Escapay wrote:
The only Star Wars "in" Star Trek are weakly-supported similarities and broad characterizations or situations that can be apparent in any sci-fi movie if people looked hard enough. That's why I'm annoyed whenever anyone (Trek or Wars fan) tries to slam on 2009 Trek without really considering anything beyond Trek and Wars. It's ridiculous and petty and ill-informed.
albert
I think I get it now, it's a personal "this ticks me off" for you? I can understand that feeling, I have penalty of my own beyond how the latest Trek film was made.
Just keep this in mind, it may be ridicules to you and others, but to me and like-minded people on this subject, not really. To each his own, right?
But one thing I have learned is you can't win a debate if your opponent throws out all of your evidence. Clearly, you don't see any of what I've shared as valid, and it's your right to do so, but there isn't much more point trying to win the case here if you don't even accept the evidence.
I firmly believe I have hard hitting evidence and I'm rather sure many others would agree. I guess you just will never be one of them. I'm ok with that. "Star Trek" has a big place in my heart, maybe a bigger place then I should let a piece of fiction, but I think most people have something like that that is special to them.
For years I have been told that "Star Wars" is cooler, and why would I waste my fandom on Trek. Then they come out with the new film which is a CLEAR knock off of Star Wars and people who never like Trek before suddenly like it.
You may not see it, but I do and it ticks me off to no end! It's VERY personal to me. I stood by the franchise during "Voyager" and "Enterprise" and the last two "TNG" films when everyone else was bailing on it, and this is the thanks I get? Thanks a lot Paramount. I feel utterly betrayed here and all you can say is "Get over yourself Fan Boy?"
I never liked the term and don't think of myself as one. Fan boys kind of get lumped together and I really have little interest in many things "Fan Boys" would be interested in. But when it comes to Trek, you can call me whatever you want, everyone else does, but I don't really care. I'm a true blue fan.
And as far as "being ill informed" I'll have you know I'm VERY much informed. In fact in college I'm an English major and have read and re-read TONS of things on story structure. I'm well aware of archetypes, than you very much. And you know what? No, I didn't mis read the words "Put more Star Wars into Star Trek." I very much am up on the meaning. It is what it is. I would not at all be surprised if the next one has EVEN more Star Wars in it. But we'll have to see now, won't we.
In conclusion Sir, you may have your personal tiff, but so do I. Maybe it's best we don't cross them again, it could lead to very, VERY long posts of nothing more then rants from both sides.
Again, fun chatting with you. And yes by the way, the "Official" Cannon Disney Animated films list MATTERS. It matters what film is in what order and what makes the list and what does not. Films like "Pete's Dragon" will NEVER be on that list. That rant was from an old post back a bit. I think with that I've gotten it all off my chest now.
) I hope when they do E.T. on Blu-ray they give us the original version too.
