things themselves, everything would be PG-13 cause that's the "cool" rating that can make an old woman beg, make an old woman squeal, bring in young ones and old ones and get the most return on their investment. Wait a minute, everything already IS rated PG-13. Okay, so two summer blockbusters have been R, I guess that's more than any summer since 2000.

Aaaaaaanyway, of course, the Disney and Disney Lite (i.e. DreamWorks) would be shooting for G or PG as appropriate.

My favorite MPAA rating explanation is for "Frank & Ollie":
PG
For a moment of language and a brief view of a nude drawing.

Luke wrote: For a moment of language and a brief view of a nude drawing.

They speak in the film??
My lord! That's obscene!

Luke wrote: My favorite MPAA rating explanation is for "Frank & Ollie":
PG
For a moment of language and a brief view of a nude drawing.

So the Simpsons was right. America would try to censor Michelangelo's David?

2099net wrote:

Luke wrote: My favorite MPAA rating explanation is for "Frank & Ollie":
PG
For a moment of language and a brief view of a nude drawing.

So the Simpsons was right. America would try to censor Michelangelo's David?

Most certainly.

Having now seen the R1 disc it looks like the cuts were for shots of Stitch and later Lilo hotwiring a car (and a spaceship).

As I've mentioned before the BBFC has a thing about Hotwiring (to be fair to them, I think that they are only enforcing a govenment ruling). For example one of our Buffy sets has a hotwiring scene edited out as it would not be allowed at all - not even on an 18 rating. Fox has no issues with the Buffy or Angel sets being released as 18 certificate - Angel season 1 is rated 18.

However, I doubt showing a cartoon hotwiring of two sparking wires being joined together would convince any toddlers to go on a joyriding crime spree. And why allow the same shots for a PG certificate?

Needless to say, I do not support the BBFC ruling in this case.

Just to add:
Stitch! The Movie has just been classified by the OFLC as 'G' (which is the general one obviously).
The OFLC is not as specific as the BBFC, but under version it said 'revised'. I'm not exactly sure what this means (but for comparison, one of the upcoming Pooh releases said 'original' under the same banner).
Perhaps this means the Australian market will be getting a slightly edited version too?

I think it is best to get the R1 copy if one can...

Loomis wrote:I think it is best to get the R1 copy if one can...

As always... excepting Peter Pan.