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Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:08 pm**

As JK Rowling has previously stated the Half-Blood Prince WILL NOT be HARRY POTTER OR VOLDEMORT

but I cant think of who it might be......

Also, I dont think that the books are that long. They are pretty long (don't get me wrong) but I think that any Die Hard Harry Potter fan would be willing to read the book even it if was the length of the Bible.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:10 pm**

SofaKing381222 wrote: ...but I think that any Die Hard Harry Potter fan would be willing to read the book even it if was the length of the Bible.

Amen.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:07 pm**

Just for those of you who haven't read Rowling's official post:

Section: News
Tuesday 29 June 2004

Title of Book Six: The Truth

Well, the door opened at last and I showed you the title of book six - the genuine title, the title that will appear on the published book, the title I have been using in my head for ages and ages. Unfortunately, however, the door opened on the very same day the 'Pillar of Storgé' hoaxer struck, which left a lot of Harry Potter fans bemused as to whether I was having a joke at their expense by posting another fake title to 'teach hoaxers a lesson', something I certainly wouldn't do, as it would simply frustrate, confuse or annoy the 99.9% of you who aren't hoaxers! I tried to give a clear hint that the title behind the door was the real one by making the 'Toenail' joke as well (see 'Rumours'). But just to clear up matters once and for all…

Information you take directly from this site will be truthful and accurate (I might occasionally joke, but as time goes on, you'll learn to tell when I'm joking). Do not trust anybody else claiming to have found information on this site that you cannot access, however seemingly convincing the images they provide to support their story.

I never post information on the site that I do not want fans to read immediately. In other words, anybody claiming to have 'discovered' a message that wasn't due for release yet is lying. There was never anything meaningful behind the door until the 'Do Not Disturb' sign came off!

The 'Pillar of Storgé' was never my title, and I did not change it at the eleventh hour because I was 'found out' (I nearly fell off my chair giggling when I read this).

I was delighted to see that a hard core of super-bright fans knew that the real title was once, in the long distant past, a possibility for 'Chamber of Secrets', and from that deduced that it was genuine. Certain crucial pieces of information in book six were originally planned for 'Chamber of Secrets', but very early on (first draft of Chamber) I realised that this information's proper home was book six. I have said before now that 'Chamber' holds some very important clues to the ultimate end of the series. Not as many as six, obviously, but there is a link.

Anyway: if you continue to exercise patience, you will find that the Do Not Disturb Door opens again… and again… giving you further hints about book six. But as a little bonus, and compensation for having been messed around by Mr. or Ms. Storgé, I shall tell you one thing without making you shift any bricks at all: the HBP is neither Harry nor Voldemort. And that's all I'm saying on THAT subject until the book's published.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:19 pm**

Thanks for the quote, yoda_four! Where did you get this information and what is the site she is talking about?

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:14 pm**

Kram Nebuer wrote:Thanks for the quote, yoda_four! Where did you get this information and what is the site she is talking about?

From her very own official site: http://www.jkrowling.com Check it out, it's a nice site with lots of info; about her and the books.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:05 pm**

Matty-Mouse wrote:Not sure I agree with you Netty, Lucius is more of a lap dog like Wormtail to me. Plus J.K. has said that Harry and Darco will NEVER join forces.

I think the "Half Blood Prince" much have been mentioned in "Chamber" somewhere personally. My money would be Syltherine himself or Dumbledore.

Well, I wouldn't call Lucius a lap dog. My Potter knowledge is a little shaky, but I have read the books.

I don't know if it is stated one way or the other, but I get the impression the whole Tom Riddle Diary in Ginny's bag affair was Lucius' own idea. I also get the idea it was more to get revenge on the Weasleys than to further Voldemort's own aims. In other words it was his idea for his own reasons. (I know Dobby makes a big thing of Harrys being in danger, but it's possible that Lucius would want Harry removed just as much as Voldemort, plus Harry does tend to be the centre of attention due to his personal history. The book was an ideal way to kill two birds with one stone - teach the Weasleys a lesson and potentially get rid of Potter, which would put him in Voldemort's good books) It's been a long time since I read the books, so perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what I remember. It's certainly no coincidence Ginny was choosen, put it that way.

