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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:32 pm
by Jules
I haven't seen any of the Tinkerbell films (though I own 3 of them on Blu-ray ... haven't gotten around to watching them yet), but it seems you guys enjoy them.

I take it they're actually quality productions. Maybe motivated by financial gain ... certainly that's how I imagine Disney management conceived the franchise. But it seems the writers and directors are genuinely trying to make good movies, no?

By the way, I only got them on Blu-ray because they were free as part of the Disney BOGOF (Buy One Get One Free) we get here in Europe. :P

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:37 pm
by ajmrowland
^so hyou got all the tinkerbell films minus the future ones on blu-ray for free? sweet! I just own the first two and rented the third one.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:22 am
by Jules
ajmrowland wrote:^so hyou got all the tinkerbell films minus the future ones on blu-ray for free? sweet! I just own the first two and rented the third one.
Well, everytime there'd be a BOGOF I'd buy a Blu-ray I want (e.g. Lion King Diamond Edition), and with it get a free Tinkerbell film.

I think the BOGOF is the best thing Disney Europe does. I love it, and it happens bi-annually. Hope they don't think of cancelling it now.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:06 pm
by pap64
Since Jules brought it up (loving the new icon BTW), I saw all three Tinker Bell movies last night and the Pixie Hollow games special. Here are my thoughts on them...

Objectively, the movies are not THAT fantastic or can compare to anything else Disney has done before in terms of enduring stories. Clearly, these are a series of movies done for the sake of a franchise line.

But, the reason the series work so well is because there is clearly a lot of love in these series. There is a lot of care in creating an interesting mythos that complements the Neverland story really well. Tinker Bell, who has been a mostly enigmatic personality beyond her sassiness and desire to be with Peter Pan at all times, is given a charming, fun, bubbly personality that anyone can identify with. She is also given friends with personalities that can bounce off of one another well, creating interesting situations and character moments. That also makes the series so endearing for many, especially children.

Going back to the mythos, they created something that is very easy to follow but is engaging. I love that fairies are responsible for the world around them, how they see humans and how they have a bigger purpose in life than we realize. Again, it makes for an interesting narrative and puts it above the cynical "let's make movies to sell dolls" mentality.

So I think that's why the Tinker Bell movies seem to have a strong following in the Disney fandom, and why they haven't been labeled as "cheap DTV movies" whose sole intentions is to create a successful merchandise line that generates TONS of revenue. It is a well made, well written, well animated affair that is very entertaining at times and its characters quite charming.

For the record, I love the third movie the best.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:07 pm
by Sotiris

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:39 pm
by Old Fish Tale
pap64 wrote:Since Jules brought it up (loving the new icon BTW), I saw all three Tinker Bell movies last night and the Pixie Hollow games special. Here are my thoughts on them...

Objectively, the movies are not THAT fantastic or can compare to anything else Disney has done before in terms of enduring stories. Clearly, these are a series of movies done for the sake of a franchise line.

But, the reason the series work so well is because there is clearly a lot of love in these series. There is a lot of care in creating an interesting mythos that complements the Neverland story really well. Tinker Bell, who has been a mostly enigmatic personality beyond her sassiness and desire to be with Peter Pan at all times, is given a charming, fun, bubbly personality that anyone can identify with. She is also given friends with personalities that can bounce off of one another well, creating interesting situations and character moments. That also makes the series so endearing for many, especially children.

Going back to the mythos, they created something that is very easy to follow but is engaging. I love that fairies are responsible for the world around them, how they see humans and how they have a bigger purpose in life than we realize. Again, it makes for an interesting narrative and puts it above the cynical "let's make movies to sell dolls" mentality.

So I think that's why the Tinker Bell movies seem to have a strong following in the Disney fandom, and why they haven't been labeled as "cheap DTV movies" whose sole intentions is to create a successful merchandise line that generates TONS of revenue. It is a well made, well written, well animated affair that is very entertaining at times and its characters quite charming.

For the record, I love the third movie the best.
I feel the same! And 'Tinker Bell and the Great Fairy Rescue' is also my favourite!

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:11 pm
by SWillie!
That a pretty spot on analysis of this series. They are by no means fantastic films, but they are highly enjoyable movies. Well said pap64

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:30 pm
by pap64
Thanks, guys! :)

Also, as I was watching the movies, I was wondering... how will it all end? If we see Peter Pan, we realize that Tinker Bell has left Pixie Hollow for good, and brought with itself a big attitude, especially regarding Peter Pan as a love interest.

Here's how I see it...

