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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:12 am
by milojthatch
I hope Pixar is paying attention. Any place I see this question come up, it comes down to the same answer over all: Pixar NEEDS to leave their films alone except for "The Incredibles." That one NEEDS a sequel.
I'd have to say I agree with that. In fact, they could make at least two more films for that possible "franchise" and I'd be ok with that. As has been said, super hero films lend themselves to multiple stories.
I think outside of that, they need to let their films be stand alone projects. I could maybe see a "Toy Story 4" or "A Bug's Life 2," but don't see a point to either. For films like "Monster's Inc." and "Ratatouille," a sequel could actual hurt the originals. I'm less then thrilled with another "Monster's Inc.," however, since it is a prequel, it may be ok. But I'm still not excited for it.
As for "Cars 2," I'm actually more excited for "Kung Fu Panda 2" honestly. That said, I'll still be there opening day becuase as has also been said, it is still Pixar and until they make a crappy movie, they have my movie ticket money.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:42 am
by ajmrowland
^I :lol:ed at you stating your opinion as fact.
No movie really NEEDS a sequel unless it's part of an ongoing plot like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.
The only thing it really comes down to is "can this movie live up to it's predecessor?"
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:26 pm
by milojthatch
ajmrowland wrote:^I :lol:ed at you stating your opinion as fact.
No movie really NEEDS a sequel unless it's part of an ongoing plot like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.
The only thing it really comes down to is "can this movie live up to it's predecessor?"
I'd argue every Superhero based film NEEDS a sequel for the very same reason a "Star Wars" or "Lord of the Rings" would. Sequels are as important to the over all story with this genera as any other would be, if it is told right. That is becuase super hero films are stories about a heroes quest. "Spider-Man," "Batman," "Iron Man," all of these film series as of late have been made right and show an over all arc each hero takes on to be a better person. Bob Parr's quest isn't over yet. There is still more story to tell if the story tellers are willing to tell it.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:03 pm
by magicalwands
milojthatch wrote:ajmrowland wrote:^I :lol:ed at you stating your opinion as fact.
No movie really NEEDS a sequel unless it's part of an ongoing plot like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.
The only thing it really comes down to is "can this movie live up to it's predecessor?"
I'd argue every Superhero based film NEEDS a sequel for the very same reason a "Star Wars" or "Lord of the Rings" would. Sequels are as important to the over all story with this genera as any other would be, if it is told right. That is becuase super hero films are stories about a heroes quest. "Spider-Man," "Batman," "Iron Man," all of these film series as of late have been made right and show an over all arc each hero takes on to be a better person. Bob Parr's quest isn't over yet. There is still more story to tell if the story tellers are willing to tell it.
Wow, you really know how to pack a punch with your words. Please go up to Pixar because this speech will definitely green-light a sequel! Thanks, I really want an Incredibles sequel.

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:02 pm
by Wonderlicious
I'm not exactly against sequels, but I'm equally not exactly for them for varying reasons.
1. As much fun as any sequels can be, there's always a fear that they're cash-ins. I can't help but think that Cars 2 was only green-lit because the first film sold a lot of merchandise. Something tells me that it will be Pixar's first film to at least receive a critical blasting.
2. It seems a bit problematic to have a sequel to a film that's a good few years old. Do you go and pretend as though no time has passed, using replacement actors if needed, and overall having a general sense of ignorance to the boundaries of time? I had fears that Toy Story 3 would go and seem like a continuation without taking into consideration, but that fortunately took into consideration the fact that a decade had passed by having Andy as an eighteen year-old and the toys left in storage. Monsters University is going the other way by being a prequel.
3. There's always the fear that you could lose the tone and meaning of the original. Toy Story 3 captured a lot of the atmosphere of the first two films, but I'm worried further instalments of other films won't match their predecessors in style and tone. As I said, I'm sceptical about Cars 2. The idea of it being about a world grand-prix sounded cute, but the fact that it looks to be a sort of Bond-pastiche seems to go against the laid-back nature of the first film. Equally, I'm having trouble with the idea of Monsters University, as it seems to ignore on paper much of the first film's message and story.
As for each Pixar film on a case by case basis:
A Bug's Life: I can't see a sequel ever being made, and I feel the only. Maybe a TV show or a set of shorts focussing on
Monsters, Inc: I would have preferred any sequel to involve Mike meeting up with Boo, as was planned in the Circle 7 sequel.
Finding Nemo: I can't see a sequel doing much here.
The Incredibles: A sequel doesn't seem out of the question, but I think a TV series or theme-park 4D movie (possibly for Tomorrowland/Epcot as the final replacement for "Honey, I Shrunk the Audience" and "Captain EO").
Cars: The world itself has lots of openings for spin-offs, but I think something like "Mater's Tall Tales" would be better. I've already expressed my qualms about Cars 2.
Ratatouille: Everything was so neatly wrapped up, that any spin-off or continuation isn't really needed or wanted.
WALL-E: Even more so that Ratatouille due to its rather experimental nature, a sequel doesn't scream to be made.
Up: Once more, it was so perfectly wrapped up.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:32 pm
by Super Aurora
I was at comic store in NYC today and I did see a comic line for Incredibles and Cars, I didn't check it out or read it, but from viewing the cover, it look like the Incredibles comic was done well.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:35 pm
by ajmrowland
magicalwands wrote:milojthatch wrote:
I'd argue every Superhero based film NEEDS a sequel for the very same reason a "Star Wars" or "Lord of the Rings" would. Sequels are as important to the over all story with this genera as any other would be, if it is told right. That is becuase super hero films are stories about a heroes quest. "Spider-Man," "Batman," "Iron Man," all of these film series as of late have been made right and show an over all arc each hero takes on to be a better person. Bob Parr's quest isn't over yet. There is still more story to tell if the story tellers are willing to tell it.
Wow, you really know how to pack a punch with your words. Please go up to Pixar because this speech will definitely green-light a sequel! Thanks, I really want an Incredibles sequel.

met too! But the reason that the Incredibles would need a sequel is very different from that of Star Wars or Lord of the Rings.