Which would mean 3 things. [1] He can think and scheme for himself, and has his own motivations. [2] He obviously knows a lot about Voldemort - more than most most other people (so perhaps knows a potential weakness?) and [3] He most likely knows Voldemort is from a mixed parentage, and we all know how Lucius feels about MudBloods. I can't see him wanting to take orders from one.

To me everything points to Lucius having plans and schemes of his own. What these are remains to be seen.

I still see Draco eventually standing up to his father. Perhaps without Harry and his friends help, and perhaps it will be futile, but again, signs point to this eventually happening.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:48 pm**

Just a theroy, but my guess is that the Half Blood Prince is a character that we've heard refrenced before but not attached much significance to. Example: Sirius was mentioned briefly in the opening chapter of Sorcerer's Stone, but we all naturally didn't think too much of it then as we didn't know who he was or that he was important to the story. TO quote just a small portion from the scene in which Dumbledore, McGonagall and Hagrid leave Harry on the Dursleys' doorstep. Emphasis mine, and I hope I'm allowed to do this copyright wise. No harm intended!

"Hagrid," said Dumbledore, sounding relieved. "At last. And where did you get that motorcycle?"

"Borrowed it, Professor Dumbledore, sir," said the giant, climbing carefully off the motorcycle as he spoke. <b>"Young Sirius Black lent it to me.</b> I've got him, sir."

Oh, and yeah, I don't think the books are too long at all. I like the descriptions and don't get bored with it. They still do keep a good pace, as well.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:42 pm**

the JK Rowling site is something REALLY interesting. It has loads of hints for Book 6 & 7 but it is hard to figure them out.

There is one thing I have figured out however. On the mainpage you can see a butterfly flying around. Throughout the day it is blue... at night it turns green. Now in Japanese Cho-Cho means butterfly. I think this means Cho will turn evil and possibly even switch houses. She is most likely to betray Harry.

I think the prince is either Neville or Draco. Don't know why but that is just a feeling I have. And 2099net, I wouldnt be suprised if your theory about Draco turning good is true. I think'it's a very good theory.

Anyway, check out that site... it's very interesting

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:59 pm**

I myself love the novels and have read all five (the first four twice), but not in a while. I have however, watched the films recently. (Although they don't stand a chance against the books as far as excitement and imagination, I agree that that is not a movie's job.) Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "mudblood" refer to a witch or wizard born of two, non-magic Muggles?

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:30 pm**

Well, I'm not completely sure what you mean by non-magic Muggles as all Muggles are non-magical (unless you mean Muggles who have no magical parents). Mudblood refers to anyone whose parents are Muggles, even if they may have magical grandparents or something. Basically, everything about the wizarding world is summed up like this:

Muggle: Non-Magical Person (Dursleys)
Squib: Non-Magical Person with magical parents (Filch)
Mudblood: Person with Muggle parents (Hermione)
Half Blood: Person with one Muggle parent and one magical parent (Voldemort)
Pureblood: Person with magical parents (Harry)

The reason I don't think grandparents matter is because Voldemort has never called Harry a Mudblood, but I believe he called Harry's mother Lily one, signifying that Harry's grandparents were muggles, yet it doesn't seem to affect his status since Lily and James were wizards.

Yeah, I know, I ramble on too much when it comes to Harry Potter.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:46 pm**

Well I'll keep a look out on J.K.'s official site to see when the 6th Harry Potter book comes out. I also have a friend that works at Barnes & Noble (whoo-hoo!) and she sometimes tells me release dates of new John Grisham books. Then I'll pass the HP info on to youse guys. My friend is guessing maybe sometime summer 2005 for the sixth book to come out. Depends if J.K. misses any of her deadlines.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:30 pm**

Disneykid wrote:Muggle: Non-Magical Person (Dursleys)
Mudblood: Person with Muggle parents (Hermione)
Half Blood: Person with one Muggle parent and one magical parent (Voldemort)
Pureblood: Person with magical parents (Harry)

I think you missed one:
Squib - non-magical person with magical parents (Filch)

