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PeterPanfan wrote:

I'll agree with that one. I honestly could not finish watching it. I tried to a few times, and each time I turned it off.

Oddly enough, Napoleon Dynamite AND Hot Rod are two of my FAVORITE comedies. Some others (just to give an example of my tastes) are Young Frankenstein, Three Amigos, Office Space, Just Friends, Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Elf, Bringing Up Baby, and many others.

Well, I like Young Frankenstein... as well as Spaceballs and most other Mel Brooks parodies... Office Space was pretty funny, at least the half of it I saw on TV. (I'm now adding it to my rental list, thanks for reminding me )
Elf I liked the first time, but it got boring when they kept playing it on TV around Christmas.

As far as The Dark Knight goes... I liked the movie, I really did, but I also have some things I didn't like about it. One was it was REALLY REALLY long. Two-face didn't have much screen time, and really, he didn't need to be in the movie at all. It could have just been Harvey Dent and the Joker... and then in the sequel he'd become Two-face and maybe partner with one of the other smaller villains.

I actually think I liked Batman Begins better (and that's tied for one of my favorite movies)... it focuses more on the story and how he became Batman, instead of just fighting and weird stuff the whole time.
And I do think TDK was over-hyped... it's a good movie but it's not the greatest movie ever made, and it's kinda funny how SO many people went to see it, and how it did so well. I know Heath Ledger died but why does that make it the best movie of the summer?

DarthPrime wrote:

PeterPanfan wrote:

I'll agree with that one. I honestly could not finish watching it. I tried to a few times, and each time I turned it off.

What is WRONG with you people?!?!?! lol

xxhplinkxx wrote:

DarthPrime wrote: I'll agree with that one. I honestly could not finish watching it. I tried to a few times, and each time I turned it off.

What is WRONG with you people?!?!?! lol

We have taste?

Lazario wrote:

xxhplinkxx wrote:What is WRONG with you people?!?!?! lol

We have taste?

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!




Sometimes.

My Mom hates it too, but I have a friend who likes it.

I've never seen it, but the fact that it made AFI's top 25 musicals list while Fiddler on the Roof, Oliver!, Oklahoma! and others never even made the cut bothers me (there are others thins I don't like on that list too though).

Lazario wrote:14.

Ohhhh, definitely overrated. It won an Oscar? Come on now.

ETA

And I also forgot to say that Office Space is overrated. It might need a second viewing, though.

Also, there are a few Asian films that deserve a spot in this thread: Oldboy, Audition, My Sassy Girl (really?), Be with You, etc. The #1 spot goes to... *drumroll* Always -- Sunset on Third Street. It's like the Titanic of Japan, but it's not even well-made, and the performances are dreadful.

drfsupercenter wrote: As far as The Dark Knight goes... I liked the movie, I really did, but I also have some things I didn't like about it. One was it was REALLY REALLY long. Two-face didn't have much screen time, and really, he didn't need to be in the movie at all. It could have just been Harvey Dent and the Joker... and then in the sequel he'd become Two-face and maybe partner with one of the other smaller villains.

I actually think I liked Batman Begins better (and that's tied for one of my favorite movies)... it focuses more on the story and how he became Batman, instead of just fighting and weird stuff the whole time.
And I do think TDK was over-hyped... it's a good movie but it's not the greatest movie ever made, and it's kinda funny how SO many people went to see it, and how it did so well. I know Heath Ledger died but why does that make it the best movie of the summer?

Dark Knight IS really long. However, I don't really have a problem with it because I enjoy every minute of it. Or, at least, the few bits that aren't as interesting are part of the plot, so ya have to have them. As for the Two-Face/Joker thing, I personally felt they did a great job of making a Batman movie with 2 villains. Much better than, say, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Though Batman Forever had some good points. Anyway, I don't think it would have worked well without Two-Face actually playing a role, since the whole film was building up to Two-Face/Harvey's fall from Grace. What will upset me is if the next film declared the character deceased. They pretty much left that open, despite what some people will tell you. They even referred to it being Harvey's reputation that was dead, not Harvey himself. Yeah, there was a ceremony for the public, but that doesn't really mean anything. I think the next film should have Two-Face at least a little bit (never liked him enough to want him to carry a whole film), but I will be ticked if they declare him dead. Two-Face's criminal career should be more than a day long.

Anyways, LOVED "Batman Begins", but I still think I gotta give Dark Knight the bigger love. Both are faves of mine though. I don't consider Dark Knight the greatest movie ever made, either, but I definitely consider it one of the greats and I am glad it did so well, largely because it gave a new respect (I think) to comic-book based movies among the general public. And, again, I like that it wasn't an origin story, though I still think comic franchises should start with origin stories, and they really should have started the Superman franchise from scratch while we're on the subject (or carried Smallville to the big screen). Was Dark Knight the best movie of the summer? I'd have to see a list of all the movies of the summer to refresh my memory, but for me it's a safe bet to say yes, and that's coming from a major Indiana Jones fanatic (which is not to say that I didn't like the latest Indy movie).

brownie wrote:

Lazario wrote:14.

