Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:45 am
I watched Alien (1979) last night for the first time. I thought it was a pretty good sci-fi film, though the first half hour was kind of slow.
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I know it's a classic film, and highly regared by critics and fans alike, but I couldn't help but roll my eyes all the way through it. It's supposed to be an exciting, suspensefull film, but I had to laugh out loud during supposedly 'serious' moments.PixarFan2006 wrote:I watched Alien (1979) last night for the first time. I thought it was a pretty good sci-fi film, though the first half hour was kind of slow.
Could that possibly have anything to do with the terrible Alien costume? The close-ups of just the head look alright but when they show the full body standing straight up like a human, its embarrassing (when he gets launched out the airlock, I swear I can see the zipper). Its as bad as the 76 Kings Kong ape costume, way too cheesy. When the Alien pops out of the chest and looks around, it seriously moves like a stiff sock puppet, and just looses all shock value. This is one movie I wouldn't mind if they went back and fixed the Alien FX (not add/change scenes, just fix the FX). The CG and the puppets in AVP (terrible movie) look way more convincing, so if they could just digitally composite a new puppet or CG alien over the old, it would add a whole level of seriousness to the film that you just don't get with the all too obvious man in costume Alien.Goliath wrote:I know it's a classic film, and highly regared by critics and fans alike, but I couldn't help but roll my eyes all the way through it. It's supposed to be an exciting, suspensefull film, but I had to laugh out loud during supposedly 'serious' moments.PixarFan2006 wrote:I watched Alien (1979) last night for the first time. I thought it was a pretty good sci-fi film, though the first half hour was kind of slow.


"A stiff sock puppet".jpanimation wrote:Could that possibly have anything to do with the terrible Alien costume? The close-ups of just the head look alright but when they show the full body standing straight up like a human, its embarrassing (when he gets launched out the airlock, I swear I can see the zipper). Its as bad as the 76 Kings Kong ape costume, way too cheesy. When the Alien pops out of the chest and looks around, it seriously moves like a stiff sock puppet, and just looses all shock value.






After he brutally attacked Ripley, you laughed? Did ya miss the fact that he was beating the shit out of a human being?Goliath wrote:"A stiff sock puppet".jpanimation wrote:Could that possibly have anything to do with the terrible Alien costume? The close-ups of just the head look alright but when they show the full body standing straight up like a human, its embarrassing (when he gets launched out the airlock, I swear I can see the zipper). Its as bad as the 76 Kings Kong ape costume, way too cheesy. When the Alien pops out of the chest and looks around, it seriously moves like a stiff sock puppet, and just looses all shock value.That's an apt discription! What really killed what little credit the film still held after that disappointment, was when it was revealed that the doctor was really a robot and his head came off. Supposed to be a scary revelation. I rolled over the floor laughing at how pathetic it looked.
I take a few points off it myself because of the slow start and the science-fiction fanciness of the many scenes dealing with the tech of the Nostromo ship. Not only am I not a real fan of science fiction, but I'm also not all that compelled by the truck drivers-thing. Nothing personal, I just haven't met one yet who cared to get my attention. We're like two worlds never aware of the others' existence, we go right through each other. So, it took a long time for the movie to get going. Which means it seems like it was made for someone else- not my kind of thing. But once it does finally get going, it doesn't stop. It's cold, scary, and very vivid. Very much inspired by the seminal Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Ridley Scott wanted the audience to feel the space and the air and the moisture. When Dallas touches a pile of goo, I could feel it! It's a truly sensory film and a very rich one at that. And why should that get a lot of praise? Maybe because there are very few films like that out there. And because it impresses very many people for different reasons. It's won me over. And as you can probably tell- that's not an easy thing.Goliath wrote:And of course the end was sooooo predictable! Of course the creature is going to come back "one more time" after the protagonist though she killed it for good.For a film that is *this* predictable, it sure gets a lot of praise.
I think in this case, they were probably thinking more along the lines of a "military weapon" kind of thing. And the fact that Ash the robot was the science officer, means that they were also probably trying to slip in a little message about: in the wrong hands, used for the wrong purposes- science is a force for evil too. Someone had to program this robot to know science- so we know there was an evil scientist in the corporation or government behind Ash.Goliath wrote:However, the social commentary of the film ("the corporation values money over everything else and is readily prepared to sacrifice human lives to obtain it") is something I still appreciate.
Yes, after that! It was SO totally ridiculous! His head comes off and all I could do was roll my eyes. It was SO bad.Lazario wrote:After he brutally attacked Ripley, you laughed? Did ya miss the fact that he was beating the shit out of a human being?