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Not to mention that the original Hunchback ending was very depressing and tragic, so if Ariel'sPrince hated the Disney version he'll detest the original story...

Skellington or Sparrow wrote:

Escapay wrote:Um...I know it shouldn't be a big deal to some but...

It's RODGERS and Hammerstein. Not Rogers and Hammerstein.

Oops. Haha. Well, spelling's not always my thing.

Don't worry, you weren't the only one.

pap64 wrote:Not to mention that the original Hunchback ending was very depressing and tragic, so if Ariel'sPrince hated the Disney version he'll detest the original story...

True. But I doubt the original book is something most people are willing to pick up and read.

albert

Escapay wrote: True. But I doubt the original book is something most people are willing to pick up and read.

albert

Which is why most people suck.

Well, Ariel'sprince. If you want a happy ending in the Hunchback, you should see the sequel. the animation is Terrible, but it is happier that the original. By the way, doesn't Esmeralda die in the musical?

supertalies wrote:By the way, doesn't Esmeralda die in the musical?

Yes she does. After being rescued from the stake, she dies in the bell tower.

You're right Widdi, they'll probably want to release THOND on DVD again, and hopefully on Bluray as well. BOO YAA !

Widdi wrote:

supertalies wrote:By the way, doesn't Esmeralda die in the musical?

Yes she does. After being rescued from the stake, she dies in the bell tower.

Really? I didn't know that... Kewl.


Anyway, I never got around to posting my opinons, so here they are:

I've been waiting forever for Hunchback to come to Broadway, and now it's finally happening. Now it just a matter of whether I'll see it or not.

And really, I always thought the three most obvious Disney movies to be put on Broadway were Beauty and the Beast, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Mary Poppins. TLM really never should have been made into a musical, and whilst TLK is supposed to be considered very good, when I watch the actual film, it doesn't really scream "PUT ME ON BROADWAY!"

Peter and the Starcatchers...
I've read the book, didn't like the fact that Disney deemed it "the official prequel" because they never specified to what is a prequel to. J.M. Barrie's Peter Pan, Walt Disney's Peter Pan, or both? But it could be interesting.

BTW anybody remember this thread?:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... n+broadway

Start writing down what I say people... I'm physic...

UmbrellaFish wrote:Start writing down what I say people... I'm physic...

I'm pretty sure there's elements of all of us that can be attributed to physics.

But it's nice to know that you are psychic.

albert

Escapay wrote:
But it's nice to know that you are psychic.

albert

Ah, I used Google and everything!

I knew that was gonna happen people... Yeah... yep! I knew...

Widdi wrote:

supertalies wrote:By the way, doesn't Esmeralda die in the musical?

Yes she does. After being rescued from the stake, she dies in the bell tower.

In the Disney version? Talk about a drastic difference from the film (which it's ultimately supposed to be based on).

I'm actually interested to see Hunchback as a musical. I've heard many people praise the German version (never listened to it myself, as I find it useless to listen to a language I can't understand--words are half the song), so I'd like to see/hear it.

UmbrellaFish wrote: TLM really never should have been made into a musical

Simply because the musical that we received is terrible does not mean the film should never have went to Broadway. The movie had plenty of potential, as all the characters in the original film sing, it's a classic story (sacrifice, Faustian bargain, near R&J-like feud, etc) and the film focuses heavily on Ariel's voice/song. And I also don't understand how, say, something like Beauty and the Beast (which is just as one-dimensional and "lacking of potential") would deserve a Broadway show moreso. I could understand if you were only comparing it to Hunchback and Mary Poppins, but, to me, there's very little difference between TLM and B&tB (in general terms/potential)

TLM is NOT terrible ! Oh dear, I didnt realise there was so much hate towards it .... It's being very highly anticipated over here, for when it will eventually come to the West End.

Has Disney ever tried to adapt another Fairy Tale and it didnt come to pass ? Like everyone has been saying on here, Aladdin has been spoken of for a while ... whatever happened to it ? Is it because the DVD wasnt very well recieved or something ?

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:TLM is NOT terrible ! Oh dear, I didnt realise there was so much hate towards it .... It's being very highly anticipated over here, for when it will eventually come to the West End.

Has Disney ever tried to adapt another Fairy Tale and it didnt come to pass ? Like everyone has been saying on here, Aladdin has been spoken of for a while ... whatever happened to it ? Is it because the DVD wasnt very well recieved or something ?

