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Disney's Divinity wrote:Oh, wow, I didn't know that. I mean, I still like it personally, but I thought Elton was going to be writing the song for Beyonce that was in-film? And then TLK: The Gift would be her own thing?

I'm sure he thought the same. No wonder he was upset with his diminished role in the remake and blasted Disney in that interview. They only allowed him to write one song and that was just for the end credits. He had no say in how the renditions of his songs would be arranged and performed either.

Well. I guess it goes without saying that Disney's disrespectful treatment of their past songwriters continues to be very disappointing. I won't lie, I wasn't crazy about "Never Too Late," but I definitely think he could've written a great ballad for Nala similar to Menken's new songs for the Beast and Jasmine.

These are the Critics' Choice nominees for Best Song:

Glasgow (No Place Like Home) – Wild Rose
(I’m Gonna) Love Me Again – Rocketman
I’m Standing With You – Breakthrough
Into the Unknown – Frozen II
Speechless – Aladdin
Spirit – The Lion King
Stand Up – Harriet

Sotiris wrote:The nominations for the Feature Film and Animated Film categories at the Hollywood Music in Media Awards 2019 are out. Update: "Stand Up" from Harriet won Original Song in a Feature Film and "Beautiful Life" from Abominable won Original Song in an Animated Film.

I'm surprised "Into the Unknown" didn't win in the Animated Film category. And it's a shame "Speechless" didn't win in the Feature Film one, but I quite like "Stand Up" too. I find its lyrics a bit too literal, but it's not a bad song.

The Golden Globe nominations are out. "Speechless" was snubbed.

Best Original Song

"Beautiful Ghosts" from Cats
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" from Rocketman
"Into the Unknown" from Frozen II
"Spirit" from The Lion King
"Stand Up" from Harriet

Sotiris wrote:The Golden Globe nominations are out. "Speechless" was snubbed.

Best Original Song

"Beautiful Ghosts" from Cats
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" from Rocketman
"Into the Unknown" from Frozen
"Spirit" from The Lion King
"Stand Up" from Harriet

I can see the Oscars matching this line-up, with the song from Harriet potentially being the most vulnerable. In recent years, the Academy's music branch has tended to throw in a song from a documentary.

Disney Boasts a Bevy of Hopefuls for Oscar’s Original Song Race
https://variety.com/2019/film/awards/di ... 203428148/

The Wrap has posted the complete list of eligible songs submitted for the Oscars this year. Some titles that have been deemed ineligible for the Best Song and Best Score categories have also been revealed.

The Academy shortlists for these and other categories will be published tomorrow. I think this is not a very competitive year in the song category, so I expect several songs from Disney to make the cut. But we'll see.

These are the Oscars shortlists for the song and score categories (Disney titles in bold):

MUSIC (ORIGINAL SONG)

“Speechless” from “Aladdin”
“Letter To My Godfather” from “The Black Godfather”
“I’m Standing With You” from “Breakthrough”
“Da Bronx” from “The Bronx USA”
“Into The Unknown” from “Frozen II”
“Stand Up” from “Harriet”
“Catchy Song” from “The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part”
“Never Too Late” from “The Lion King”
“Spirit” from “The Lion King”
“Daily Battles” from “Motherless Brooklyn”
“A Glass of Soju” from “Parasite”
“(I’m Gonna) Love Me Again” from “Rocketman”
“High Above The Water” from “Toni Morrison: The Pieces I Am”
“I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away” from “Toy Story 4”
“Glasgow” from “Wild Rose”

MUSIC (ORIGINAL SCORE)

“Avengers: Endgame”
“Bombshell”
“The Farewell”
“Ford v Ferrari”
“Frozen II”
“Jojo Rabbit”
“Joker”
“The King”
“Little Women”
“Marriage Story”
“Motherless Brooklyn”
“1917”
“Pain and Glory”
“Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”
“Us”

D82 wrote:The Wrap has posted the complete list of eligible songs submitted for the Oscars this year. Some titles that have been deemed ineligible for the Best Song and Best Score categories have also been revealed.

Thanks for the information. It's really odd Disney submitted the song from Alita: Battle Angle but didn't bother submitting the one from Maleficent: Mistress of Evil. Just doesn't seem fair.

D82 wrote:These are the Oscars shortlists for the song and score categories (Disney titles in bold)

I'm surprised "Beautiful Ghosts" from Cats didn't make the cut. The rest of the entries were expected. I'm glad Elton John's "Never Too Late" from The Lion King made it through. How on earth did Frozen 2 make the shortlist in the score category? Musicals clearly violate the Academy's rules, and especially Frozen 2 which had more songs than the typical Disney musical. The violation is so blatant. They did the same thing with La La Land. Do they ever follow this rule or is it only enforced when it's an Alan Menken musical?

I’m surprised “Catchy Song” was submitted over “Everything’s Not Awesome” from TLM2.

Only three songs from The Lego Movie 2 were submitted ("Catchy Song", "Not Evil", and "Super Cool") and only one ("Catchy Song") made the shortlist.

