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Honestly, I think it'd be interesting. They've made an interracial couple in The Princess and the Frog.

Of course, unless I'm mistaken, they did hint at a homosexual couple thing between Hugo and Djali in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. To be precise, Hugo had a thing for Djali. By the way, before you say anything, Djali is male, hence Esmeralda saying "He doesn't take kindly to soldiers." So.... yeah.

Yes, I would want to see a sequel in which Ariel and Jasmine hook up. Of course the plot includes Jasmine cheating on Ariel with Tiana, and there will be explicit scenes...

But as long as Hollywood in general remains so hetero-centred, Disney won't show a gay couple in any of their films. Just think about how little serious, leading gay couples we've seen in Hollywood films. (I'm not talking about the stereotyped 'gay couple for comic relief' here.) And even if films are made about a gay couple, it's always a heavy dramatic story (like Brokeback Mountain). I'd like to see a film in which the hero who saves the world just *happens to be* gay.

But don't expect Disney to do anything like that before all other studios have done it.

I'd definitely be open to it. I love love stories, period, regardless of who is in love.

reyquila wrote:No.

So, do you mean you would NOT be buying?

Sorry, couldn't resist!

Margos wrote:Come on Disney! Lesbian princesses, please!!! (If I wish hard enough on the evening star, it is sure to come true... please please please!!!)

Seconded!

Disney's Divinity wrote:But this is kind of a waste of time, because, of course, all the straight people will say no because they only like to see couples like themselves. And of course all the gay people will see yes, because they would like to see a couple like themselves for once. The only difference: most gay fans are able to empathize with straight couples. Love isn't a two-way street though, it seems.

I'm sorry, but that is a very prejudiged way of thinking. What did us straight persons do to deserve that?

Margos wrote:I wanna see it! You know, I think that if I was in charge of the princess franchise..... Look, just here me out....
1. If you have 2 princesses, you make twice as much money because you can sell twice as many dolls.
2. Disney Princess, as a franchise, has been all about diversity and girl-power lately. Lesbians are a minority, and are full of girl power! Why the heck not!

Come on Disney! Lesbian princesses, please!!! (If I wish hard enough on the evening star, it is sure to come true... please please please!!!)

i cant see little girls begging their mothers to buy them the stereotypical dyke doll with cropped hair, tattoos and biceps. lol.

i consider myself a lesbian for the most part. i do find some guys cute, but not enough to call myself bi.
i would love to see an animated movie featuring a same sex couple, whether men or women. i cant see disney doing it to be honest... they have too much of a rep to protect. i cant see ghibli doing it either, though it would be beautiful. dreamworks... maybe, but not for ages yet.

disneyjedi, i had forgotten about about hugo and djali. not only would it be considered "homosexual" but possibly beastiality as well?
i dont think disney films were meant to be picked apart so much!

David S. wrote:

reyquila wrote:No.

So, do you mean you would NOT be buying?

Sorry, couldn't resist!

No, he'd still buy it. He just won't watch it. It will be on his self collecting dust.

If it took them this long for a black princess I'll be long dead before Disney has a gay couple on screen.

But to answer your question, yes I would love it

Goliath wrote:

Margos wrote:Come on Disney! Lesbian princesses, please!!! (If I wish hard enough on the evening star, it is sure to come true... please please please!!!)

Seconded!

I third it. Please make it explicit

In all honesty, to the question: Do I 'want' to see a gay couple? Neither yes or no. The only 'want' I have in my Disney movies are great characters, stories and animation. I could care less about the character's ethnicity, gender and sexual preferences.

If Disney was going to have a gay couple, they missed their chance with Hercules, as we all know about ancient Greece.

jpanimation wrote:
In all honesty, to the question: Do I 'want' to see a gay couple? Neither yes or no. The only 'want' I have in my Disney movies are great characters, stories and animation. I could care less about the character's ethnicity, gender and sexual preferences.

That's very well said. I agree. It is about the story and great characters, so if a story were to be told with gay characters, as long as it's a good story and they're good characters...

sunhuntin wrote: i cant see little girls begging their mothers to buy them the stereotypical dyke doll with cropped hair, tattoos and biceps. lol.