Putting on a Broadway show is a very big thing to do. It's very expensive, risky, even more expensive, time consuming, and exceptionally risky. I'm sure the people involved have a billion ideas, but they have to come to one every few years to work on. I'm sure Aladdin is in consideration, for me it's one of the obvious choices, but maybe it's not what everyone on board wants to do at the moment.

I'm not really even sure if DVD sales has anything to do with which show they decide to do, it's probably more about artistic value and which show feels right at the time. I personally have day-dreamed about A Goofy Movie becoming one of Disney's broadway musicals.

I hope Hunchback will come to Holland too. I've seen a nice amateur performance once in English; but of course when 'our' Joop van de Ende will put it in Dutch theatres it will be translated into Dutch - which I do not like so much- but the show sure will look spectacular.

I've seen the theatrical version of Tarzan and the story was changed and extended with regard to Disney's movie version. The character Tantor is missing (apparently to difficult to make an actor play for elephant ) and Jane is not attacked by a horde of baboons but by a gigantic spider.

By the way, I've read the original novel by Victor Hugo before the Disney version came out. I like both novel and the movie but I actually prefer the Disney ending. I was mad when Esmeralda got hanged!

I'm really excited about the Hunchback musical. Hopefully, they won't change the ending of the German version. About the others i don't really care (at least not yet).
However, i don't think the Peter Pan prequel is a good idea. Maybe if it was adapted for the theatre or the Cruise Line (like Aladdin or Cinderella) but for Broadway? I don't know. It just feels too much Peter Pan all the time. We have the original, the sequel, the live-action one (though not Disney), the Platinum Edition, the Fairies books and franchise, the Special Edition of the sequel and now Tinkerbell. There are plenty other fairy tales that are suitable to be adapted for the stage or even Broadway. I'm kinda fed up with all things Peter Pan right now.

JiminyCrick91 wrote:Also sluttish is not a word

I use "sluttish" as a word, too...it's okay, Ariel'sPrince!

And, there was the Lesley Ann Warren version of R&H's Cinderella, too.

It's definitely exciing that THoND will be coming to Broadway! I know that a lot of people rave about how beautiful the German version is- I'd definitely want to see it on Broadway (but I want to see all the Disney Broadway shows...).

Disney's Divinity wrote:I'm actually interested to see Hunchback as a musical. I've heard many people praise the German version (never listened to it myself, as I find it useless to listen to a language I can't understand--words are half the song), so I'd like to see/hear it.

My thoughts exactly!!!

There have been rumors for a while about a stage version of Newsies- just a few weeks ago, I read an article that apparently had the Newsies reference edited out before I read the article, but I wonder if Disney would seriously consider putting Newsies on the stage. It's my all-time favorite Disney live-action film, and I would LOVE to see it on stage!!!

Disney Duster wrote:As for Enchanted...Sprince, remember when I talked about Giselle going to New York as just traveling through time to the modern day? They could do that for the musical. That's how the movie should have been and I will only accept it thinking of it that way.

I don't understand how what you wrote is different from the film...?

escapay wrote:True. But I doubt the original book is something most people are willing to pick up and read.

It's actually a really, really good (but sad!) book! It's definitely worth a read.

I don't know how I feel about Peter and the Starcatchers coming to Broadway...I haven't read the book, but it isn't the real, original, Disney Peter Pan...I mean, sure, it's Disney, but isn't putting that on Broadway a bit like putting Ariel's Beginning on Broadway? Nothing against AB- I haven't seen it yet, but I do want to, but it's like putting an animated prequel on stage versus the original.

Thanks so much for posting this news! Hunchback is very exciting. I've listened to the soundtrack (german version) and it brings a whole new life to this musical! The best film->broadway adaptation (musically) i've ever heard! keep an open mind everyone. and if you havent seen the movie in a while, go back and watch it! it's very dark for disney animated features, but each frame of this movie is like a painting and the score is just haunting!

Simply because the musical that we received is terrible does not mean the film should never have went to Broadway. The movie had plenty of potential, as all the characters in the original film sing, it's a classic story (sacrifice, Faustian bargain, near R&J-like feud, etc) and the film focuses heavily on Ariel's voice/song. And I also don't understand how, say, something like Beauty and the Beast (which is just as one-dimensional and "lacking of potential") would deserve a Broadway show moreso. I could understand if you were only comparing it to Hunchback and Mary Poppins, but, to me, there's very little difference between TLM and B&tB (in general terms/potential)

It has nothing to do with the fact that the musical isn't "up to snuff". I usually try to reserve my judgment of something before I've seen it, and since I haven't seen TLM on Broadway, I don't know whether it's terrible or fantastic. I may say that I don't think that it will be good or that I think that it will be great, but I don't say it definitely.