Ohhhh, definitely overrated. It won an Oscar? Come on now.

Ugh. What was it up against? This film is just too weird for me. Then again, I feel the same way about Polar Express. So, I guess that'd be another overrated one from me. Or my first if no one else has stated it before. Also, probably any movies with Tom Cruise (except Interview With the Vampire), though I could be forgetting one that I really liked.

DarthPrime wrote:I'll agree with that one. I honestly could not finish watching it. I tried to a few times, and each time I turned it off.

I find that's a problem with many people. No dissing on the great <i>Moulin Rouge!</i> until you have at least watched it once all the way through.

Also, I didn't realize it was popular enough to merit overrated status. I guess maybe because the fans of it are (rightly so) diehard?

Happy Feet... UGH... Stupid movies about talking animals!

I saw the previews and immediately thought it looked incredibly stupid. I've never seen it FOR that reason, but I'll second you on it being overrated anyway

(Though hey, I thought Kung Fu Panda looked stupid, and everyone keeps telling me I should see it because it's actually good)

I'd have to see a list of all the movies of the summer to refresh my memory, but for me it's a safe bet to say yes, and that's coming from a major Indiana Jones fanatic (which is not to say that I didn't like the latest Indy movie).

Hey, I liked the newest Indiana Jones too! I actually bought the 2-disc DVD set when it first came out. It wasn't as bad as some people said... though the original series was a lot better. Kinda like Star Wars: I like the new trilogy, but the old one's better...

drfsupercenter wrote: Hey, I liked the newest Indiana Jones too! I actually bought the 2-disc DVD set when it first came out. It wasn't as bad as some people said... though the original series was a lot better. Kinda like Star Wars: I like the new trilogy, but the old one's better...

I thought it was as good as Temple of Doom, and therefore a nice addition to the series. I kinda see Temple as the "kids' favorite" and now you can nicely divide the Indy movies into two pairs, the (sorta) more serious/realistic/adult/epic adventures and the more legendary/comic booky/youth appealing adventures (if I wanted to sit here longer, I'm sure I could come up with better adjectives). People complained so hard about stuff like the "nuking the fridge" scene in Crystal Skull and made such a big deal about an Indy movie having aliens in it. They seem to forget that the Indy films were initially inspired, like Star Wars, by old movie serials that were usually pretty cheesy, in the best way of course. And I thought it was clever the way Lucas changed his plan to make it about an alien invasion into a film about interdimensional beings and tying it in with the theories about visitors in through and all, keeping it about Indy's research into the past and the occult, all thanks to Spielberg letting Lucas know he thought Indy vs. alien invaders would be a bad idea. I can't say I'm comfortable with CGI in an Indy film, but other than that, the only real complaint I had was that Marion looked older than Indy in some scenes, ha, and that's just natural but still hard to buy Indy getting all goofy over her, but it was cute anyway. I liked the way it started out talking about loss and yet Indy ends up with a wife and kid at the end, and overall found it to be a very enjoyable film. Though, I admit that the first viewing I gave it left me not sure how I felt about it (I mean, I'm a hardcore Indy fan). I had to view it again to really love it.

I agree on Happy Feet, it feels like a long movie to me mostly because it's also rather boring.

Dark Knight is just plain over-hyped. Is it good? Yes so shut up and stop talking about it already we get the picture that it's good I mean really, this one person kept going on and on to me about how amazing and life changing it was, so I asked "did you get a job yet?" "no" so I replied "then it's not life changing"

I also agree with the Men In Black movie, I used to really like it when it was new and I was younger but now you'd have to bind and gag me to make me sit through it.

I'll be back later with more

I LOVE movies, but i always roll my eyes when someone says a movie is "life changing", ha. I guess some movies can be for some people. Don't really see how the Dark Knight would be one of those movies though, ha, though I understand getting psyched about a movie so much that you want to talk about it all the time.

Anyway, I always felt Men and Black was overrated. When I heard a Men in Black movie was being made, I definitely wasn't looking for a comedy, ha. But as for Happy Feet, I wanted to kill all those penguins! They were all jerks, except for the main one and Robin Williams' crew. And while I LOVED him in Aladdin and Popeye, and probably a few other films, I found Robin's accent humor sooooooo irritating.

slave2moonlight wrote:Ugh. What was it up against?

Cars and Monster House. I mean, yeah, Cars isn't Pixar's best film, but in no way is it worse than Happy Feet. I think the Academy was just excited to give someone other than Pixar an Oscar.

Noooooo! Why all this The Matrix hate!?

