robster16 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:10 pm
I hate to keep repeating myself but… yet another “a girl senses a darkness in her kingdom and goes on a quest to try and save her people” storyline. How many times can they keep making the same movie over and over again?
This formula has been used so much at Disney that other studios are starting to copy it. Skydance's Spellbound is using it too. Here, the fact Asha is seeing things others don't makes it more similar to Encanto than anything else.
DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:24 pmThe whole premise seems totally Pixar-esque, even down to another adjective title. But the tile and the logo is awfully generic and vague.
I don't like the title either. Like you said, it's very Pixar-esque. Plus the name is already taken by a Disney cruise ship. They should have just called it the name of the protagonist. Interestingly, Pixar has started doing just that with Luca and Elio. I agree about the logo too. It's very plain and the placement of the star at the top of the 'S' makes it look like a fuse. It should have been used as a tittle and placed above the 'I'.
Farerb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:28 pmThe premise of the movie is a little bit weird considering that only two movies in the whole canon have characters wishing upon a star, and I don't think it's really interesting to learn the mechanics of it, kind of ruins the fantasy.
Yeah, the origin of the wishing star is not something that needed explaining. The fact it's about the wishing star in Disney movies specifically and not about how people came to wish on stars in general makes it worse. Are they trying to make a cinematic universe out of Disney films? Theories that connect movies unrelated to one another are nothing more than fanfiction and WDAS shouldn't be giving credence to them. What's next? Are we going to get the origin of the wishing well too? It reminds me of what they did in Ralph Breaks the Internet where they took a common visual element like characters looking into water during their songs and made into a "thing" when there was never actually such intent. The wishing star hasn't even been used that much in Disney canon. As you've said, only a couple of movies show a character wishing on a star. The fact Chris Buck
said there will be lots of Easter eggs from past Disney movies in the film worries me even more. This seems like pure fancervice, something the studio should not be engaging in.
I didn't like the song at all. It's so dull and unmemorable, it's like it was created by AI. Like someone put in "generic Broadway ballad #734" and this is what came out. It's even more forgettable than "Waiting for a Miracle".
Farerb wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:42 pmIt's interesting that after 10 years they are finally bringing someone new to do the songs, though looking at her biography, it doesn't seem that she has experience with musicals.
Do you know who would have been perfect to do the songs for the 100 Years movie??
I had no delusions that Menken was ever going to get another WDAS musical, but I'm surprised they aren't using the Lopezes or LMM. Getting someone new and someone so inexperienced with musical theater at that, tells me they really wanted a Latina to be the songwriter for this project.
Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:55 pm
What a gorgeous design! Like a mix of Pocahontas and Isabela from
Encanto.
I love how she looks too. Finally, some good character designs from Disney again. We haven't had those since Raya. That comparison is apt, but I think she looks much better than Isabela. The publicity still is really pretty too and reminds me of the first still they released for The Princess and the Frog.
Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:55 pmI haven't been able to listen to the song yet, but DeBose?? Good choice.
I agree about DeBose. I'm glad they got someone with a really good, trained voice and who is experienced with musical theater. The voice actresses for Moana and Mirabel were not as refined.
Mooky wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:29 am
For the love of God and all that is holy, stop with these generic one word titles. I guess Stardust was already taken?
I get the feeling they wanted to call this The Star but it was already taken by another animated movie.
Mooky wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:29 am
The animation looks a bit jerky and lagging from that little snippet (maybe it's still WIP), but I welcome the return of 2D-look in any form.
I noticed that too about the animation and I don't believe the footage shown was unfinished. I think it looks that way because of the non-photorealistic rendering. There's nothing 2D about it, by the way. An artist who's working on it
confirmed this is stylized CG and that they are using Hyperion, which is their usual rendering software, not Maender. I'm certain the final product will have no drawing involved whatsoever.
unprincess wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:23 pm
well Im happy we're getting another folklore fantasy themed film but the story sounds really generic, like a cross between Encanto and Raya(I bet the star character will be another Genie/Maui/Sisu magical sidekick). Also I like her design but Im really curious when/where this takes place and I really hope its not yet another mishmash fantasy setting but I have a feeling it will be. From the architecture(and Im no expert) the setting seems like the ancient world, like in the middle east or Mediterranean? The goat's name says med, her dress and hairstyle and long dress Ive seen similar stuff in a lot of ancient art from the med/middle east.
Well, it's been confirmed the film is set in the fictional Kingdom of Rosas, so I think it's going to be another cultural hodgepodge of some sort. The strange thing about the kingdom is it's being translated as the Kingdom of Wishes in the press, but rosas means roses, not wishes in Spanish.
I assumed because the protagonist is voiced by DeBose who is Afro-Latina, the character will also be Afro-Latina. However, the name Asha is not Spanish or African in origin. It's Sanskrit. And while the name exists in various countries in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, it only means "wish" in Sanskrit. In Swahili, it means "life". In Arabic, it means "alive and well". Is Asha supposed to be South Asian/Indian or Afro-Latina? The name of her pet goat Valentino is definitely Spanish which makes things even more confusing.
D82 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:08 pm
Maybe it's the video quality, but the style of animation doesn't look good to me there.
It doesn't look good to me either. It looks more like Puss in Boots 2 than Spider-Verse. I wonder why they keep saying it has a watercolor aesthetic when it looks nothing like watercolor.
Nothing about the title makes me intrigued about the plot. Even something like The Quest (also generic) would give it more of an adventurous/mythical feel. The animation looks a bit jerky and lagging from that little snippet (maybe it's still WIP), but I welcome the return of 2D-look in any form.
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