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BonusMage wrote:Play.com have updated their Pocahontas page, stating that the DVD will be released in UK March 7th 2005.

It has now been changed again to April 18th 2005!

A bit disappointing after seeing the French cover

BonusMage wrote:

A bit disappointing after seeing the French cover

The French cover you saw was only for the sleevecover.
The snap case inside features the same cover art as the Australian edition (and almsot like the old single disc French edition).

BonusMage wrote:

A bit disappointing after seeing the French cover

I love that cover!

And I can quickly confirm for anyone thinking of getting the French sets, they do feature fully English supplements.

2099net wrote:And I can quickly confirm for anyone thinking of getting the French sets, they do feature fully English supplements.

That's right ! Just as all the French DVDs !

Jordan wrote:

2099net wrote:And I can quickly confirm for anyone thinking of getting the French sets, they do feature fully English supplements.

That's right ! Just as all the French DVDs !

Apart from the 2 disc Atlantis

Right, I've not had much time to go over the French sets (especially Lilo and Stitch) but I can report a few bullet points for the French Pocahontas set:

* Firstly, there isn't a whole lot new from the previous International Single Disc release - especially if you simply count up the supplements run-times. But I can whole hartedly recommend the new set (for the reasons see the other points)

* The new transfer does look stunning. There wasn't a big problem with the International releases of Pocahontas compared to the US release, but this new mastering simply blows both previous releases out of the water.

* It does include both versions of the film (but seems to default to the "special edition"). Those not that excited by the inclusion of "If I Never Knew You" can still play the original.

* The all-new commentary (shame the old commentary wasn't kept for the Theatrical Release) mentions that it is "Eight Years" since the Pocahontas release. Seems this set has been sitting on the shelves for 18 months or more.

* Roy Disney is interviewed in the Making of If I Never Knew You featurette (which sadly doesn't cover the completion of the new animation)

* The Gallaries are not virtual, but I am more than happy with the size of each, especially the concept art gallery with is massive (and beautiful to look at too)

* The trailers are on this release!

* Runtime wise, the second disc seems a little short, but unlike the Alice In Wonderland DVD, I'm not as disappointed as there doesn't seem to be anything missing from the LD (that I know of, I'm sure I will be told differently). I wouldn't be surprised if the US release has a few extra segments. Perhaps some information on the real Pocahontas and John Smith, or a Disneypedia segment on Native Americans?

You guys are going to love this set when it comes out in the UK and/or US!

Quick note about Lilo and Stich. Sadly it looks like there are no galleries whatsoever, although there are segments of people talking about their art with examples shown.

2099net wrote:* Runtime wise, the second disc seems a little short, but unlike the Alice In Wonderland DVD, I'm not as disappointed as there doesn't seem to be anything missing from the LD (that I know of, I'm sure I will be told differently). I wouldn't be surprised if the US release has a few extra segments. Perhaps some information on the real Pocahontas and John Smith, or a Disneypedia segment on Native Americans?

Well, here's the complete list of features from the laserdisc. From the BBC classified specs I remember you posting, there doesn't seem to be much missing, but you can be the judge of that:

* The Making of Pocahontas
* The Music of Pocahontas
* The Historical Pocahontas
* History of the Production of Pocahontas
* Frankfort Book Fair Presentation Reel
* The Premiere in Central Park
* The Pocahontas Animation Discovery Adventure Tour
* "Colors of the Wind" Multi-Lanuage Presentation

Storyboard Sequences
* Storyboard Sequence 5.7 - Ship Landing
* Storyboard Sequence 11 - Pocahontas and John Smith Meet
* Storyboard Sequence 14 - "Colors of the Wind"
* Storyboard Sequence 28 - "Savages (Part 2)"
* Storyboard Sequence 29 - The Execution
* Storyboard Sequence 30 - Farewell
* Storyboard to Film Comparison Sequence 11 - Pocahontas and John Smith Meet

