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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:56 pm
by Noriel
*sniffles* Our Disney is growin up...

They grow up so fast. *sniffle*

:wink:

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:17 pm
by JiminyCrick91
Just Myself wrote:The 1980's had a way of bending rules. They say 'F__k' in Big twice, and it was PG. Had this been today, it would be an R. Really pathetic when you think about it.
Also "The trail of the Pink Panther" has a small scene with topless ladies and is also PG

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:18 pm
by Sunset Girl
Just Myself wrote:The 1980's had a way of bending rules. They say 'F***' in Big twice, and it was PG. Had this been today, it would be an R. Really pathetic when you think about it.
Well, regardless of the audiences' changing priorites, I think people have a different set of standards for a movie with the Disney label. Not Hollywood, not Touchtone, but the actual word Disney in the label. And Big was a Fox movie, wasn't it?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:20 pm
by Just Myself
Yes, it was. I'm just saying that the MPAA's sense of censorship is too safe today- like someone said earlier, the media thinks we're living in the 50's. :roll:

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:26 pm
by Ciaobelli
Isidour wrote:Wait a second!!!!!!!!!

Pulp fiction it´s Disney?!?!!?!??!
this is truth?!?!?!?
Man, Tarantino and Disney.... :o :shock: :o :shock: :jawdrop: :o

but hey, have you heard the ¿swear? "a pain in the...--another word for donkey :wink: --"? well, how about if you change the ass for a painfeathers?

that´s a dialogue of the friend owl in Bambi
On the CE dvd of PF there is the Michael Moore interview w/ Quentin and Moore calls PF his favorite Disney movie of the year :lol:

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:28 pm
by Sunset Girl
Just Myself wrote:Yes, it was. I'm just saying that the MPAA's sense of censorship is too safe today- like someone said earlier, the media thinks we're living in the 50's. :roll:
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, I just think that people's priorities get really messed up sometimes.

For example, now that audio CD's get rated just like movies do, why does Wal-mart still insist on carrying edited music but has no problem with carrying R-rated DVD's?

I've heard how many parents say, "You can't put something like that in a Disney movie," frowning on the supposedly subliminal images in Lion King and Aladdin, but laughing their butts off over the Shrek films and Shark Tale! What gives?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:44 pm
by Just Myself
I know. I'm all for the Shrek movies and Shark Tale, but I don't get people who make a fuss over such little things. Ever since Janet Jackson's Super Bowl stint, everyone's in censorship overdrive. It drives me NUTS!

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:53 pm
by MickeyMousePal
JustMyself Wrote:
I know. I'm all for the Shrek movies and Shark Tale, but I don't get people who make a fuss over such little things. Ever since Janet Jackson's Super Bowl stint, everyone's in censorship overdrive. It drives me NUTS!
Well, networks don't want to get sued by viewers for showing improper material. Even FOX cover the animated nude butts from The Simpson's and American Dad. This is going overboard parents are responsible for their children and what they see on television. Young Adults and Adults can watch what they want it’s their choice. How about CSI they show dead bodies why doesn't CBS stop showing the bodies?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:54 pm
by Sunset Girl
Just Myself wrote:I know. I'm all for the Shrek movies and Shark Tale, but I don't get people who make a fuss over such little things. Ever since Janet Jackson's Super Bowl stint, everyone's in censorship overdrive. It drives me NUTS!
Exactly! And you couldn't even see anything! Good lord, everyone's been over-reacting to a natural body part that wasn't even fully exposed for that split-second to begin with!

My fiance works in radio and had to attend a meeting that drew out his station's interpretation of what is considered obscene by the FCC within days of the Janet incident. Sadly, the FCC has turned it into a guessing game! Broadcasters everywhere are pulling things that were once considered appropriate out of fear of being fined!

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:15 am
by Ciaobelli
Just Myself wrote:I know. I'm all for the Shrek movies and Shark Tale, but I don't get people who make a fuss over such little things. Ever since Janet Jackson's Super Bowl stint, everyone's in censorship overdrive. It drives me NUTS!
I just don't get it, coming from Italy it simply makes no sense to me. In Italy we had a commercial for bottled water that featured a topless woman (in full sunlight) walking around and then gettin to the bottle, ad thats it. It didn't make the headlines, because people there are not as sexually repressed. If someone would have tried to sue the makers of the commercials they would have been laughed at. America is pretty ridiculous I must say.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:17 am
by Sunset Girl
Ciaobelli wrote:I just don't get it, coming from Italy it simply makes no sense to me. In Italy we had a commercial for bottled water that featured a topless woman (in full sunlight) walking around and then gettin to the bottle, ad thats it. It didn't make the headlines, because people there are not as sexually repressed. If someone would have tried to sue the makers of the commercials they would have been laughed at. America is pretty ridiculous I must say.
I'll agree with ya there. Americans are way too uptight about this kind of thing. But since it's such "forbidden fruit" to see exposed breasts here, I guess that automatically makes it an overtly sexual thing and that's when people get uncomfortable.

