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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:15 am
by karlsen
2099net wrote:It's unlikely a decent looking Oswald set would be released - if Disney spends money on restoration, they would risk other companies releasing the shots from Disney's remasters. The same problem plagues an Alice or Laugh-O-Gram set.
But could not Disney own the remasterd peice? I thought that remastering was copywrighted in itself so Disney could copywrite their own remastered version?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:39 am
by 2099net
karlsen wrote:
2099net wrote:It's unlikely a decent looking Oswald set would be released - if Disney spends money on restoration, they would risk other companies releasing the shots from Disney's remasters. The same problem plagues an Alice or Laugh-O-Gram set.
But could not Disney own the remasterd peice? I thought that remastering was copywrighted in itself so Disney could copywrite their own remastered version?
Yes, they would own the new copyright. But in the past it has been hard to demonstrate in court that a specific restoration has been reused. This is why the Rocky and Bullwinkle sets have idents in the opening seconds. And again, everybody complains about the idents :roll:

It really most likely wouldn't be worth Disney doing. Mark the restorations with something to identify them and people would complain. Leave then "clean" and they would most probably be reused elsewhere.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:54 am
by DisneyGirl
humphreybear wrote:Did you know that Donald in Mathmagicland is available in the US on dvd, as part of Disney's educational series? It is a bit expensive (I think around $60).
If you just want to watch it, and not own it (though I'm sure this is the wrong crowd to say that too), you can probably rent it from Blockbuster or your local Library. I go to the Library every so often to rent movies I don't have. Our library is one dollar for seven days, what a deal!

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:47 am
by karlsen
2099net wrote:Yes, they would own the new copyright. But in the past it has been hard to demonstrate in court that a specific restoration has been reused. This is why the Rocky and Bullwinkle sets have idents in the opening seconds. And again, everybody complains about the idents :roll:
Ok, I understand that.

But instead of saying that they could not make money from it I would rather say that Disney should do it in the best way they can with protection. There are so many ways to watermark things now so it should be no problem for Disney to do this without anybody notising.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:59 am
by 2099net
Well, there are digital watermarks, like you can get on JPEG photos, which leave no visible marks or artifacts on display. However, while this may stop digital to digital transfers (I don't actually know about this) any copy is likely to be a digital > analogue > digital copy, which would remove any digital protections (as well as degrade the image slightly, thus making it harder to identify conclusively as a copy).

Disney could do something like blacking in/whiting out certain elements on the screen (sombody's clothing perhaps), in much the same way many maps have intentional "mistakes" in order to identify copies, I suppose. But that would still be altering the originals, which may upset some people.