Abandoned Concepts
* Sequence 2 - Below Deck After Thomas' Rescue
* Sequence 2.5 - "Dancing to the Wedding Drum" (with Stephen Schwartz Commentary)
* Sequence 4.5 - Transition to "Just Around the Riverbend"
* Early Concept Sequence 14 - "Colors of the Wind" (with Stephen Schwartz Commentary)
* Sequence 15 - Pocahontas Dresses As An Englishwoman
* Sequence 4.5 - Wiggins Gets Mud Thrown At Him
* Sequence 21 - "In the Middle of the River" (with Commentary by James Pentecost, Stephen Schwartz, Carl Binder, and Eric Goldberg)
* Sequence 26 - John Smith Escapes (with Commentary by Carl Binder and Eric Goldberg)
* Sequence 25 - "Just Around the Riverbend" Reprise

Character Design
* Introduction
* Pocahontas
* John Smith
* Ratcliffe
* Powhatan
* Grandmother Willow
* Meeko
* Flit
* Percy
* Thomas
* Kokuum
* Nakoma
* Miscellanous Deleted Character

* Art Design, Layouts, and Backgrounds
* Prop Design
* Computer Generated Imagery
* Animation
* Miscellaneous Deleted Animation (with Commentary by Eric Goldberg, Stephen Schwartz, Mike Gabriel, and Michael Giaimo)
* Deleted Sequence - "If I Never Knew You" (with Commentary by Eric Goldberg and Stephen Schwartz)
* Publicity, Promotions, and Advertising
* Teaser Trailer - "Colors of the Wind"
* Theatrical Trailer

Here's what seems to be missing (from memory)

* The Historical Pocahontas
* History of the Production of Pocahontas (?)
* The Pocahontas Animation Discovery Adventure Tour

Storyboard Sequences
* Storyboard Sequence 5.7 - Ship Landing
* Storyboard Sequence 11 - Pocahontas and John Smith Meet
* Storyboard Sequence 14 - "Colors of the Wind"
* Storyboard Sequence 28 - "Savages (Part 2)"
* Storyboard Sequence 29 - The Execution
* Storyboard Sequence 30 - Farewell

I think all the storyboards are missing, apart from the storyboard to final footage comparison

* Prop Design
* Computer Generated Imagery
* Animation (? Not sure what this actually is. The most of the character designs have animation sequences so this could be on the DVD)

I do have a feeling, the US set will include some of the historical context, either from the LD or all new (I predict an all-new Disneypedia)

Most of the excluded extras are either text or picture-based still-frames. A shame they weren't included, because you actually learned a lot from them, specially regarding the real Pocahontas and John Smith.

Thanks a lot for your remarks of the disc, Netty. It seems this disc is not going to disappoint at all and it will make up for all the waiting.

I have just finished watching the Lilo and Stitch special edition, and I am quite frankly knackered! What a disc. With the extras on disc 2 coming to a running time of well over 3 hours it was fantastic! I thought Atlantis and Aladdin was the zenith of fantastic Disney dvds, but wow! This blows them both out of the water! You're in for a treat when you get it!

I wasnt going to get the Special edition Lilo and Stitch as extras dont really bother me that much. But im such a huge fan every time id see it id want too buy it so i may end up doing so.......all depends on if the cover art is good as well And what after you've said about it, it sounds great!

Im unsure about the Pochahontas cover, she doesnt look right. And it just reminds me of the Aladdin cover but with Pochahontas replacing Genie...lol! I wont be buying anyway...

ichabod wrote:I have just finished watching the Lilo and Stitch special edition, and I am quite frankly knackered! What a disc. With the extras on disc 2 coming to a running time of well over 3 hours it was fantastic! I thought Atlantis and Aladdin was the zenith of fantastic Disney dvds, but wow! This blows them both out of the water! You're in for a treat when you get it!

aaaah stop driving me crazy!! I'm SO anticipating that dvd. Am I correct in assuming this dvd is similair to the late (R.I.P.) collector's editions for Tarzan, ENG and Atlantis released alongside the single discs for the true dvd collector? It sounds like this set has been sitting on a shelve for two years now.

Lilo and Stitch is more like the Atlantis CE, in that extensive film has been taken as the film was being made.