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:37 am**

Oh, yes, duh. I meant to put that in, but then I got side tracked. Thanks.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:24 pm**

Somebody told me that Dumbledore means BEE in some other language. And in the 5th Book it very briefly mentions that there was a buzzing around Harry a couple times. Itd be cool if Dumbledore was an Animagus. That would also explain how he knows so much by "spying" on the students! Rowling also said long ago that there is going to be a new Minister of Magic in this book. Thatd be cool. Maybe Arthur Weasley!!!! (my guess not official)

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:28 pm**

When Rowling talks about a Half muggle half mgic person she spells Half Blood a "Half-Blood" with a hypen so maybe this title means something else???...

Possible Spoiler!!!!

Hagrid is a half-blood Giant maybe it refers to him being a prince of some sort!

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:02 pm**

Disneykid wrote:Pureblood: Person with magical parents (Harry)

Harry is a HALF BLOOD, for evidence of this loom at Chamber and Order (both books mention this fact). I thik you've got to come from a long line of pure bloods to be one yourself.

Meaning if Ron and Hermione got together and had kids they would be half bloods.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:29 pm**

Really? I honestly don't recall an issue of Harry being anything less than pure coming up (otherwise, why would Malfoy try to become friends with him in book 1?). I just recently re-read book 5 and there was definitely no mention of it there. Perhaps I need to re-read book 2.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:28 pm**

Disneykid wrote:Really? I honestly don't recall an issue of Harry being anything less than pure coming up (otherwise, why would Malfoy try to become friends with him in book 1?). I just recently re-read book 5 and there was definitely no mention of it there. Perhaps I need to re-read book 2.

Yep, Harry is half-blood, because Lily was mudblood and James was pureblood (as far as I know). Put the 2 together and what have you got; a half-blood. 1 of the only purebloods we know are the Malfoys.

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:28 pm**

I really dont think it matters if Lily is Half-Blood. She is still magic and so is James

lily is half and james is full so harry is 75% magic hes not half blood hes "3 quarters blood"

But even if that is not how it workd Rowling has already said that the Half Blood Prince WILL NOT be Harry!

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:22 pm**

SofaKing381222 wrote:I really dont think it matters if Lily is Half-Blood. She is still magic and so is James

lily is half and james is full so harry is 75% magic hes not half blood hes "3 quarters blood"

But even if that is not how it workd Rowling has already said that the Half Blood Prince WILL NOT be Harry!

Lily wasn't a half-blood; she was a mudblood. She was just like Hermione - a witch borne from completely muggle family.

It does get confusing, though - what exactly is the definition of a "half-blood"? Rowling has never made it clear. At first one would think a half-blood would mean a person with one magical parent and one muggle parent. Simple enough. But then it's implied in Chamber of Secrets that a half-blood can be a person with a magical parent and a mudblood parent, as well - since Tom Riddle summed he and Harry up as "both half-bloods...".
It might be following the same critieria as extreme racism did (and still does) in the U.S. As in, a white person and a bi-racial person have a kid, and white elitist freaks will still shun that kid for being a quarter black, or whatever. Not the most transparent theory, but hey - I tried! LOL

By the way, the Harry Potter Lexicon has a whole page defining blood status here - http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/bloo ... names.html. Great site - should be able to clear things up if you're confused on a "wizarding world fact." Hehe... even Rowling herself said this month on her site that she uses the Lexicon sometimes, when she's forgotten a detail or two.

Also, just to add some fun to the fray, here's a list of magical slang terms -

mudblood - a muggle-born witch or wizard; a very nasty epithet to use, hence Draco saying it to Hermione whenever he gets the chance.

half-breed - an offensive term used by witches/wizards to describe people (magical or muggle) with abnormal afflictions - like werewolves (Lupin) or vampires (Snape? j/k!).
blood-traitor - a pureblood witch/wizard who is friendly to muggles and muggle-born wizards - the Weasley family is the perfect example.
mutant and/or freak - an insulting term used for unusual people in the magical world, like squibs (Mrs. Figg) or metamorphmagi (Tonks).

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