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The image of them all on the boat is so gorgeous. I love that Alice's sister is there I always thought she was one of the most beautiful female characters lol. She looks like a brunette Cinderella.

Jay wrote:The image of them all on the boat is so gorgeous. I love that Alice's sister is there I always thought she was one of the most beautiful female characters lol. She looks like a brunette Cinderella.

Gosh, I never noticed that before, but she does! I always thought she looked extremely lifelike, much like Alice does, but the Cinderella influence is there.

I find this picture VERY interesting... I love how all the characters are 100% on model, we rarely see this today... I also love how the line art is the same as in the original respective movies... Beautiful work, I think this guy has a bright future at Disney...

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A couple new images up...

What a great idea! The art work looks beautiful!

In the dance scene i can see Ariel in the background!

This must be fairly recent to have included Tiana and Rapunzel!

The problem with this whole thing is that it's just one big giant fangasm project.

This is exactly what Disney should not be making.

PatrickvD wrote:The problem with this whole thing is that it's just one big giant fangasm project.

This is exactly what Disney should not be making.

Yeah, I agree. Some people seem to be treating this like the real deal. This is literally no different than any other piece of fanart. Disney is not associated with this, nor will they ever be.

I love all this artwork! In the dance picture, is that Jessica Rabbit on the far right between Cindy and Pocahontas?

SWillie! wrote:

miklc wrote:I would also be very interested to see Rapunzel animated in hand drawn animation

It would be blasphemy in my book to let someone besides Glen Keane animate Rapunzel traditionally at this point.

You'd never let anyone else animated her? Do you also feel no one but Marc Davis could animate Maleficent or something? Because other people did.

PatrickvD wrote: This is exactly what Disney should not be making.

I don’t think anyone is delusional enough to expect Disney would ever get behind something like this.

But as for this being something they should not make--why? I can’t imagine this could be worse than the routine crap they’ve been shoveling out for the past 10+ years, and I would imagine it might even have more potential than most because at least they would have some small amount of respect for their old characters.

Again, another lovely peice of art from these guys. Really are a talented bunch!

DancingCrab wrote:

That's based on an actual famous painting called Large Odalisque by Jean-auguste- Dominique Ingres

Disney's Divinity wrote:

PatrickvD wrote: This is exactly what Disney should not be making.

I don’t think anyone is delusional enough to expect Disney would ever get behind something like this.

But as for this being something they should not make--why? I can’t imagine this could be worse than the routine crap they’ve been shoveling out for the past 10+ years, and I would imagine it might even have more potential than most because at least they would have some small amount of respect for their old characters.

I'm sorry but this fan-fiction type of stuff is not what I consider respect for their existing characters. At all. Let's agree to disagree right here.

Disney Duster wrote:

SWillie! wrote: It would be blasphemy in my book to let someone besides Glen Keane animate Rapunzel traditionally at this point.

You'd never let anyone else animated her? Do you also feel no one but Marc Davis could animate Maleficent or something? Because other people did.

No, I don't mean that. I just meant specifically with Rapunzel, given the history of the character and the film. The fact that he developed the story for so long in multiple versions, and the character herself is such a labor of love, and then he never got animate her the way he wanted to... I just think that if Rapunzel ever did have some sort of hand drawn cameo in something, it should be Glen. I'm sure there are others that could do it, but since Glen is gone now I'd love to see him come back for something like that.

PatrickvD wrote:The problem with this whole thing is that it's just one big giant fangasm project.

This is exactly what Disney should not be making.

EXACTLY what I was going to say.

This project does hold a lot of promise, and would be a beautiful piece if done correctly. But this looks to be nothing but a vanity project that the creators hope to sell at Disney, when it is likely that Disney will turn it away quickly.

The first is the idea of all these characters coming together. For some odd reason Disney has this strict rule about how their characters interact with each other (how House of Mouse was greenlit I'll never know), so making a whole short about the characters interacting with each other outside their respective universes would be killing it.

Second is the fanservice aspect of it all. Once again, this would be a nice piece for the fans to enjoy. But what value will it hold outside the rabid Disney fans that this was made for? What about everybody else? Nowadays Disney is all about pleasing all demographics, not just their die hard fans.