However, while the Atlantis CE seems to have more input from peripheral filmmakers, Lilo and Stitch's is mainly focused on Chris Sanders and Dean DeBois. I also found the film to be a lot more "amaturish" than the Atlantis film. It's often taken by simple camcorders, just by other people in the various meetings etc. I don't think anybody was specifically assigned to document the making of the film. So it does have a rather haphazard look and feel, and in my opinion, doesn't flow together as well as the Atlantis documentary (which is still the apex of Disney special editions in my estimation).

That said, there is a lot of good stuff in the documentary, and it is after all the information that we are interested in, not the presentation. I'm very disappointed that there aren't any still gallaries apart from the "Pitch Book" created to initially sell the story/film.

There are however wonderful conversations with animators (sort of presented as footnotes/sidesteps from the main documentary) as well as an interesting piece on watercolour painting and a conversation with Maurice Noble (best known for his stylised Looney Tunes backgrounds). I know you will love this DVD PatrickvD.

2099net wrote:I also found the film to be a lot more "amaturish" than the Atlantis film. It's often taken by simple camcorders, just by other people in the various meetings etc. I don't think anybody was specifically assigned to document the making of the film.

I quite liked that because it seemed more "real". When somebody is being interviewed it all seems a bit retrospective adn kind of "here's what we did" whereas this way you actually got to see the filmmakers decisions as the film film was being made. You got to see their reactions as they were happening, and you got to see the actual footage of visting Maurice Noble's house, the actual conversation, not just hearing about it about it from someone sat in a chair, 2 years later. That is why I found this documentary so fresh and fantastic.

Although I do agree there could have been some galleries. Even thoughj I love seeing the concept art, I do get quite bored looking at frame after frame and espescially on such a small TV, so that I why I can live without it. Also there are plenty pics of concept art shown during the documentary. And also I have the Lilo and stitch 'art of' book.

2099net wrote:Lilo and Stitch is more like the Atlantis CE, in that extensive film has been taken as the film was being made.

However, while the Atlantis CE seems to have more input from peripheral filmmakers, Lilo and Stitch's is mainly focused on Chris Sanders and Dean DeBois. I also found the film to be a lot more "amaturish" than the Atlantis film. It's often taken by simple camcorders, just by other people in the various meetings etc. I don't think anybody was specifically assigned to document the making of the film. So it does have a rather haphazard look and feel, and in my opinion, doesn't flow together as well as the Atlantis documentary (which is still the apex of Disney special editions in my estimation).

That said, there is a lot of good stuff in the documentary, and it is after all the information that we are interested in, not the presentation. I'm very disappointed that there aren't any still gallaries apart from the "Pitch Book" created to initially sell the story/film.

There are however wonderful conversations with animators (sort of presented as footnotes/sidesteps from the main documentary) as well as an interesting piece on watercolour painting and a conversation with Maurice Noble (best known for his stylised Looney Tunes backgrounds). I know you will love this DVD PatrickvD.

I'm sure I will This definitely sounds like an interesting release. And I completely agree on Atlantis, those special features were amazing. I remember being really dissapointed when they announced that no collector's edition was being released for Lilo & Stitch. It's good to know it's coming!

Just as a side-note Ichabod, do you think you'll be tempted to import French DVDs again in the future?

2099net wrote:Just as a side-note Ichabod, do you think you'll be tempted to import French DVDs again in the future?

It was actually the Australian one in the end!

Yeah, I might it just depends on the DVD. Like I've imported some US DVDs like the Treasures and the Vault Disney's only because they are not available here. I will probably get the Fr Brother Bear and Alice in Wonderland I have been waiting for them eagerly! I could've got the US ones but I want PAL because I just find it to be far superior in terms of picture quality. For some reason I really notice the difference.

So hey if the DVD is right who knows!?

Maybe this shouldnt be in this topic, but since your talking about other region dvds........

I dont like the Brother Bear cover and i just wondered where i can buy this dvd from another countrys region that has a different cover? For a good price.....and also are there any that actually say "Brother Bear" and not something else....hope you can help!