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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:02 am
by PrincePhillipFan
Beast_enchantment wrote:Because I believe him to have been a very unpleasant man. A clever man but like so many people who grew up in the early 20th century he had some very offensive tendencies i.e racism, homophobia and even sexism in some cases. Still I commend him for the creation of Disney.
I understand you not liking Walt just because maybe you didn't like who he was as a person, but there a few things I think need correcting that contradict him being racist and sexist. Floyd Norman was one of the first African-American storymen/animators hired when he worked for the company on from Sleeping Beauty in the 1950s to Robin Hood in the 70s. Norman still writes columns today on his history of animation and has repeatedly expressed that Walt treated him equally as any other storyman at the studio. Also the fact that Walt was close friends with famous jazz trumpeter and singer Louis Armstrong, who performed at Dixieland At Disneyland nights every night at the park in the 1960s.

There's also Tyrus Wong, a Chinese American artist whom Walt personally picked to be head background designer for Bambi. Not to mention Harriet Burns and Leota Toombs (who were some of the first Imagineers for WED/WDI) and worked on any projects that a man could do, female animators Bianca Majolie and Sylvia Moberly-Holland who worked as animators on Fantasia, Bambi, and some of the features in the early 1940s. Not to mention the fact that the Sherman Bros are also Jewish and Walt treated them as family. So I think all of these rumors of Walt being racist, sexist, anti-semitic himself are bogus for the most part. There might be a few racial stereotypes in his early films, but that doesn't sometimes reflect how a person might treat others.

Wow, that turned out to be a long rant. I'm not trying to rant at you directly beast_enchantment. I just like to try and rectify many misconceptions some people have about Walt and what he was like from all the biographies I've read of him.

Anyway a secret I never shared before...there's two actually I can think of. Before I came out of the closet, in middle school I had at least three crushes on my other guy friends that I never mentioned to anybody before. Also, as you can probably tell from my new banner, I'm big into researching Greek mythology (especially Apollo since he was openly bisexual and had many male relationships, was the god of light, music, poetry, and healing, and was the most compassionate and loving of the gods in his relationships and music), but I also consider some of it my belief as well, along with a mixture or Christianity. I was always afraid of telling people that because I know many highly religious people at my school would just tell me I'm going to hell for liking to think my belief is a mixture of the two. :p

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:56 am
by carolinakid
That's a beautiful post, PPF! I've gotta a little crush on you myself now! :thumb:

jon

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:10 pm
by Flanger-Hanger
carolinakid wrote:That's a beautiful post, PPF! I've gotta a little crush on you myself now! :thumb:

jon
Back off, he's mine! Well, only because every single post he has made, I've agreed with him 100%. He likes My Fair Lady, Sleeping Beauty, The Haunted Mansion, Freakazoid and MST3K! And he's good looking to boot, what more could I want? :D (well, I haven't head his opinion on Bedknobs and Broomsticks or The Happiest Millionaire yet)

I mean...well...I guess my secret is out... :shock:

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:37 pm
by JiminyCrick91
Yes I have forum crushes too (boy and girl) but my secret is that sometimes even in the forums I wonder if I whould be missed. I think at times I'm annoying, unfunny and a thread killer. Not a happy secret but true every so often. :oops:


-Sky

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:48 pm
by Ariel'sprince
I killed Mufasa!.

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:24 pm
by PeterPanfan
Ooh, Tim has formed some kind of possy. :lol:

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:10 pm
by carolinakid
Flanger-Hanger wrote:
carolinakid wrote:That's a beautiful post, PPF! I've gotta a little crush on you myself now! :thumb:

jon
Back off, he's mine! Well, only because every single post he has made, I've agreed with him 100%. He likes My Fair Lady, Sleeping Beauty, The Haunted Mansion, Freakazoid and MST3K! And he's good looking to boot, what more could I want? :D (well, I haven't head his opinion on Bedknobs and Broomsticks or The Happiest Millionaire yet)

I mean...well...I guess my secret is out... :shock:
Flanger, you're too much! :lol: I'd bitch slap you if I could...with love! :D

jon

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:15 pm
by carolinakid
JiminyCrick91 wrote:Yes I have forum crushes too (boy and girl) but my secret is that sometimes even in the forums I wonder if I whould be missed. I think at times I'm annoying, unfunny and a thread killer. Not a happy secret but true every so often. :oops:


-Sky
Sky, you're none of those things. Keep posting, sweetie! :wink:

jon

Re: Share a Secret

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:50 pm
by Disney Duster
Vermin Friends: *hugs*

Yea now I have another secret. I'm jealous. Of what? It's in a few posts above this one now.

But don't worry, I'm fine.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:09 am
by blackcauldron85
Awww, do I sense some forum love? I think that in a community so close as this one is, it's hard not to form some crushes. I've kind of had a forum crush, I guess, in a way. It's just inevitable here, I think.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:24 am
by xxhplinkxx
You bunch of bed-hoppers! :P

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:36 am
by blackcauldron85
xxhplinkxx wrote:You bunch of bed-hoppers! :P
:lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:47 pm
by Isidour
What can be said...

Disney is luuuuuv :lol:

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:42 pm
by Widdi
My secret is...

I've never had a forum crush... :lol:

Actually here's one... I'm a 20 year old guy who still sucks his thumb...

*hangs head in shame*

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:53 pm
by jeremy88
I've never really had a forum crush either...I'm usually the forum crushee lol..juusst kiiiddddinnng heh. Though I might have a slight thing for someone here ;)

Anyways, I realized I have a secret that I haven't told ANYONE! SO you all are the lucky luckies that get to know first! :D

I actually really miss my ex, even though I was the one to end it, and though I still talk to them sometimes definitely not as much as I use to, I never let them know how I still feel...but the thought of them with someone else and not me just rains on my sunshine...

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:03 am
by Chernabog_Rocks
xxhplinkxx wrote:You bunch of bed-hoppers! :P
*Hops into xxhplinkxx's bed while wearing a Prince Eric costume*

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:18 am
by jeremy88
Chernabog_Rocks wrote: *Hops into xxhplinkxx's bed while wearing a Prince Eric costume*
Oh hecks no, I had that idea first! Right Chris??? :P

except for the jumping in your bed part lol.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:49 am
by Chernabog_Rocks
jeremy88 wrote:
Chernabog_Rocks wrote: *Hops into xxhplinkxx's bed while wearing a Prince Eric costume*
Oh hecks no, I had that idea first! Right Chris??? :P

except for the jumping in your bed part lol.
Did you? Must have missed it, I'm sure there's room for one more if you want to hop in too ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:39 am
by xxhplinkxx
Whoa, where did this come from?! Looks like Tim and I are gonna have to run away together to escape all you crazy stalkers! :p

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:02 pm
by jeremy88
:lol: me stalk you Chris? Keep dreaming lol :wink: haha and I think I will have to pass on the invite Chernabog hehe.