I only assumed they must not have submitted it because who would choose "Catchy Song" over "Everything's Not Awesome" unless there was no choice? I suppose I'm expecting Disney's shenanigans from everyone. My personal favorite is "Not Evil," but I wouldn't have expected it to be submitted or nominated.

I think "Everything's Not Awesome" wasn't submitted because it's not really an original song but a variant of "Everything Is Awesome" from the first movie, which was already nominated. If they had submitted it, it would probably have been disqualified.

Sotiris wrote:It's really odd Disney submitted the song from Alita: Battle Angle but didn't bother submitting the one from Maleficent: Mistress of Evil. Just doesn't seem fair.

Yeah, I agree.

Sotiris wrote:I'm surprised "Beautiful Ghosts" from Cats didn't make the cut.

Yes, that was the biggest snub. I didn't think it would end up being nominated, but I expected at least it would make the shortlist. Personally, I didn't like the song much. I only liked parts of it. I don't know much about music, but to me the structure seemed a bit strange.

Sotiris wrote:How on earth did Frozen 2 make the shortlist in the score category? Musicals clearly violate the Academy's rules, and especially Frozen 2 which had more songs than the typical Disney musical. The violation is so blatant. They did the same thing with La La Land. Do they ever follow this rule or is it only enforced when it's an Alan Menken musical?

I don't like that either. Applying the rules when they don't want a film to be nominated and making exceptions when they do is not fair. The rules should be the same for all movies.

My ranking of the Golden Globe-nominated songs.

01. Into the Unknown (Frozen II)
02. Beautiful Ghosts (Cats)
03. (I'm Gonna) Love Me Again (Rocketman)
04. Spirit (The Lion King)
05. Stand Up (Harriet)


My ranking of the Oscar-submitted songs from Disney films.

01. Speechless (Aladdin)
02. Into the Unknown (Frozen II)
03. I'm Standing With You (Breakthrough)
04. Never Too Late (The Lion King)
05. A Song From a Woman (The Cave)
06. Swan Song (Alita: Battle Angel)
07. Spirit (The Lion King)
08. Freak of Nature (Spies in Disguise)
09. Then There Were Two (Spies in Disguise)
10. I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away (Toy Story 4)


My ranking of the Oscar-shortlisted songs.

01. Speechless (Aladdin)
02. Into The Unknown (Frozen II)
03. I’m Standing With You (Breakthrough)
04. Never Too Late from (The Lion King)
05. (I’m Gonna) Love Me Again (Rocketman)
06. Glasgow (No Place Like Home) (Wild Rose)
07. Spirit (The Lion King)
08. Stand Up (Harriet)
09. Catchy Song (The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part)
10. Da Bronx (The Bronx, USA)
11. I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away (Toy Story 4)
12. High Above the Water (Toni Morrison: The Pieces I Am)
13. Letter to My Godfather (The Black Godfather)
14. A Glass of Soju (Parasite)
15. Daily Battles (Motherless Brooklyn)

"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" from Rocketman has won the Golden Globe for Best Original Song. This is Elton John's (music) fifth Golden Globe nomination and second win and Bernie Taupin's (lyrics) fourth Golden Globe nomination and second win.


Source: https://twitter.com/goldenglobes/status ... 4900601857

To be honest, although I liked several of Frozen 2's songs, I'm glad none of them won. Congrats to Rocketman!

That's one of the only categories I had predicted correctly. There were a lot of surprises last night at the Golden Globes! I think "(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" can win at the Oscars too.

Outside of the feeling of schadenfreude for Disney, no, I don’t really think the Elton John song deserved to win. *shrug* I like Elton John in general though. I think this was more about rewarding him for his entire career as an artist and had little to do with the individual songs.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Outside of the feeling of schadenfreude for Disney, no, I don’t really think the Elton John song deserved to win. *shrug* I like Elton John in general though. I think this was more about rewarding him for his entire career as an artist and had little to do with the individual songs.

I don't think it's the best song of the year either. The HFPA tends to award the most famous musical artist rather than the best song, that's why I wasn't surprised by Elton John's victory. And this year there isn't a song that stands out above the rest like "Shallow" last year, so I think this win could increase his chances at the Oscars. Though the song category is usually quite unpredictable, so we'll see.

D82 wrote:

Disney's Divinity wrote:Outside of the feeling of schadenfreude for Disney, no, I don’t really think the Elton John song deserved to win. *shrug* I like Elton John in general though. I think this was more about rewarding him for his entire career as an artist and had little to do with the individual songs.

I don't think it's the best song of the year either. The HFPA tends to award the most famous musical artist rather than the best song, that's why I wasn't surprised by Elton John's victory. And this year there isn't a song that stands out above the rest like "Shallow" last year, so I think this win could increase his chances at the Oscars. Though the song category is usually quite unpredictable, so we'll see.

I agree with you that there's no real frontrunner for Best Song this year. Nothing like Let It Go, Shallow, or anything from La La Land. I wouldn't mind if Into the Unknown won, and I'd be elated if Speechless was nominated and won, but I'm honestly rooting for Elton John just because of how Disney treated him. Hopefully it'll teach them a lesson with how to treat Menken in future films like Mermaid, Hunchback, and Enchanted 2.