Actually, the minute I heard TLM was being put on Broadway I was shocked. As I was when I learned about Tarzan and TLK. These movies just don't scream to be made into musicals. TLM was extremely simplistic, that's one of it's major charms. BATB had more meat in the original film than did TLM. And I think they expanded TLM as far as it would go in the play.

But mainly, I was refering to the techincal difficulties. No more Vanessa, no more Ursula climax, no more "Ariel breaking the surface". But what do we get? A contest, a flood in the castle, and the last thing, I don't know. If things had been like that in the movie, my username would be UmbrellaMan (has an okay ring to it, really...). I realize some things would have to change, like "Ariel breaking the surface", but it's a shame that technical (and I suppose casting?) difficulties took away the climax and Vanessa. BATB on the other hand is a bit simplier in terms of special effects. I have heard that BATB used special effects during the transformation scenes, but they at least got to include them.

Also, this is probably just me. But I've always considered TLM a tale more about overcoming one stage in your life and entering a new one. Not about love. Kinda odd, isn't it? Even as a child I didn't pay attention to Prince Eric or the romance in the film. Just to the fun and her change from mermaid to human. (Heh, I almost wrote "and her change from mermaid to merman")

blackcauldron85 wrote:There have been rumors for a while about a stage version of Newsies- just a few weeks ago, I read an article that apparently had the Newsies reference edited out before I read the article, but I wonder if Disney would seriously consider putting Newsies on the stage. It's my all-time favorite Disney live-action film, and I would LOVE to see it on stage!!!

More than The Rocketeer?

UmbrellaFish wrote:But mainly, I was refering to the techincal difficulties. No more Vanessa, no more Ursula climax, no more "Ariel breaking the surface". But what do we get? A contest, a flood in the castle, and the last thing, I don't know. If things had been like that in the movie, my username would be UmbrellaMan (has an okay ring to it, really...). I realize some things would have to change, like "Ariel breaking the surface", but it's a shame that technical (and I suppose casting?) difficulties took away the climax and Vanessa. BATB on the other hand is a bit simplier in terms of special effects. I have heard that BATB used special effects during the transformation scenes, but they at least got to include them.

Personally, I wasn't surprised at all that they chose TLM or TLK, considering their popularity and potential money-making ability. TLM Musical, regardless of its actual theatrical value, will always be making money off of parents who take their little girls to see it (that's the major demographic they're counting on). And there's most likely a desire to overcome the "challenge" that each film presents as well. The animal kingdom and the underwater world provide so many [colorful] possibilities that could be wonderfully interpreted onstage. So, I'm not surprised that it was chosen and I still think it's very much along lines of B&tB (with much happening before "Poor Unfortunate Souls" and much happening after it that could fill a 2 Act play).

Also, this is probably just me. But I've always considered TLM a tale more about overcoming one stage in your life and entering a new one. Not about love. Kinda odd, isn't it? Even as a child I didn't pay attention to Prince Eric or the romance in the film. Just to the fun and her change from mermaid to human. (Heh, I almost wrote "and her change from mermaid to merman")

Well, it is really (which is why I consider Eric more of a figurehead for Ariel's interest in the land than an actual love interest), but its infused with classic elements that make it into more than that.


As far as Peter and the Starcatchers go, I really can't say. I think it's a strange choice, personally. But I can't really comment on the story itself, as I've never read it (and have no desire to do so).

sotiris2006 wrote:

blackcauldron85 wrote:There have been rumors for a while about a stage version of Newsies- just a few weeks ago, I read an article that apparently had the Newsies reference edited out before I read the article, but I wonder if Disney would seriously consider putting Newsies on the stage. It's my all-time favorite Disney live-action film, and I would LOVE to see it on stage!!!

More than The Rocketeer?

That would be my all-time favorite Disney live-action film.

Come to think of it, it'd be pretty awesome (and a bit weird) to see The Rocketeer: The Broadway Musical.

But I'm with Ames. I'd love to see Newsies get adapted for Broadway (I'm sure I read somewhere that it was in development, but that was years ago).

albert