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Man congrats on completing the task man! You rule!!!!

Thanks for answering DC Fan, I haven't seen Oliver and Company in a long time to know how I would feel about it. But congratulations on finishing this great idea of yours!

JeanGreyForever wrote:I didn't have a problem with Oliver being blatantly 80s. What I did have an issue with was the abysmal animation. Truly the worst in any Disney film. Felt like I was watching some cheap studio making a knockoff film.

OK, in Oliver's defence, while the animation of background characters in certain shots is definitely subpar I do not recall anything particularly wrong with the character animation. I actually think the animation is quite a bit stronger than in Great Mouse Detective.

The film certainly looks gritty, though. I think the character outlines are all black, unlike the film's immediate predecessors which used coloured Xerox outlines. It gives the film a dirty, urban look and feel which I am pretty sure is intentional.

Is it the look and art direction of the film that bothers you Jean? Or do you dislike the way the characters move and the quality of the drawings?

Neat! I've always wanted to do this, but I don't really have the patience, and prefer to just pick and choose whichever movies I feel like watching at any given time.

Although some of my friends have been trying to rank each of the animated films and Pixar, and have been going through the ones they don't vividly remember. It sounds like fun, but I'm not sure if I could do it.

Jules wrote:

JeanGreyForever wrote:I didn't have a problem with Oliver being blatantly 80s. What I did have an issue with was the abysmal animation. Truly the worst in any Disney film. Felt like I was watching some cheap studio making a knockoff film.

OK, in Oliver's defence, while the animation of background characters in certain shots is definitely subpar I do not recall anything particularly wrong with the character animation. I actually think the animation is quite a bit stronger than in Great Mouse Detective.

The film certainly looks gritty, though. I think the character outlines are all black, unlike the film's immediate predecessors which used coloured Xerox outlines. It gives the film a dirty, urban look and feel which I am pretty sure is intentional.

Is it the look and art direction of the film that bothers you Jean? Or do you dislike the way the characters move and the quality of the drawings?

You're right about the character animation. The principal characters are pretty well-done but the background characters are truly awful. I was in shock looking at some of these images especially during the opening song. If I saw these images without any context, I would never guess they belonged to a Disney animated film and even most of the the Disney cheapquels had better quality and that's saying something. The drawings look straight from Saturday morning cartoons.


I also agree that as much as I love The Great Mouse Detective, that film is particularly weak in animation too.