Let us not forget that Disney tried to do this sort of thing with that Pomp and Circumstance short with all the Disney characters. If DISNEY THEMSELVES saw it silly to make a short that's nothing but fan service, what chance does an artist best known for over sexualizing Disney characters has? Sorry if I am sounding oddly cynical, but the guy is WAY over his head (that and he has a really annoying vendetta against the CG movies except for Tangled, and even then he quickly dismissed it in favor of the Princess and the Frog)

pap64 wrote: but the guy is WAY over his head (that and he has a really annoying vendetta against the CG movies except for Tangled, and even then he quickly dismissed it in favor of the Princess and the Frog)

Are you referring to david kawana or the other dude?

Super Aurora wrote:

pap64 wrote: but the guy is WAY over his head (that and he has a really annoying vendetta against the CG movies except for Tangled, and even then he quickly dismissed it in favor of the Princess and the Frog)

Are you referring to david kawana or the other dude?

David Kawena. When Princess and the Frog came out, he wouldn't stop talking about it and drew several pieces of art in its honor. He even went as far as to believe that the movie had the chance to dethrone The Lion King as the biggest animated film ever.

Yet, when Tangled came out, he did nothing but "protest art" saying that it should have been in 2D, that it was generic etc. Heck, he didn't even go see the film right away. It wasn't until he ACTUALLY saw the movie then read the "art of" book that he finally gave the film credit, and finally gave Flynn Rider the chance to pose half naked in a piece.

I don't know, I understand that the beauty of Disney lies in most of their hand drawn features. But it seems rather hypocritical to claim to be a huge Disney fan, yet completely dismiss some of their effort because it is not in your preferred medium of animation.

pap64 wrote:

Super Aurora wrote: Are you referring to david kawana or the other dude?

David Kawena. When Princess and the Frog came out, he wouldn't stop talking about it and drew several pieces of art in its honor. He even went as far as to believe that the movie had the chance to dethrone The Lion King as the biggest animated film ever.

Yet, when Tangled came out, he did nothing but "protest art" saying that it should have been in 2D, that it was generic etc. Heck, he didn't even go see the film right away. It wasn't until he ACTUALLY saw the movie then read the "art of" book that he finally gave the film credit, and finally gave Flynn Rider the chance to pose half naked in a piece.

I don't know, I understand that the beauty of Disney lies in most of their hand drawn features. But it seems rather hypocritical to claim to be a huge Disney fan, yet completely dismiss some of their effort because it is not in your preferred medium of animation.

Ah thought so. I never really like him either.

PatrickvD wrote: I'm sorry but this fan-fiction type of stuff is not what I consider respect for their existing characters. At all. Let's agree to disagree right here.

I don't consider this a fanfiction in the slightest sense, so I can't be as dismissive as you are of anything that pairs characters from different films together. And I wouldn't consider it "fan service" either.

It’s no different to me than, say, Kingdom Hearts, which has a huge fan base and has been very successful for Disney. (or current or past games like Castle of Illusion, Epic Mickey, etc.) I don’t consider that in any way “fan service” or a “fangasm,” but an attempt to blend interesting characters into a story that is new, creative, and entertaining. Not everything in that vein comes off as cheesy as the P&C short sounded (that short was no doubt created for prepubescent fans of the DP line anyway, only with touches for general fans).

(that and [DavidKawena] has a really annoying vendetta against the CG movies except for Tangled, and even then he quickly dismissed it in favor of the Princess and the Frog)

I don’t agree with that at all; maybe he just doesn’t like any of their CG films prior to Tangled--arguably, most of them are pretty bad, and garishly so in some cases. Besides, even if that were the case, he wouldn’t need approval to prefer one medium over another; there is such a thing as personal taste. Moreover, I think it's outrageous to call him a hypocrite because of it. As far as I know, he could care less about most live-action Disney films at all. I find you to be the hypocrite for dismissing someone just because he doesn't cater to your view of what a Disney fan should be, based on vague ideas taken from a deviant art account.

Disney's Divinity is secretly David Kawena.