Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:44 pm
I would say the 50's, the most consistently good films came from that era.
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Actually The Little Mermaid is an 80's film!Lady wrote:my fave period is the 90's (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Hunchback). not only because of the quality of the films produced during this decade but also because i grew up and repeatedly watched these films.
I disagree - I think the 50's films improved on the 40's films in most respects. They may not be as lushly animated in some cases as Snow White & Pinocchio, but I'd say the storytelling and character development improved. Movies like Bambi and Dumbo, as great as they were, strike me as subjects for a half-hour cartoon stretched to be feature length, resulting in some of the most uneeded and inconsequential segments in any of the Disney films. The 50's still had some of that, but vastly improved.Joe Carioca wrote:Yes, the 1950s also saw the creation of some of the most important animated features ever. As great as they are, they aren’t up to the standards of the first five features. Even though character animation continued to evolve more and more, they weren’t as daring in the use of special effects (including MultiPlane shots) and storytelling (the only exception is “Sleeping Beauty”)
I agree with you, Jake. Storytelling wise, the films DID improve during the 50s. What I mean is, they aren't as DARING as the film in the 40s. They don't have such dark elements as Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi or even Dumbo. Not that this is a bad thing at all. It seems Walt was afraid to scare its audience (and its said he really was, specially after the Evil Queen and Chernabog). For example, one of the motives the Jabewrock sequence from "Alice" was dropped was because Walt though it might have been too scary.Jack wrote:I disagree - I think the 50's films improved on the 40's films in most respects. They may not be as lushly animated in some cases as Snow White & Pinocchio, but I'd say the storytelling and character development improved. Movies like Bambi and Dumbo, as great as they were, strike me as subjects for a half-hour cartoon stretched to be feature length, resulting in some of the most uneeded and inconsequential segments in any of the Disney films. The 50's still had some of that, but vastly improved.Joe Carioca wrote:Yes, the 1950s also saw the creation of some of the most important animated features ever. As great as they are, they aren’t up to the standards of the first five features. Even though character animation continued to evolve more and more, they weren’t as daring in the use of special effects (including MultiPlane shots) and storytelling (the only exception is “Sleeping Beauty”)
And yes, the 40's was more daring, in terms of trying new things in the artistry of animation. But I think the 50's were bold and daring in more important aspects - story and characters.
Just my "opin-iaw", as Cajun Man would say.
In what way is Snow White more lushly animated than Cinderella or Peter Pan?Jack wrote:I disagree - I think the 50's films improved on the 40's films in most respects. They may not be as lushly animated in some cases as Snow White & Pinocchio.
If you compare them, Alice & Peter Pan are much simpler in animation & backgrounds than Snow White, Pinocchio, & Fantasia You don't see a lot of airbrush, and there isn't as frequent use of the multiplane camera. Those three were extremely detailed in virtually every way.rodis wrote:In what way is Snow White more lushly animated than Cinderella or Peter Pan?Jack wrote:I disagree - I think the 50's films improved on the 40's films in most respects. They may not be as lushly animated in some cases as Snow White & Pinocchio.
You mean in Alice and Peter Pan there isn't a lot of use of airbrush, right?Jack wrote:If you compare them, Alice & Peter Pan are much simpler in animation & backgrounds than Snow White, Pinocchio, & Fantasia You don't see a lot of airbrush, and there isn't as frequent use of the multiplane camera. Those three were extremely detailed in virtually every way.
Yeah, sorry if my post came off as confusing - I was referring to Alice & Peter Pan. The airbrush is a tool that is used to get the effect that you see on Snow White's and Pinocchio's cheeks - those rosey, hazy looking circles. That's not all it was used for, that's just an example.rodis wrote:Jack wrote:You mean in Alice and Peter Pan there isn't a lot of use of airbrush, right?
Isn't airbrushing what they do to cleberities pics?? lol what is it then?
Oh, OK, got itJack wrote:Yeah, sorry if my post came off as confusing - I was referring to Alice & Peter Pan. The airbrush is a tool that is used to get the effect that you see on Snow White's and Pinocchio's cheeks - those rosey, hazy looking circles. That's not all it was used for, that's just an example.
Besides the airbrush, Snow White and Pinocchio were more detailed in their backgrounds and character animation than almost any of the films that followed them.
If you have the Fantasia Anthology DVD box, there is a great featurette on airbrushing the animation cels (actualy, it is an extract from "The Story of the Animated Drawing" Disneyland episode).rodis wrote:Oh, OK, got itJack wrote:Yeah, sorry if my post came off as confusing - I was referring to Alice & Peter Pan. The airbrush is a tool that is used to get the effect that you see on Snow White's and Pinocchio's cheeks - those rosey, hazy looking circles. That's not all it was used for, that's just an example.
Besides the airbrush, Snow White and Pinocchio were more detailed in their backgrounds and character animation than almost any of the films that followed them.I really love how "Snow White" looks, even if it's a bit dark.
Yeah, there's a reason they call Snow White's Queen The Evil Queen. And I thought the part with Alice was so sad. Fo some reason I thought that was one of the saddest moments of a Disney film I've seen. It's just sad because she's become lost and confused and misses her home and family. That scene always got me going a little bit.Jack wrote:Well, yes, I think Snow White is the darkest of all the Disney features, and the rest of the films from the 40's are pretty dark too. But I think Alice is pretty daring, dark and demented - the scene where Alice is crying and the forest becomes completely black around her is a really dark moment, among others. I'd say Sleeping Beauty is reletively dark too.
But yes, I do agree that the 40's were darker in general. That doesn't make the films nessisarily better though. Don't get me wrong - the first five animated features are some of my all time favorites. But in terms of which films are better in quality overall, I'd choose 50's.
I would tend to agree, but rather than name a decade I would name a "period", starting with The Little Mermaid in 1989 and running through to Mulan in 1999, which was really the start of a new era with a new studio (which is now closing).MickeyMousePal wrote:The best decade is the 1990's it has very good movies through out the 10-year period.
In 1990 it started with The Rescuers Down Under...