No, seriously ... don't you think The Matrix (and its sequels) is actually an action film that isn't missing the brains? Actually, it's not an action film. It's a dracller (drama/action/thriller) film! See, it has substance!

Let me guess. I haven't convinced anyone, have I?

Ah well.

For me, it'd be The Silence of the Lambs, which I saw for the first time a few days ago. The best thing in it is Anthony Hopkins' chilling performance. However, not even Anthony Hopkins can make up for an uninspired story which (not very helpfully) is told in a very confusing manner. Musical score is far from spellbinding.

Oh, and Jodie Foster please SPEAK UP!

How the hell am I supposed to know what's happening if I can't understand a word you're saying!? I was entirely lost for the first 30 minutes of the film, thanks to Foster's indiscernible mumbling.

And this film beat Beauty and the Beast for the Best Picture Oscar? What were the Academy members thinking!? I don't give a sh*t if BatB is much simpler (a point some UD members raised when debating which film should have won the Oscar). At least that film is simple but perfectly executed.

Gah.

There, I ranted. Happy, Flanger?

brownie wrote:

slave2moonlight wrote:Ugh. What was it up against?

Cars and Monster House. I mean, yeah, Cars isn't Pixar's best film, but in no way is it worse than Happy Feet. I think the Academy was just excited to give someone other than Pixar an Oscar.

I actually enjoyed Monster House better than the other two. Cars may be more "Oscar Worthy" though, but in terms of just being the most fun to watch, I'd go with Monster House. Need to buy it still though.

Julian Carter wrote: There, I ranted. Happy, Flanger?

Actually, the Matrix is sci-fi. I liked the first one, but it WAS overrated. I didn't even ever get inspired enough to see the sequels, and I love seeing sequels. I was hearing they were weak though.

And I liked Silence of the Lambs pretty well, but it IS mainly Hopkins who makes it good. I'm totally with you that Beauty and the Beast should have one and is a perfectly executed film.

Julian Carter wrote:Noooooo! Why all this The Matrix hate!?

No, seriously ... don't you think The Matrix (and its sequels) is actually an action film that isn't missing the brains? Actually, it's not an action film. It's a dracller (drama/action/thriller) film! See, it has substance!

Let me guess. I haven't convinced anyone, have I?

There, I ranted. Happy, Flanger?

Yes I'm happy.

I don't care what the hell The Matrix tries to be, it fails at whatever it's doing because it forces itself to appeal to the lowest common denominator by putting the loud, dull action scenes above the explaining of the concepts of the universe the movie takes place in or being simplistic in a way that encourages thinking. It's all effects and trying to impress the popcorn munching crowd to the point where the attempts at higher thinking come off as a poor excuse for sounding intelligent. The ending is also a huge slap on the face to anyone with a brain in them. The drama is hollow as you don't acre for who lives or who dies, the thrills are missing in all the CGI effects and the action is only OK at best. Road House may not be anything more than an action flick but at least it does not pretend to be something it's not like a Philosophy 101 class (even if it's main character is a Philosophy major from NYU).

For me it fails at being a simple entertaining action film, it fails at being a surreal trip through the human imagination and it fails because it has Keanu Reeves, who simply can't act to save his life (and I have met many people who agree with me on that point).

You're entitled to your opinion of course.

slave4moonlight wrote:I'm totally with you that Beauty and the Beast should have won and is a perfectly executed film.

Ironically, I actually think Disney surpassed Beauty with leaps and bounds (hence they improved upon even their best work) with films like The Lion King or Hunchback. Still, I guess BatB can still be considered a masterpiece because it's pretty much the best a film adaptation of the original fairy tale can be. The Silence of the Lambs is undoubtedly much more sophisticated, but for its simplicity BatB works as it should. Lambs doesn't (imo). Moreover, simplicity is not necessarily a setback. Had the filmmakers oversaturated Beauty's storyline with more subplots or subtle undertones, it may have destroyed the effortless elegance of the film. Such approaches were, however, used very successfully in The Lion King.

So, I wonder, why did UDers think that Beauty and the Beast should not have won the Oscar because it was "too simple" in comparison to Lambs?

Flangy wrote:You're entitled to your opinion of course.

Well, after I got through your murderous writing I was too mentally exhausted to even muster the energy to write an intelligent retort, so I'll just have to settle for:

"The Matrix ROX!!!! It is not dumb and stupid!!! You're WRONG!!! I DON'T FEel like explaining butt you're wrong!!!!! Keanu rocks!!!!! Everything rox!!!"

There, one unintelligent response delivered on schedule.

I'm just kidding with you Flangy. I don't think I've spoken directly to you for a long time, so it's good to ... argue, lol. I haven't spoken to a lot of UDers for a long time, come to think of it. I'm starting to feel detached from the forum. In fact I think I've pretty much become a lurker.