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So they have a 1.85:1 in Germany?

Anyone know about this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heavyweights-To ... 863&sr=8-1

I actually wanted to see that movie (Heavyweights), but now I mayaswell wait until I can get my hands on an international release.

They edited out words like 'ass' and 'you suck'???

That is so pathetic it becomes funny.

They actually put time and money in editing totally harmless words out.

(I don't even know this film, but this is ridiculous.)

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/161210/H ... oduct.html

albert

OK, so that page says it's widescreen.

So that means the almighty UD index page isn't 100% accurate? *hides*

Regardless, I don't mean to undermine anybody but that's why I use external websites to research stuff. So it's from an official (or semi-official, at least) source.

I'll have to contact one of my friends in the UK and see if they can't give me an ISO of that. Anyone want a slowed down/speed-fixed NTSC version once I make one?

I would love one. Heavyweights is one of my favorite movies ever!

drfsupercenter wrote: Anyone want a slowed down/speed-fixed NTSC version once I make one?

Me! Me! Me! ::raises hand high in the air:: I'd love an ntsc version in widescreen

ME! (I can hear you groaning, sorry. ) I think I saw it once, but it's been a million years, so I'd like to see it again, and in it's OAR at that.

alright, well, first I have to get my hands on a widescreen PAL source.

I'll post back here once I finish it... though it'll probably be a while since I don't have the source yet.

Found a pertinent article in the June/July 1996 "Disney Channel Magazine" issue. I'll transcribe it here, but it is interesting to note that Judd Apatow was a co-writer for "Heavyweights". Perhaps that is where all the cursing came from



"The Underdogs of Heavyweights"

Director/Writer Steven Brill and Co-Writer Judd Apatow brought personal experience and insight to Heavyweights, the Disney comedy about kids at a fat camp who rebel against tyrannical guru Tony Perkis (Ben Stiller in an outrageous comedic turn). Both Brill and Apatow spent part of their younger days engaged in activities that left them out of adolescent society's mainstream. Brill, a self-described "Jewish kid from Miami," experienced life one summer at an athletic YMCA camp; Apatow prefered to wile away his spare time in the control booth of his school's radio station. So when the two turned their hand to Heavyweights, the result was a "movie about underdogs," Apatow says, "kids who are really cool but, because they don't act, or in this case, look the same as everybody else, are treated like they aren't cool." Brill also adds that, "Heavyweights has a rebellious spirit to it, a real raucous quality, but not crass for the sake of being crass. It's not about losing or gaining weight. It's about societal misfits and how what you see isn't necessarily all there is."




Heavyweights was released to theatres on February 17, 1995. It was also released on VHS home video later that year.

Heavyweights had it's world television premiere on The Magical World of Disney Sunday Night, June 7, 1996 on The Disney Channel.

I'd like a copy!

I wonder if the Pal version is still edited...

I wish Disney would put this movie in the vault and release Song of the South.

Seriously, is there anything more offensive than the fat kids food orgy in Heavyweights in Song of the South?

Fat kids rubbing food all over their bodies and faces and farting, is stereotypical at best, and worth revisiting as prejudice at it's worst.

And no, I'm not a fat kid.

This is THE worst Disney movie, ever.

I was a fat kid, Skippy, and I consider myself chunky at the moment and I LOVE Heavyweights. I don't, nor have I ever, found it offensive in any way. And being a fat kid when this movie came out, it was a big deal to see a movie with a message that says its ok to not look the same way everyone wants you to as long as you are happy.

I agree that some of the jokes can be a bit crass, but the "food orgy" leads to one of my favorite lines in the entire film:

"Tim: What have we learned kids?

Roy: You don't put Twinkies on your pizza!"

drfsupercenter wrote:Yeah, I thought Flight of the Navigator was pretty foul language in comparison to other Disney movies. But I did like it.

And somehow I think Spaceballs is the only movie to have an F-word and be PG... ironically I was just watching that earlier on Retro TV network. And it was uncensored. Not sure what it was rated for TV airing...
(I know you're only supposed to have one F-word for a PG-13 but movies like Ocean's Eleven have gotten away with as many as four...)[/list]

I also believe the PG rated film "Big" has the f-bomb.

goofystitch wrote:I was a fat kid, Skippy, and I consider myself chunky at the moment and I LOVE Heavyweights. I don't, nor have I ever, found it offensive in any way. And being a fat kid when this movie came out, it was a big deal to see a movie with a message that says its ok to not look the same way everyone wants you to as long as you are happy.