It would be more fun, though, if they didn't look like stereotypes!

But even if they (or one of them anyway) did, I would totally buy that doll! She'd be on my shelf next to Belle and Tiana and Cindy, and even if she looked really out of place, I wouldn't care! It would just be the coolest thing ever!

blackcauldron85 wrote:

jpanimation wrote:In all honesty, to the question: Do I 'want' to see a gay couple? Neither yes or no. The only 'want' I have in my Disney movies are great characters, stories and animation. I could care less about the character's ethnicity, gender and sexual preferences.

That's very well said. I agree. It is about the story and great characters, so if a story were to be told with gay characters, as long as it's a good story and they're good characters...

Ditto.

Story and characterization should always come first.

albert

Goliath wrote:What did us straight persons do to deserve that?

That's a bit of a loaded question.

And I do realize that was a generalization, but that is how the majority would react.

I have thought about this before and my answer is yes. Having a black female lead in Walt's time would have been unthinkable. Give it 100 years. Hopefully the world will be an more accepting place by then. Sure some will still object, but I personally think that a movie like this would be good for children. It would teach that love is love no matter the two people its between.

Hell no, I wouldn't want to see that.

As an openly gay man, I would like to see it happen someday. I just think that it's unrealistic to not have a gay couple ever featured in a disney film. I don't think anyone has never not known a gay person before.

I think it would be relatively easy for disney to start including gay characters as co-stars in a film. Hermes from Hercules comes off that way for example.

Margos wrote:
It would be more fun, though, if they didn't look like stereotypes!

But even if they (or one of them anyway) did, I would totally buy that doll! She'd be on my shelf next to Belle and Tiana and Cindy, and even if she looked really out of place, I wouldn't care! It would just be the coolest thing ever!

i would buy it as well, even though im not really a fan of the princess line. would be too hard to resist.

and doesnt ken, though not "all disney" class as an almost gay character?

Hmm, yes...but only if it is done very well. No cliche storyline. Musical? I would have to say yes because it'll make it gay-er, therefore awesome-er.

Disney Duster wrote:The answer is yes.

All who say no are homophobes. They say they aren't, but, yea right.

And coolmanio is a homophobe too as he said he would think children would be confused instead of, you know, learning something new as we all learn new things we have never seen before when we watch Disney films that have things we have never seen before, like other countries, etc.

toonaspie, they made The Lion King and Lilo & Stitch, their own original stories. They can make up an original story that has Disney themes and Disney essence about a gay couple.

that's an unfounded accusation.

I say yes, but it should be devoid of cliches and offensive material. The idea should not be pressed, either, but rather be treated naturally(unless it's about the issues of being gay). Disney Magic should be there. Also, they should cough up enough money to the MPAA to avoid an r or NC-17 rating because another film about a gay couple (with inexplicit gay sex) fell prey to NC-17

I think it's inevitable that Disney will eventually make gay characters in a movie. It'll just take a long time before we reach that stage. Think about how Disney stories have changed since Walt's time in terms of race. Compare the indians in Peter Pan with the indians in Pocahontas for example.

Our attitudes towards gender, race and sexuality are changing and evolving all the time. If we look at how much the representation of gender and race has changed in Disney over the years, it seems only logical that sexuality should follow suit.

At the moment unfortunately many people still view being gay as wrong or sinful. When being gay becomes an accepted part of everyday life, and I'm sure that someday it will, it will no longer be hidden from children as though it's some kind of dirty secret. I think it would do no harm whatsoever to allow children to see gay couples on TV. It could even end the terrible emotional struggles involved with coming out for some in their teens or adult years simply because they no longer think of it as being some kind of freakish difference between them and everyone else. They've been introduced to the idea from a young age and accept it as a part of life.

Of course in the current climate it would cause confusion, but we only have ourselves to blame for trying to "shelter" children and hide the idea of homosexuality from them. If we can allow them to see a man and a woman walk down the street holding hands why can't we allow them to see two men or two women? Their relationship is just as valid, and teaching a child this lesson early in life could end the homophobia and struggle for equality many still face today.