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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:04 pm
by KinOO
i'm not an animator so it is not my job to make an ape appealing, you should ask to the guys over Pixar or Ghibli, they have a sense of art far more developped than those ToonStudios (where is the art when your goal is to make sequels to pre established characters...)
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:06 pm
by 2099net
Now, as you know, I defendd the sequels (in principle) but admit most are disappointing to various extents (in practice). In fact the only sequels I do think are more than just diversions are Return to Never Land, and to a slightly lesser extent Scamp's Adventure. I actually think The Lion King 1.5 is a rather poor film, and mostly pointless (but I do like the opening when it is not having to stick to the Lion King storyline).
Anyhow, I am totally perplexed why Disney is doing a midquel for Tarzan. The Tarzan legacy is huge - absolutely huge, and Disney had so many opportunities to pick from, I just cannot fathom they they are going for Young Tarzan.
From a quick poll of my daughter and some of her friends, nobody wants to see Young Tarzan*. They want to see old Tarzan having "grown up" adventures, and "fighting lions and tigers and giant snakes".
* These were all girls. Perhaps young boys do identify more with Young Tarzan.
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:16 pm
by ichabod
I agree Netty, I would much rather have seen a Sequel featuring adult Tarzan and Jane. Young Tarzan has absolutely no hook for me! It would indeed have made a far more interesting and probably a more valid sequel!
I expect Disney's main thinking is that Young Tarzan will probably be more attractive to the wee ones. Also they probably feel they've covered adult Tarzan with the TV series and the previous "Tarzan and Jane" film.
Idiots!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:32 pm
by Luke
Updated the first post with 4 new stills from the film itself. Artistically, these are more compelling. But thematically, they don't exactly have me swinging and beating my chest. More to come.
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:35 pm
by RJKD23
wowwee!

thanks for the pictures Luke!
well, TARZAN II looks like a better animation than Tarzan & Jane
those bamboos...something about it makes it look 3-D. I dunno.
but, I still can't wait to watch this.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:36 pm
by Luke
RJKD23 wrote:well, TARZAN II looks like a better animation than Tarzan & Jane


I'm glad they're not going for the characters frequently covered by shadows look with this one!
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:32 am
by Sailor Eric
I think the pics are gorgeous as in artistic style and visuals in general... Really nice. I'm actually looking forward to this movie!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:17 am
by ichabod
Well when I first saw those first 2 stills I was severely unimpressed. However I have to say that these new stills are of a much better quality in my opinion. I think they show off how good the animation and the effects will be.
Hopefully the majority of the movie will look like as good as the latter.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:44 am
by Luke
3 more...
<img src="
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/t-v/tarz2b5.jpg">
Terk, Tarzan, and the baby apes enjoy a rumble in the jungle.
<img src="
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/t-v/tarz2b6.jpg">
A frightened hippopotamus runs through Dark Mountain after hearing the cry of the dreaded "monster" Zugor.
<img src="
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/t-v/tarz2b7.jpg">
Tarzan leaves his "family" behind and sets off to find who he is. Ribbit!
Tarzan II Links
Press Release
Preorder
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:32 am
by Disney-Fan
I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm still not impressed. It looks way too childish, even for a cheapquel.
EDIT: How rude of me! Thank you for the screens!

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:55 am
by Noriel
Tarzan II will be interesting to see. I'll probably rent it before purchasing it.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:37 am
by Ciaobelli
I migt rent it, first I'll read Luke's review though.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:11 pm
by RJKD23
Ciaobelli wrote:I migt rent it, first I'll read Luke's review though.
Oh yes of course!

Luke, your review is NECESSARY for me.
It basically tells me if the movie is worth buying!

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:13 pm
by Sailor Eric
It seems cute, I'm still interested.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:43 pm
by KinOO
Still look cheap to me, the Toad gag seen a thousand times (Kuzco, Stitch) seems to find a new way to Tarzan2... And the rhinoceros is ridiculous...
negative me? yes
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:18 pm
by Jens
I give up...
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:09 pm
by Simba Kimball
The look in these newer stills is much better than the earlier two. I concur with the opinions about young Tarzan being less interesting. Looks like it will bore me as a filmgoer, but possibly entertain me as an animation enthusiast.
I can't help but think that there would be more animation-value in having an older Tarzan, fighting creatures and 'tree-surfing' in deep-canvas(or the lower grade Disneytoon equivalent). Those were the best things in the original film, and it seems like they're leaving out every good thing that film had to offer.
I agree that the frog gag looks dumb, and I also think the frog design is weak.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:17 pm
by PatrickvD
what the heck are these characters on??? seriously..
This one in particular freaked me out
Although the animation looks fine. I'm kind of dissapointed the backgrounds fail to live up to the originals background. Stitch has a glitch does appear to live up. This one sadly does not. Thos midquel story better be really good.
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:41 pm
by Jens
Well, to compare the style from the sequel to the original movie I have pasted the Tarzan II young Tarzan on the original young Tarzan from a screenshot of the original movie. This is the result:
Yes, Tarzan II is way lighter than the original movie so I had to darken Tarzan a little to fit in... But would you really notice it?
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:51 pm
by PatrickvD
Jens wrote:Well, to compare the style from the sequel to the original movie I have pasted the Tarzan II young Tarzan on the original young Tarzan from a screenshot of the original movie. This is the result:
Yes, Tarzan II is way lighter than the original movie so I had to darken Tarzan a little to fit in... But would you really notice it?
I'm serious when I say I do. The lightning used in DTV's often reminds me of... plastic.

They hardly ever get the colors right. And although the background art has improved in DTV's it leaves a lot to be desired. But then I don't really expect it to live up to the beauty of the original Tarzans backgrounds. They are so detailed... it's scary.
nice comparison though, thanks for sharing