While traveling around Neverland, she is saved by Peter Pan, who looks like a pixie and flies like one too, but looks like a human. This fascinates Tink to the point where she is infatuated with him, creating a strong friendship between the two. After some events, Tink is then forced to choose between living with Peter Pan and the lost boys forever, or staying at Pixie Hollow and remain a Tinker Fairy.

With the encouragement of her friends and the Queen, Tink decides to follow her heart and go live with Peter Pan, where she goes on many adventures involving the pirates, the indians, and the Darling children.

That would be a fitting end to the series.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:18 pm
by Old Fish Tale
pap64 wrote:Thanks, guys! :)

Also, as I was watching the movies, I was wondering... how will it all end? If we see Peter Pan, we realize that Tinker Bell has left Pixie Hollow for good, and brought with itself a big attitude, especially regarding Peter Pan as a love interest.

Here's how I see it...

While traveling around Neverland, she is saved by Peter Pan, who looks like a pixie and flies like one too, but looks like a human. This fascinates Tink to the point where she is infatuated with him, creating a strong friendship between the two. After some events, Tink is then forced to choose between living with Peter Pan and the lost boys forever, or staying at Pixie Hollow and remain a Tinker Fairy.

With the encouragement of her friends and the Queen, Tink decides to follow her heart and go live with Peter Pan, where she goes on many adventures involving the pirates, the indians, and the Darling children.

That would be a fitting end to the series.
God, no! I think Tinker Bell will meet Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens on the mainland...

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:21 pm
by SWillie!
And bring him to Neverland?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:58 pm
by Old Fish Tale
That's what Barrie wrote...

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:15 pm
by pap64
Old Fish Tale wrote:That's what Barrie wrote...
Gah, that's right! Completely forgot that it was Tink that brought Peter Pan to Neverland. I always think it was a plot element written exclusively for Hook the Steven Spielberg movie :p .

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:33 pm
by Old Fish Tale
pap64 wrote:
Old Fish Tale wrote:That's what Barrie wrote...
Gah, that's right! Completely forgot that it was Tink that brought Peter Pan to Neverland. I always think it was a plot element written exclusively for Hook the Steven Spielberg movie :p .
I'm sure they'll use it...

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:32 am
by Atlantica
I do wonder how different the original movie was going to be; how the plot differed, and how they ended up altering Tink's final design.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:14 am
by Sotiris
There's a new Pixie Preview out titled How to: Have a Snowball Fight. It's in the style of the Goofy 'How to' shorts.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:00 am
by ajmrowland
Old Fish Tale wrote:
pap64 wrote:Thanks, guys! :)

Also, as I was watching the movies, I was wondering... how will it all end? If we see Peter Pan, we realize that Tinker Bell has left Pixie Hollow for good, and brought with itself a big attitude, especially regarding Peter Pan as a love interest.

Here's how I see it...

While traveling around Neverland, she is saved by Peter Pan, who looks like a pixie and flies like one too, but looks like a human. This fascinates Tink to the point where she is infatuated with him, creating a strong friendship between the two. After some events, Tink is then forced to choose between living with Peter Pan and the lost boys forever, or staying at Pixie Hollow and remain a Tinker Fairy.

With the encouragement of her friends and the Queen, Tink decides to follow her heart and go live with Peter Pan, where she goes on many adventures involving the pirates, the indians, and the Darling children.

That would be a fitting end to the series.
God, no! I think Tinker Bell will meet Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens on the mainland...
One problem.

In Tinkerbell, Wendy's already about 5 years old. 4 at least.

Not only would this remove the mystery of his age, but it would
prove most illogical.

Edit: Pixie Preview was weird.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:05 am
by Old Fish Tale
ajmrowland wrote:One problem.

In Tinkerbell, Wendy's already about 5 years old. 4 at least.

Not only would this remove the mystery of his age, but it would
prove most illogical.
I think we should wait and see...

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:15 am
by Atlantica
To be honest, this series could go on for as long as it wants, no ?

The timeline could be endless.

Again, I would STILL have loved to have seen the original version of the first film. And the slightly altered version of the third movie as well, that featured in the trailer.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:35 am
by Sotiris
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Again, I would STILL have loved to have seen the original version of the first film. And the slightly altered version of the third movie as well, that featured in the trailer.
Me too! It's too bad that's rotting away in some archive. I wish someone would leak it online.

There's some info about the original version of Tinker Bell here.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:07 am
by Atlantica
Ahh thank you for bringing back that thread; I had forgotten it was still there! Tink does seem to have been a very trouble production, even as late as the third film. Considering Disney's mentality of being terribly lazy at the moment, it is a small miracle they are still being made!