I agree that some of the jokes can be a bit crass, but the "food orgy" leads to one of my favorite lines in the entire film:

"Tim: What have we learned kids?

Roy: You don't put Twinkies on your pizza!"

Did you and your friends ever had food orgy?

Rubbing the food on your body in an erotic manner?

Yuck.

In a few years, with the obesity problem in America, this film will be viewed like blackface comedy.

To me, the point of the movie is what you said Goofystitch, and then they go for fat kid jokes and the disturbing food orgy scene, which not only cheapens the message but overshadows it. It's like if someone made a movie about equal rights for an ethnic group and then used stereotypes and ethnic slurs throughout the movie.

My old man was obese, and I don't think ridicule and food orgies is a way to be progressive or promote tolerance.

What a horrible waste of celluloid. Right up there with Meet the Deedles.

OK, in all my life I have yet to hear of a human being having a "food orgy" so I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with a stereotype of any race/gender/body type. I was a chubby kid, and I still am pretty chubby and never did it cross my mind that I should be offended at all by this movie.

Well, disappointing to read that this DVD is edited! I just bought it! Haven't watched it yet. At 4.99, I was willing to deal with the fullscreen format since there's no other option in the U.S., but that editing is just ridiculous. Oh well, I love the movie and wanted it anyway.

skippy wrote: In a few years, with the obesity problem in America, this film will be viewed like blackface comedy.

Um... yeah... The two are NOTHING alike.

People have the choice to lose weight.

littlefuzzy wrote:

skippy wrote: In a few years, with the obesity problem in America, this film will be viewed like blackface comedy.

Um... yeah... The two are NOTHING alike.

People have the choice to lose weight.

Try telling that to the people that have been struggling to lose weight all their lives. I wish it *was* a willpower thing but there are so many contributing factors to all aspects of your health, including issues that are beyond our control (like genetics).

People can be extremely prejudiced against those that struggle with their weight and feel it's justified since bigger people are supposedly "lazy" and "greedy." It's an unfortunate stereotype. It seems ironic that it's because of this stereotype that films like this one or Shallow Hal tend to make some people uncomfortable.

It also sucks that society basically tells us that you can't possibly be happy with yourself if you're a big person. These types of films point out that it's not true, yet people still get offended? I don't get it.

enigmawing wrote:

littlefuzzy wrote: Um... yeah... The two are NOTHING alike.

People have the choice to lose weight.

Try telling that to the people that have been struggling to lose weight all their lives. I wish it *was* a willpower thing but there are so many contributing factors to all aspects of your health, including issues that are beyond our control (like genetics).

People can be extremely prejudiced against those that struggle with their weight and feel it's justified since bigger people are supposedly "lazy" and "greedy." It's an unfortunate stereotype. It seems ironic that it's because of this stereotype that films like this one or Shallow Hal tend to make some people uncomfortable.

It also sucks that society basically tells us that you can't possibly be happy with yourself if you're a big person. These types of films point out that it's not true, yet people still get offended? I don't get it.

99% of people CAN lose weight if they work hard enough at it. It isn't just crash diets, those actually make you gain weight in the long run. You need to completely change your eating and exercise habits, and stick with those changes.

And yes, I'm heavy myself, and have always been so. I love good food, and my activities are all sedentary - movies, video games, reading, surfing the net, and so on.

littlefuzzy wrote: 99% of people CAN lose weight if they work hard enough at it. It isn't just crash diets, those actually make you gain weight in the long run. You need to completely change your eating and exercise habits, and stick with those changes.

And yes, I'm heavy myself, and have always been so. I love good food, and my activities are all sedentary - movies, video games, reading, surfing the net, and so on.

What enigmawing says is quite correct. You can't apply your own experience on everyone else. I've known plenty of active overweight people who actually did not eat much and ate rather healthily. Yes, MOST people probably could lose weight if they "worked hard enough", but for many that would mean exercising for the better part of the day (something most of us do not have time to do and many cannot do or do well due to other health problems) and eating next to nothing at the same time. And still, there are people for whom such practices would not work. No two people are alike.

On top of this are other contributing factors. Sometimes medications people have to have will cause a lot of weight gain. Some people have such difficulty breathing, through no fault of their own, that exercise is always labored and weight gain is inevitable. And, yes, genetics is a factor. I'm not saying anyone should stop trying to lose weight, but there is definitely a lot of prejudice and ignorance about the subject out there. It's rather ridiculous that, even today, anyone overweight on TV is often depicted as constantly eating... This is not always the case.

Regardless, I love Heavyweights. Very entertaining flick.