And based on this same principle, imagine how scandalous it was to see a lady's ankles exposed about a century ago! Or even just a few decades ago when Jeannie wasn't allowed to expose her belly-button on TV! Yeesh.

Did anyone really think about the song that was playing during the Janet incident? The last line of it is "I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this song!" Why was there no complaints about that? I swear, the lyrics in today's music make the idea of exposed breasts seem rather tame. I mean, I can't even play the radio for the kids in my program because it's gotten so bad! Talk about irony here.

I don't like the way Americans give the human body such negative connotations and how girls are particularly susceptible to a poor body image. And maybe I'm weird for thinking so, or maybe I got warped into the idea when I was in art school and had to draw from live, nude models. But there was a definite over-reaction to Janet Jackson. At the very most, they should have fined her since she knew better. But to fine all the networks that aired the incident? I mean, come on! She knew the standards that are acceptible here for network TV; I'm sure this all would have been a different story had it aired on a cable network.

I watched Titantic not too long ago when it aired on one of the networks and had to laugh at the inconsitancy they had with blurring out certain areas of Jack's drawings. Drawings, people! The kinds you see in museums! Why did they bother blurring out some but leaving others in tact?

Sigh. I don't get it.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:22 pm
by Nala
I just watched Titanic last night on DVD and Jack's drawing's didn't seem that they had been blurred out. That's one of the reasons I like the DVD as things like that aren't blurred out and you get to see the movie the way it was supposed to be. Titanic is a 3+ hour movie.

BTW, how long was the movie on the network you saw it on?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:34 pm
by Sunset Girl
Nala wrote:I just watched Titanic last night on DVD and Jack's drawing's didn't seem that they had been blurred out. That's one of the reasons I like the DVD as things like that aren't blurred out and you get to see the movie the way it was supposed to be. Titanic is a 3+ hour movie.

BTW, how long was the movie on the network you saw it on?
Oh shoot, it's been a while so I don't remember. I didn't catch the beginning of it, anyway.

But most of the drawings that Jack initially showed Rose were blurred in certain areas.

And of course they carefully chose what shots of Rose to leave in when she was posing nude so they weren't shwing anything "offensive." But curiously enough, they didn't blur out any detail in that drawing. Go figure.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:05 pm
by Nala
Sunset Girl wrote:
Nala wrote:I just watched Titanic last night on DVD and Jack's drawing's didn't seem that they had been blurred out. That's one of the reasons I like the DVD as things like that aren't blurred out and you get to see the movie the way it was supposed to be. Titanic is a 3+ hour movie.

BTW, how long was the movie on the network you saw it on?
Oh shoot, it's been a while so I don't remember. I didn't catch the beginning of it, anyway.

But most of the drawings that Jack initially showed Rose were blurred in certain areas.

And of course they carefully chose what shots of Rose to leave in when she was posing nude so they weren't shwing anything "offensive." But curiously enough, they didn't blur out any detail in that drawing. Go figure.
Well the movie starts off with the present day and they show pictures of the real Titanic on the bottom of the Atlantic. The movie is 3 hours and 14 minutes long. I had originally bought the VHS in FS and just recently bought the DVD in WS at Wal-Mart. The VHS was 2 tapes and the DVD is 1 disc. I like watching a movie at once instead of switching discs l ike I had to do with the VHS.

I'm surprised they cut out scenes and blurred over some. The movie won 11 Academy Awards.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:15 pm
by Sunset Girl
Nala wrote:Well the movie starts off with the present day and they show pictures of the real Titanic on the bottom of the Atlantic. The movie is 3 hours and 14 minutes long. I had originally bought the VHS in FS and just recently bought the DVD in WS at Wal-Mart. The VHS was 2 tapes and the DVD is 1 disc. I like watching a movie at once instead of switching discs l ike I had to do with the VHS.

I'm surprised they cut out scenes and blurred over some. The movie won 11 Academy Awards.
Well, I did see the whole film in the theater and once again when it first came out on VHS, so it's been a while. I remember the drawings pretty clearly though since I've done some life drawing myself, and was really annoyed by the editing that the network did. But now that everyone's so worried about FCC fines, I don't know why I expected any less.

Like I said, the thing that got to me was the inconsistancy with the edits. Yeah, let's haze out the nipples on all of Jack's artwork. Oh wait, let's not haze them out of his drawing of Rose. What the heck?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:24 pm
by Zoltack
The 1980's had a way of bending rules. They say 'Fuck' in Big twice, and it was PG. Had this been today, it would be an R. Really pathetic when you think about it.
They say:
F@ck once
Sh$t like 7 times
and asshole like 10 times in Spaceballs and its rated PG. Like I said society has changed we use to be cool man.